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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:31 PM Mar 2014

Safeway sold for $9 billion, merges with Albertsons

PLEASANTON -- Safeway and Albertsons announced on Thursday that the two supermarket chains will merge to create a massive nationwide grocery network that both companies hope will help them compete in a market they have been steadily losing to big-box retailers, convenience stores and niche grocers.

The merger comes as part of a $9 billion deal with Cerberus Capital Management, the New York private equity firm that owns Albertsons, and by the end of this year, will also own Safeway. Combined, the two supermarket companies will have about 2,400 stores, almost double the size of Safeway today, and just a slightly smaller footprint than rival Kroger's 2,641 stores. The deal marks ones of the largest supermarket buyouts and promises to further transform an industry that has been upended by an onslaught of competition.

Executives said on a call with media on Thursday that the additional stores and expanded products allow them to give consumers the choice they have come to expect in the modern grocery business.

"They way people have shopped for groceries has fundamentally changed," said Albertons Chief Executive Officer Bob Miller, who will become executive chairman of the new supermarket conglomerate. "As our customers need change, we have to adapt (to) a world where they have more options than ever."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25289725/safeway-cerberus-reach-preliminary-deal-sell

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Safeway sold for $9 billion, merges with Albertsons (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2014 OP
Hey Albertson's CEO, what your customers need is decent food at an affordable price, not "change". uppityperson Mar 2014 #1
My heart bleeds NV Whino Mar 2014 #2
Also Walmart and Kroger jmowreader Mar 2014 #21
Walmart and now Target stores have large food sections. nt NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #23
WalMart Stinky The Clown Mar 2014 #24
I'm sure this will go well......not GP6971 Mar 2014 #3
I hadn't heard about the Supervalu/Albertson's merger davidpdx Mar 2014 #30
Won't work if they keep selling shit at dear prices. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #4
I wonder what is going to happen in markets Jenoch Mar 2014 #5
Good point davidpdx Mar 2014 #31
Good luck, Albertsons workers Proud Public Servant Mar 2014 #6
This cannot end well abbeyco Mar 2014 #7
Wow. You were treated poorly in the interview process? Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #10
Traitor Joes firing looooong term older employees, cutting health care risks and payouts. reddread Mar 2014 #13
I didn't apply at TJs but had friends who did abbeyco Mar 2014 #26
Safeway should go out of business The Second Stone Mar 2014 #8
I have noticed that the long line thing flying rabbit Mar 2014 #11
No Kidding! Nolimit Mar 2014 #16
They seem to rely on the self check out model at the ones I go to. flying rabbit Mar 2014 #19
This one doesn't even have self-checkout. Nolimit Mar 2014 #22
I didn't think that one did flying rabbit Mar 2014 #25
I don't wait long in Safeway Mosby Mar 2014 #18
In my hometown, initially Safeway was the go-to store for years. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #33
Albertson's is still in Florida demwing Mar 2014 #38
Didn't know that. Thought they had left totally. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #39
I've only been in a Safeway twice in my life LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #9
after Safeway killed Dominick's Paulie Mar 2014 #12
Well, it's now no wonder why Safeway closed all the Dominick's locations kysrsoze Mar 2014 #28
We Never Learn Armstead Mar 2014 #14
Kudos to you for seeing the key issue.. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #15
Thanks. Unfortunately it's been a key issue in many sectors for decades Armstead Mar 2014 #17
I think the consolidation is just going to be used to further cut employee benefits davidpdx Mar 2014 #29
...as well as putting the screws to their customers and suplliers Armstead Mar 2014 #34
Ah, very true davidpdx Mar 2014 #40
Or they could just stop making people give personal info to get 'sale' prices Matariki Mar 2014 #20
I don't see how this will give consumers more choice. subterranean Mar 2014 #27
this could be a good thing Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #32
It's never a good thing to eliminate competition that way Armstead Mar 2014 #35
Didn't we used to have anti-trust laws in this country? surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #36
Safeway enid602 Mar 2014 #37

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Hey Albertson's CEO, what your customers need is decent food at an affordable price, not "change".
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:33 PM
Mar 2014

So, less competition will bring more "options" and choices? Huh.

Call me a cynic.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
2. My heart bleeds
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:42 PM
Mar 2014
help them compete in a market they have been steadily losing to big-box retailers, convenience stores and niche grocers.

Translate that as Costco, Trader Joes and local markets.

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
24. WalMart
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:25 AM
Mar 2014

WalMart's prices are dramatically lower than Safeway's. What's even worse, their selection is better. The giant down side is the universal "I hate my job" attitude of their employees.

