Candy Reefer

[pipoman]

Ok, just left Denver. My son had a menu from a recreational dispensary. There were 3 pages of candy and cookies...suckers, fancy truffles, gummies, cookies, chocolate bars, etc.. All indistinguishable from non weed products.

I am glad the movement away from prohibition is underway. I'm not so sure products so recognizable will or should be allowed to continue. It's just a matter of time before that goes bad, imo.

[rdharma]

1. Packaging is clearly marked.

How is this going to go bad?

[pipoman]

2. Try to tell a 2 year old that

1. They can't have a gummy bear
2. The gummy bear is medicine

parents will leave them out and kids will eat them.

[rdharma]

5. Try to tell your kids to stay out of the medicine cabinet.......

.... or liquor cabinet.

Parents should have enough sense to keep these secured and out of the reach of youngsters.

And what's going to happen if the two year old eats the gummy bear medicine? Huh?

[pnwmom]

41. Yes, it would be nice if all parents had sense. If the 2 year old eats those gummy bears,

depending on the does, she could end up in the hospital.

[rdharma]

42. Nonsense.

I'd suggest you do some research so you know what you're talking about.

[pnwmom]

43. You're the one who obviously needs to do some research.

Two students gave brownies to unsuspecting classmates and several ended up in the emergency room.

With medical marijuana it would depend on the dose. Some 2 year olds will be prescribed it -- but they wouldn't be eating multiple gummies, like candy.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/09/15797353-police-2-university-of-colorado-students-arrested-for-feeding-pot-brownies-to-classmates-professor?lite

On Friday morning, officers were called to the Hellems Arts and Sciences Building on the Boulder campus on a report of a professor who was complaining of dizziness and going in and out of consciousness.Paramedics transported her to a hospital.

Later that afternoon, a student's mother notified campus police that her daughter, who had been in the professor's class, was having an anxiety attack and was at a hospital. On Saturday, a second student told police that she felt like she was going to "black out" after the class. Her family took her to the hospital for evaluation.

An investigation revealed that the three hospitalized victims - and five other classmates - were suffering from the effects of marijuana, police said. The three hospitalized victims have since been released.

Watch US News crime videos on NBCNews.com

Cunningham and Essa were interviewed by police on Saturday evening and admitted that the brownies contained marijuana, police said.

[rdharma]

44. "The three hospitalized victims have since been released."

A stupid prank ....... like "spiking the punch bowl". The pranksters need some jail time.

But there is no such thing as a fatal marijuana overdose. Unlike kids getting into other medications, alcohol, or an unsecured firearm.

[pnwmom]

45. You know that's not what I said. I said they could end up in the emergency room,

not that they would die.

Or a small child could end up being admitted to the hospital, or even need treatment in an intensive care unit.

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691416&resultClick=3

Results The proportion of ingestion visits in patients younger than 12 years (age range, 8 months to 12 years)that were related to marijuana exposure increased after September 30, 2009, from 0 of 790 (0%; 95% CI, 0%-0.6%) to 14 of 588 (2.4%; 95% CI, 1.4%-4.0%) (P?<?.001). Nine patients had lethargy, 1 had ataxia, and 1 had respiratory insufficiency. Eight patients were admitted, 2 to the intensive care unit. Eight of the 14 cases involved medical marijuana, and 7 of these exposures were from food products.

Conclusions and Relevance We found a new appearance of unintentional marijuana ingestions by young children after modification of drug enforcement laws for marijuana possession in Colorado. The consequences of unintentional marijuana exposure in children should be part of the ongoing debate on legalizing marijuana.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130527231914.htm

Wang, a fellow at the Rocky Mountain Poison & Drug Center, said today's marijuana can be much stronger, and these products can contain higher concentrations of THC, the active ingredient in the drug. Some marijuana infused candy bars, for example, contain 300 milligrams of THC. Children who ingested the drug exhibited symptoms that included respiratory problems, extreme sleepiness, difficulty in walking and lethargy. Many underwent a battery of expensive tests to diagnose their problem because the history of exposure was not given, or medical professionals were not familiar with marijuana causing these symptoms.

"Before the marijuana boom these kinds of edibles were not mass-produced and the amount of THC ingested was somewhat limited, but now we are seeing much higher strength marijuana," Wang said. "The key to this is prevention through child resistant packaging."

With that in mind, Wang and Michael Kosnett, MD, MPH, a medical toxicologist and associate clinical professor at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, recently testified before a state advisory panel. According to Kosnett, they persuaded the panel to recommend child resistant packaging for marijuana edibles.

[0rganism]

48. about 20 yrs ago, i made some cookies...

...using the "white cookie of Marakesh" method (boil the mj in butter, freeze the butter, use the butter to make the cookies)

They were delicious and extremely potent.

