General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRon Paul Is Supporting Russia’s Illegal Occupation of Crimea
The libertarian godfather has become one of the biggest cheerleaders for the "referendum" that will lead to Russia's annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula.In the Crimea crisis, it seems Ron Paul thinks that libertarianism stops at waters edge.
The former Republican congressman and libertarian icon has long enjoyed a mixed reputation in the United States. While many admire Paul for his small government views on civil liberties, other shy away from a politician who has criticized the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and allowed a series of racist and conspiratorial news letters to be published under his own name.
However, the former congressman whose presidential bids in 2008 and 2012 helped elevate libertarians from a political afterthought to a key constituency in the Republican Party and whose son, Rand Paul is poised for a 2016 bid for the White House, has now started a new chapter of his career. He's defending the chauvinist and imperialist Russian regime of President Vladimir Putin.
Over the past several weeks, Paul has become one of the most vocal American supporters of Russias invasion and occupation of Crimea, a semi-autonomous region of Ukraine. In the aftermath of a revolution that drove out its ally in Kiev, Viktor Yanukovych, Moscow is attempting to annex the province by holding a referendum Sunday in hopes that it will provide a patina of legality to its blatantly illegal land grab. Paul, long a foe of military action and democracy promotion efforts overseas, has not been content to limit himself to criticisms of American policies in Eastern Europe. He has gone out of his way to legitimize and justify the actions of Putin.
Hes no angel but actually he has some law on his side, Paul said earlier this week on the Fox Business Network. They have contracts and agreements and treaties for a naval base there and the permission to go about that area. While Russia has leased its naval base from the Ukrainian government in the Crimean port city of Sevastopol until 2042, the terms of that agreement explicitly prohibit Russian forces from leaving their barracks, never mind overrunning and occupying government buildings, violating Ukraines airspace, and taking over border posts.
more
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/16/ron-paul-is-supporting-russia-s-illegal-occupation-of-crimea.html
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Especially now, with an unelected government who don't like Russian-language speakers in charge in Kiev.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Holding this "referendum" with Russian troops occupying and with the Russians controlling pretty uch, well, everything is like Having 6 foxes and 4 chickens voting on what's for dinner.
This is a shameless display.
Mass
(27,315 posts)This option was not offered. The choice was either join Russia or become an independent nation.
For the rest, I would refrain from offering opinions except for this one: we are subject to two propaganda channels, the US and Russia, who cannot be trusted on this issue. So, except being an expert on Ukraine, we should all acknowledge we know nothing.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)What Crimea is doing is called secession. If it was wrong for the South, it's wrong for the Ukrainian South.
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)Having said that, I do have a couple of thoughts.
Firstly, that if a majority of Crimeans wish to be a part of Russia and proceed to do so in accordance with any and all applicable laws, that's their right, isn't it?
Secondly, I don't trust Putin as far as I can throw him.
Thirdly, I seriously doubt that 95.5% of ANY constituency is ever going to agree about anything. I find the results of the "referendum" highly suspect.
And lastly, I don't think it's really much of our business and don't see any reason why we should get involved, except diplomatically if asked to do so by our European allies.
At least right now, I see it as a wait and see situation. The emphasis on see. See very closely.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Paul bases his support of the Crimean referendum on libertarian grounds, as if whats happening half a world away under the watchful eyes of the Russian military is akin to a Tea Party protest demanding less federal control over education policy. There should be a right of secession, Paul said on Fox. One cannot consider Pauls defense of the Crimean secession without first becoming familiar with his nostalgia for the American one.
<...>
There is an irony in a so-called libertarian defending the likes of Vladimir Putin. Ron Paul and his ilk claim to support individual rights, free markets, and a foreign policy of non-violence, yet here they are defending a man who hounds gays, presides over a kleptocratic mafia state, and invades his neighbors. Paul shirks the label of isolationist, preferring instead that of, non-interventionist, which is true only in the sense that he opposes interventionism of even the non-violent sort undertaken by the United States and its democratic allies. When it comes to violent Russian intervention in the affairs of its sovereign neighbors, however, Paul agrees with none other than former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who said that Moscow retains a sphere of privileged interests among the ex-vassal states of the Soviet Union. Why would a formerly elected official in America lend ideological cover to a foreign dictators assault on the basic human rights of his own people?
Imagine that! Ron Paul is a RW hack and hypocrite.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Ron Paul is from my neck of the woods. He is a crazed racist who is aligned with the Stormfront website. There are some really nasty people who are backing Ron Paul.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)but unfortunately he has a fan club of adoring and annoying die hards, like the Snowy One and said membership.
Oh, and Ron Paul is a racist piece of shit.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)These two idiots should NEVER be allowed to make serious decisions for the country imo.