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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:02 PM Mar 2014

CIA Lying About its Blackwater Contacts

After CIA director Leon Panetta revealed last summer that private contractor Blackwater was part of a covert CIA hit squad, tasked with summary killings and assassinations of al-Qaeda operatives, the CIA vowed to sever its contacts with the trigger-happy security firm. But did it do so? It doesn’t look like it. Last November, it became known that the company, (recently renamed Xe Services) remains part of a covert CIA program in Pakistan that includes planned assassinations and kidnappings of Taliban and al-Qaeda suspects. More recently, it was revealed that two of the seven Americans who died in the December 30 bomb attack at Forward Operating Base Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, were actually Blackwater employees subcontracted by the CIA.



The question is, why were these two Blackwater employees present during a sensitive security debriefing at the base, involving the entire leadership of the CIA team there, and even the Agency’s second-in-command in Afghanistan? As Nation magazine’s Jeremy Scahill correctly points out, “the fact that two Blackwater personnel were in such close proximity to the [...] suicide bomber shows how deeply enmeshed Blackwater remains in sensitive CIA operations, including those CIA officials claim it no longer participates in, such as intelligence gathering and briefings with valuable agency assets”.



This obvious realization has prompted Representative Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), leading member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, to decide to launch an investigation into the matter. That’s a noble idea. However, it overlooks the interview that Blackwater founder and CEO, Erik Prince’s gave to Vanity Fair last month, in which he revealed that he did in fact work as a CIA spy, carrying out secret missions with the help of a Blackwater hit squad. Everyone in the know realizes why the company’s usually super-secretive CEO suddenly came out, possibly causing a diplomatic rift between Washington and Berlin. It was basically a warning to the US government to leave him and his company alone. If they don’t, more revelations will follow.


http://intelnews.org/2010/01/08/01-357/

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CIA Lying About its Blackwater Contacts (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 OP
K&R. (nt) Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #1
CIA misled, lied to Congress several times since 2001, say lawmakers Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #5
Of course it is. Rec'd n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #2
CIA Lying? Savannahmann Mar 2014 #3
And they will lie about their lying that they lied jsr Mar 2014 #4
about who and what they lied MindMover Mar 2014 #8
I think Eric Prince is consulting with the Russians in Crimea. Lint Head Mar 2014 #6
Actually, Erik Prince is far more likely Buenaventura Mar 2014 #10
Mercenaries are outlawed by Article 47 of the Geneva Convention of 1949, but the US tclambert Mar 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2014 #9
Spooks blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #11
Speaking of Academi, "Have they landed in Ukraine"? asks MSM here BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #12
Propaganda is not necessarily a lie. zeemike Mar 2014 #13
Since the CIA budget is classified Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #14
The only certain fact is, that my government WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2014 #15

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. CIA misled, lied to Congress several times since 2001, say lawmakers
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:25 PM
Mar 2014

The two Democrats chairing the US House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have accused the CIA of misleading Congress on at least five instances during the last eight years. Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Representatives Jan Schakowsky (CA, photo) and Anna Eshoo (IL.) said an investigation by the Committee had uncovered several examples “where the committee actually has been lied to” by the CIA. The two chairwomen described the investigation findings as “symptom[s] of a larger disease” involving the routine practice of “incomplete and often misleading intelligence briefings”. However, commenting on Schakowsky and Eshoo’s allegations, Robert Litt, the senior attorney in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees the conduct of all 16 US intelligence agencies, said Congress was not adequately briefed on “a small number of intelligence activities”, but “has since been brought up to date”.


The Congresswomen’s allegations followed closely similar claims made last July by the House Intelligence Committee’s former chairperson, Silvestre Reyes (D-TX), who said he had evidence that the Committee had been routinely “misled [...] and [...] affirmatively lied to” by the CIA. The ongoing spat between the CIA and the House Intelligence Committee was sparked on June 24, 2009, when CIA director Leon Panetta informed the Committee of his decision to terminate a secret CIA project, which he said the Agency had kept hidden from Congress since 2001

http://intelnews.org/2009/10/29/01-289/

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
6. I think Eric Prince is consulting with the Russians in Crimea.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

For a militia to take over Crimean bases and react with military procedures while being incognito smacks of a black ops independent contractor. Eric Prince is the father of the modern private army. There is oil involved and Prince lives in the United Arab Emirates who has oil interests out the butt.

Not saying that Russia is 'not' capable of doing this along but I think the invasion was the result of powerful oil interest scared to death of the Ukraine problem. I don't think Putin gives a good rats ass about Crimea or invasion but he is willing to protect the power and monied pro Russian Mafia that supports him. The man temporarily installed to lead Crimea is steeped in the Russia mafia.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
7. Mercenaries are outlawed by Article 47 of the Geneva Convention of 1949, but the US
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:23 PM
Mar 2014

apparently didn't endorse that particular provision. So, technically not a war crime in America.

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. Propaganda is not necessarily a lie.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

so it could be true and propaganda.
But I have no doubt that the US is up to their neck in this.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
14. Since the CIA budget is classified
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:56 PM
Mar 2014

will we ever know how much money blackwater got for their murder for hire?

Congressional Oversight

Lets look at the word
oversight.


oversight
ˈəʊvəsʌɪt/Submit
noun
1.
an unintentional failure to notice or do something.
"he had simply missed Parsons out by an oversight"

synonyms: mistake, error, fault, failure, omission, lapse, inaccuracy, slip, blunder, faux pas, miscalculation; More
carelessness, inattention, neglect, negligence, forgetfulness, inadvertence, laxity, dereliction, neglectfulness





2.
the action of overseeing something.
"effective oversight of the financial reporting process"


funny how the word can mean two different things.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
15. The only certain fact is, that my government
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:12 PM
Mar 2014

will never tell us the truth about anything, if it doesn't want to.
That's not one of our rights.
But to be fair, no government will.

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