GP6971

(31,158 posts)
3. I'm sure this will go well......not
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:49 PM
Mar 2014

Supervalu bought Albertsons and 6 years later sold them off. What I heard was that there were a lot of distribution problems.....trying to merge different systems. The brick and mortar stores weren't the issue....it was distribution followed by private label issues.

Bottom line is I think this sucks.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I hadn't heard about the Supervalu/Albertson's merger
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:53 AM
Mar 2014

I've been outside the US for the last 10 years. I find studying the retail industry interesting having worked in it for so long before coming here.

I can see how merging systems would be a headache. When they put together these mergers, I think too often they come up with numbers that are wildly optimistic and then the problems start and that's where things fall apart.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
4. Won't work if they keep selling shit at dear prices.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:56 PM
Mar 2014

Consumers are looking for nutritious food at fair prices, a mega-Safeway/Albertson doesn't offer that and will continue to fail.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
5. I wonder what is going to happen in markets
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:07 PM
Mar 2014

where Safeway and Albertson's are across the street from one another? I imagine underperforming stores will either be sold or closed.

The only time I have ever shopped at these stores has been when visiting my father in Arizona. The grocery business there seems to be quite competitive.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. Good point
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:55 AM
Mar 2014

I know in Oregon there are a lot of locations that are fairly close to each other. Think of how many stores they are going to close. That is a whole bunch of people that are going to get pick slips. Another blow to the economy.

abbeyco

(1,555 posts)
7. This cannot end well
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:15 PM
Mar 2014

in Denver, Safeway is about as high on prices as Albertson's, but lower in service - in my opinion. I hate Safeway and only shop Albertson's for their AWESOME deli fried chicken, kick-ass meat counter and great seafood deals during the holidays.

Not sure how I feel about this merger but it won't drive me to Trader Joe's who recently came to Denver and was totally shitty and nasty in their hiring for 3 new stores; I won't shop 'em ever again.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
10. Wow. You were treated poorly in the interview process?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:23 PM
Mar 2014

They set it up as impromptu interviews at the Hilton Garden Inn - found the same lady who interviewed my wife in the TJ store the other day, and she was very rude too.

But the food is good and close to my house. Yeah, we've got PARKING issues over there....

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
13. Traitor Joes firing looooong term older employees, cutting health care risks and payouts.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:05 PM
Mar 2014

scum. I hope all of their employees know what they are working for.
I feel sorry for them.
Know who and what you are giving your money and support to.

abbeyco

(1,555 posts)
26. I didn't apply at TJs but had friends who did
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:48 AM
Mar 2014

And they weren't given the time of day - even with previous grocery retail experience. While I've enjoyed shopping TJs in CA, I'm done with 'em - if they can't treat people right, they don't deserve my dollar. I'll fill my shopping basket at Sprouts and upcoming summer farmer's markets and be happy that I have choices...and hopefully get deli fried chicken at Albertsons!

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
8. Safeway should go out of business
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:20 PM
Mar 2014

for the really poor customer service they have in making sure customers stand in long lines. Every time I go into my local Safeway the lines are irritatingly long, not the same at Raley's.

Nolimit

(142 posts)
16. No Kidding!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:19 PM
Mar 2014

The Safeway by the Lloyd Center has eight checkout stands but I almost never see them fill half of them, even when it's busy.

flying rabbit

(4,634 posts)
19. They seem to rely on the self check out model at the ones I go to.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:40 PM
Mar 2014

Which is okay if I have just a few items. But forget it if I have a lot of stuff. Plus the bags(plastic and paper) they have fall apart 56% easier than other chains. So I guess their policies lead to less big purchases on my part. Bean Counters.

Nolimit

(142 posts)
22. This one doesn't even have self-checkout.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:20 AM
Mar 2014

I sometimes just go to the in-store Starbucks to checkout if I have a just a few things. If they won't use it they should remove some of the stands and put something else in.

flying rabbit

(4,634 posts)
25. I didn't think that one did
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:28 AM
Mar 2014

I wasn't sure though. The only game in the area if you are on foot. There is a TJs and FM if you have a car. Bean Counters.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
33. In my hometown, initially Safeway was the go-to store for years.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 09:42 AM
Mar 2014

Then they opened up a Giant down the street which put Safeway to shame, and Giant became the go-to store for everyone in town.

Then Giant got bought up by some super-conglomeration, and since that the quality of Giant began to slowly decrease. Meanwhile, they did a really nice renovation of the Safeway and when it re-opened, it was far nicer than what Giant had become.