I put the batch of cookies out for my housemates to try if they wished, clearly labeled with a warning that they were quite strong. As a regular inhaler of the mighty herb, I had determined that the maximum recommended dosage was "no more than 1" and was about to add that to the label. One of my housies who was about 50lbs heavier than me and didn't smoke weed had already decided to have TWO. He wandered into my room about an hour later with the shakes, dizzy, and itching, and then he vomited all over my doorway. Very embarrassing for him, very annoying for me.

I could easily see a toddler who gets into Mom's supply becoming very sick indeed.

[rdharma]

49. Vomited?

Very odd.... almost unbelievable.

The old "white cookie of Marakesh method", eh? Riiiight! Sounds like someone has been doing some googling!

[0rganism]

54. yes, and quite a mess to clean up too

i was in a good space at the time, kicking back with the tunes, and then he-who-shall-not-be-named stumbles in dazed and scratching and pukes all over my rug. An unpleasant turn of events to be sure. Earlier he'd made a point of talking up how he was having 2 cookies (! so excited), while the rest of us were warning him to try 1 first, wait and see, etc.

It's actually pretty difficult to control the dosage on certain consumables, esp. homemade. The high from the cookies is also somewhat different from that one gets from say, a bonghit; it takes longer to come on, lasts longer, and comes with some physical sensations that inhalation lacks. those were some damn stony cookies.

> Very odd.... almost unbelievable.

Not my job to convince you of my veracity, believe it if you like, or not if it suits your worldview to do so. The guy wasn't the most stable individual i'd ever met, to be sure, but he was in an adult body and he had a... seriously adverse reaction.

> The old "white cookie of Marakesh method", eh? Riiiight! Sounds like someone has been doing some googling!

that's what we called it, i don't know what it has to do with Marakesh and the cookies were more of a greenish tint than white. And we didn't have google back then either.

My point is, i've seen someone in his 20s get pretty sick from eating the cookies. i cleaned his vomit off my floor when i would much rather have been enjoying my buzz. a small child who eats too much of such goodies could conceivably be made sick to the point where, necessary or not, the parents rush the child to the hospital not knowing what's wrong. That is all.

[Jesus Malverde]

56. Death, psychosis, permanent disability, horrible disfigurement

With those common side effects no responsible doctor could do a study into the effects of such a toxin. There is a very good reason marijuana is schedule 1 it's deadly to mammals like a rodentacide.

Remember these children are consuming "Chronic" and "Dank", genetically modified super marijuana that has been exposed to ozone less sun cycles mutating into something very different from the harmless lids of pot the kids smoked in the sixties.

Some strains are said to glow in the dark.

Just say NO Dank You and Yaba Daba Don't



Remember Philip Seymour Hoffman died from drugs.

[rdharma]

57. Keep your MMJ edibles away from the kids......

... or this could happen!

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Not really........

[Warpy]

3. The kiddies will get hold of it

but don't worry, young kiddies don't really like the stuff. I had ample opportunity to watch hippie kids avoiding brownies they knew were loaded.

I'd advise anyone who has this stuff in a home with kiddies lock it up.

[The Straight Story]

8. So are guns and smokes (nt)

[rdharma]

9. Difference is that guns kill a lot of little kids. nt

[The Straight Story]

11. We were talking about the impact of labeling

Not the consequences of the product.

Do you think labeling is appropriate on one and not the other?

[rdharma]

12. Read post #1 . What did I say in that post? nt

[The Straight Story]

13. That kids can read packaging. So no need for labels on smokes, guns, etc

Since they are clearly labeled.

[rdharma]

14. Keep diggin'! nt

[OilemFirchen]

4. I dated her in 1978.

Nice kid, but with a rather manic, then halting conversational style.

[rdharma]

6. Suppose a little kid eats some edible MJ. What's going to happen?

Well?

[Gravitycollapse]

15. Potentially damaging psychological trauma.

[rdharma]

16. Are you serious? Really?

[Gravitycollapse]

17. I'm very, very serious. Children exposed to psychotropics can suffer serious trauma.

They do not possess the mental faculties necessary to maintain control under the influence of something like THC.

Potential side effects like paranoia will be magnified. At an age where children are still learning basic interaction with their surroundings, such a traumatic event can have long lasting or permanent consequences.

[dionysus]

19. oh lordy... perhaps.. until it wears off and they are no longer stoned....

[Gravitycollapse]

20. I'm not saying it's definitely going to ruin the child or even cause harm.

I am saying that it has a higher potential to do so than if we were talking about an adult. That's a risky situation and if better packaging prevents such things from happening, I'm all for it.

[rdharma]

21. What "better packaging" are you talking about?

And NOW you're saying it's "not definitely going to ruin a child or even cause harm" .........

[Gravitycollapse]

23. No need to get testy on this. If you read what I wrote again...

You will note that I never implied that exposure will definitely cause trauma. I said it has potential to cause trauma and that this trauma can be long lasting in consequence.

As far as the packaging goes, I'm talking about the potential need to better identify the food product as containing THC. I'm not talking about anything specific but addressing the possibility.

[rdharma]

24. Not getting "testy". I just suspect that you have never seen the packaging......

.... and are talking about something that you know nothing about.

