The Five States Where Teachers Unions Are Illegal Have The Lowest Test Scores In America*

[Quixote1818]

This has probably been posted before but I am posing it again because it's a very important statistic.

http://www.businessinsider.com/states-where-teachers-unions-are-illegal-2011-2

[senseandsensibility]

1. I don't really have anything to add to this.

It should speak for itself, but "deformers" aren't really interested in test scores or (gasp) learning or facts. They are interested in making money from privatizing schools. Bashing teachers' unions is merely a means to this end.

[okaawhatever]

2. I added a little bit of the story to my post:

Here's an impossibly good statistic for union defenders, dug up by the Maureen Downey at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Only five states do not allow collective bargaining for educators, effectively banning teachers unions. Those states and their SAT/ACT rankings are as follows:

South Carolina – 50th

North Carolina – 49th

Georgia – 48th

Texas – 47th

Virginia – 44th

Meanwhile ground zero of the union battle, Wisconsin, is ranked 2nd in the country.

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/states-where-teachers-unions-are-illegal-2011-2#ixzz2vVus3CCj

[jwirr]

3. Wisconsin is enjoying the hold over from the good old days when they created their education

system under liberal rule.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

4. And a broader picture according to the latest 2007 statistics...

Virginia is the only one of the five to have climbed to the national average in test scores.

http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser/?year=2007&level=nation&mode=graph&state=0&submeasure=35

and of the 24 "Right-to-Work" Anti-union states,

13 of them fall BELOW the national average on standardized tests.

It seems as if Wisconsin's leadership is intent upon dumbing-down their educational system.

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. I'n SURE there's no causal relationship.

SURE of it.... do you hear !?!!!

It is mere CO-INK-A-DINKY.

[DemoTex]

6. South Carolina, my South Carolina .. Hail to Thee!

Or is it Hell to Thee?

[central scrutinizer]

14. here's proof

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[Enthusiast]

15. That clip is endlessly fascinating.

How can anyone be so uninformed?

[Rex]

7. Imagine that!

nt.

[ReRe]

8. K&R

EVeryone needs to read and rec this. Some great links in the thread, as well as the news in the OP. Thanks, Quixote1818!

[defacto7]

9. "The Lowest Test Scores In America"

On a scale that includes Europe and Asia, that's getting way way down there.

[Quixote1818]

10. Not to mention, Finland which has the highest test scores is 95% unionized.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/union-role-strong-in-finland-education-s536tlj-134546558.html

[DhhD]

11. Extremist Politicians setting themselves up for Privatized Education in their State working with

Jeb, all hiding under the ALEC Bush.

[kwassa]

12. Virginia also has some of the best public school systems in the nation ...

Virginia is like many different states in one. Some of those states are crazy.

NoVa, or Northern Virginia, the suburbs of DC, has excellent public schools, including Thomas Jefferson High School, often considered the best high school in the country, in Fairfax County. Of course, this area leans blue ... in this purple state where some of the red areas are very red. And, extremely backwards.

[KamaAina]

16. A beloved former DUer would vociferously disagree

she frequently refers to her local Cosby High School in central Va. as "the best high school in the country". Especially on bunco night.

[kwassa]

17. well, US News ranks them 23rd in VA.

and Jefferson has dropped to 4th nationally. Oh, the disgrace.

[Teacheral]

13. Teacher pay and unions

I retired from teaching 5th grade in NY 24 years ago; my salary was $55,000 thanks to union-negotiated contracts. We also determined class size, curriculum content, working conditions, etc.We had one of the best school districts in Westchester County. I live in SC; the schools here have none of the above, sad to say. Unions build strong schools and optimize learning.