Not sure of what the perceived hierarchy in my hometown is now, since I'm no longer living there. But when Albertson's was in Florida (they've since pulled out), they typically had decent quality, but were still perceived as also-rans to Publix.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
39. Didn't know that. Thought they had left totally.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:49 PM
Mar 2014

They closed all the ones in South Florida, including by my house. And they closed the one by my parents' in Gainesville.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
12. after Safeway killed Dominick's
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:36 PM
Mar 2014

Now it merges with the owner of Jewel. After Jewel bought the top 11 Dominick's stores.

Fishy.

kysrsoze

(6,021 posts)
28. Well, it's now no wonder why Safeway closed all the Dominick's locations
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:49 AM
Mar 2014

... not that they didn't completely suck ass. I was glad Jewel and Mariano's took over... Whole Paycheck, not so much. Albertson's seems like a complete ripoff based on my recent trip to L.A., but strangely, Jewel is more or less reasonable for a lot of items. Much as I love Mariano's (who incidentally started Dominick's), Jewel stores are unionized so I make a point of shopping there... at least for now. Not sure how things will eventually look.

From my POV, how wasn't this some kind of gigantic insider trading scam? It's all WAY too incestuous.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. We Never Learn
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:09 PM
Mar 2014

The endless march to consolidate the economy into the grasp of a few mega corporations has been going on for over 30 years -- it's screwed up our economy and the very foundation of democracy.

And still we sit back and let it happen.
What a stupid fucking country.

And those who might say "this is necessary because of changing times" and the need to compete, I say Bullshit. That's the same line that has been used to justify every one of these goddamn mergers.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. Kudos to you for seeing the key issue..
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014

Which is that Cerebus owns 2 major grocery chains on the West Coast.

So what is it going to look like when 4 companies own 98% of the retail grocery market?
Will prices go up or down with less competition...mmmmm?

yeah, we know the answer, sadly.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
17. Thanks. Unfortunately it's been a key issue in many sectors for decades
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:33 PM
Mar 2014

But when it comes to this we're a nation of moronic zombies who don't get it....It should be a no-brainer for Democratic Liberals....Even grass-roots conservatives, who supposedly claim to be in favor of "free enterprise" should recognize the dangers of handing the entire economy over to a few mega corporations nd allowing them to kill off true competition.

But noooooo....

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I think the consolidation is just going to be used to further cut employee benefits
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 04:47 AM
Mar 2014

and make the work environment worse for them. It just wouldn't surprise me the least if they try to squash the unions.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. ...as well as putting the screws to their customers and suplliers
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

This whole ongoing mergermania is at the root of many of the economic and social problems we have today.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
40. Ah, very true
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 09:36 PM
Mar 2014

They will force suppliers to meet their needs by lowering costs, which will in turn hurt the suppliers and their employees. A very ugly situation.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
20. Or they could just stop making people give personal info to get 'sale' prices
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:42 PM
Mar 2014

That's why I stopped shopping at Safeway. To hell with those stupid 'club cards' that are just a means of getting (and no doubt selling) personal info.

I stopped shopping at Albertsons because of the big sign in the front of the store advertising that they drug test their employees. I don't shop at places that dehumanize their employees.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
27. I don't see how this will give consumers more choice.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:00 AM
Mar 2014

Both stores sell pretty much the same things, mostly processed junk.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
32. this could be a good thing
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 05:05 AM
Mar 2014

Safeway aka Vons offers high quality produce, deli, bakery and an excellent cheese section. Hopefully fhey will upgrade the Albertsons store and offer those services.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. It's never a good thing to eliminate competition that way
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:50 AM
Mar 2014

If a business wants to grow, why not do it honestly by improving their customer services on their own?

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
36. Didn't we used to have anti-trust laws in this country?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:03 PM
Mar 2014

Why have we given up on the concept?


I guess now I'll just have to wait for them to close all the Jewel stores too.

enid602

(8,616 posts)
37. Safeway
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:37 PM
Mar 2014

Albertson's was operating under bankruptcy protection when its stores were divied up between 3 suitors. Cerberus bought one of the groups of stores, and later bought up the other two groups, along with Shaws, Jewell and other stores. The result is that they have a rather large group of stores without a cohesive headquarters/back office operation. Safeway has that. Also, Safeway has very strong in-store brands, something the others lack. In 2013, 29% of Safeway's sales were in-store brands. The profit margin on in-store brands is huge, whereas grocers only make 5 cents on the dollar on national brands. This merger should give Safeway an additional distribution network for its in-store brands. Safeway's in-store labels are head and shoulders above Kroger, WalMart, Target, etc.

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