[Gravitycollapse]

26. I've seen the packaging for pot brownies in AZ. Never seen anything in CO.

What does it look like?

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Legally sold edibles are required by law to have all the nutritional and ingredient

information you get on 'regular' foods plus information on the THC content. At least in every State in which I have experience. You will not find an awful lot of brownies.

[rdharma]

29. Clearly labeled.

I don't know the exact wording but I know that it had the following (in caps) .....CAUTION: NOT FOR CHILDREN

It had other cautionary and legal information like a .... not operating machinery cautionary warning etc.

[beveeheart]

37. Just checked the packaging of my medicinal

Chewy Ginger Snap Cookie. All ingredients are listed: flour, sugar, dark molasses, egg, crystallized ginger, baking soda, cinnamon, ground cloves, salt and Cannabis Infused Butter. The cookie (3 oz) contains 200mg active THC and is large enough to provide 8 average servings. The packaging itself is of a very durable plain white plastic that must be cut to open and then is closed with a self-closing feature which is not easy to reopen. There is a warning also: MEDICINAL PRODUCT KEEP OUT OF REACH FROM CHILDREN

The packaging for the same cookie but for recreational users has a child safety locking feature.

BTW, the cookie is delicious!

[dionysus]

35. i agree... it's not cool for anyone to get does unwillingly\unknowingly

[Liberal Veteran]

50. She's pretty damn coordinated to play that fast and good while stoned.

Where can I obtain some of this magic herb that allows me to do that?

[roody]

53. Sleep

[Niceguy1]

7. wine coolers look and taste

Like cool aide and the world hasn't come to an end.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. But that's ok, apparently, as are the cute TV ads for 'Red's Apple Ale' that show

a guy getting hit by and apple and saying 'I'll have a Red's' or showered in a rain of strawberries fro the very adult Strawberry Ale.

[Mariana]

38. Well that's totally different. Obviously.

[bravenak]

10. Dont give them to your kids.

I have a floor safe that I keep my vitamins and whatever jewelry, old photos, SS cards that I have into. If you can afford to smoke, you can afford to buy a safe and keep it locked up. Same goes with guns, I keep them locked up.

[dionysus]

18. it's better for you than smoking it. nt

[rdharma]

22. Unless you have diabetes........ but wait!

They also make edibles for diabetics.

[Ohio Joe]

25. Won't someone think of the children!

Go Cheeba Chews! My favorite

[rdharma]

31. My kids say they taste just like tootsie rolls.......

Just kidding folks! Gotta' have fun with the folks who are still traumatized from watching "Reefer Madness" in the '30s.

[Ohio Joe]

36. They really taste like a mix of tootsie roll and hash... A very strong ganja taste

For a much better taste experience and almost as potent a candy, go for Blue Kudu's. Those things are a wicked good chocolate flavor (and I'm not talking Nestle here... I mean good flavor) with almost no ganja taste.

[Exultant Democracy]

47. :)

[Bluenorthwest]

27. Indistinguishable save for heavy lables. And the smell, the taste. The cost. But other

than the labels, the fragrance, the flavor and the price they are identical in every way.
Do you have concerns for 'Red's Strawberry' and 'Midori Melon' or various Choco Flavored Alcoholic products?

[SomethingFishy]

30. Ate some "Swedish Fish" a couple hours ago...

Feeling fine. However if a kid put one in his mouth he would have spit it out. They don't taste very good.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. Hmmmmm. Always Refreshing.....

[eShirl]

34. oh! I thought you meant like the candy cigarettes we kids used to buy

sticks of cornstarch and sugar, with pink food coloring "fire" on one end

[pipoman]

39. No, like pot brownies only every kind of candy

I get it's fun and a novelty. .hell, kids might actually take their medicine if it was delivered like that.

[2pooped2pop]

40. keep it put up like your kids vitamins that look like candy

which would probably do more harm than the pot laced candy. But point is that we already have shit that looks like candy but is harmful out there and we just have to deal with it as parents.

[Earth_First]

46. It's no different than sweet-tasting prescriptions in suspension .

It is the responsibility of the parent or guardian to ensure that a child does not get a hold of bubblegum-flavored codeine.

Just as it's the same responsibility to ensure that a child is not consuming a prescription in a similarly delivered state.

[pipoman]

51. It really isn't going to be about what the parents should have done

We don't like guns that look like toys, toys that look like guns, cigarettes that look like toys, candy that looks like cigarettes, why do we not expect the inevitable bad press from this?

[tammywammy]

52. Toy guns and candy cigarettes were for children.

Pot candy is for adults, labeled as such and marketed to adults. There's a difference. These aren't being sold or marketed to children.

[reddread]

55. Dont let your son buy any.

[Autumn]

58. Why did you take your son to a recreational dispensary? Or is he old enough to

go on his own. If he's old enough to go into a recreational dispensary he's old enough to eat "stuff" that looks like candy.