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[MADem]

1. Gee, two wrongs make a right....? Who knew?

Who was the guy in charge in Russia back when all that happened?

I guess they don't change their dirty drawers as often as we do....?

[lumpy]

2. This picture is not from Russia.

[Rex]

4. Iraq?

What a strange response from poster #1.

[MADem]

7. What's so strange about my response?

Do you think Bush's misdeeds in Iraq excuse Putin's today? That it's a tit-for-tat game that's being played?

Do you think there's equivalent leadership in both nations? We do change our leadership every four to eight years. Putin's been hanging on for a quarter century.

The points I was making were not at all complex. Nor were they "strange." They were basic and obvious.

[MADem]

5. Of course it's not--who the hell would think it was?

One more time, slowly:

So

Two

Wrongs

Make

a

Right?

[lumpy]

6. Your post rather implies this was in Russia . This took place in Al Graib.

[Rex]

8. That's what I thought so strange about it.

Weird.

[MADem]

11. You need to work on your reading comprehension. nt

[Rex]

12. You need to work on your manners.

nt.

[MADem]

31. Please be so kind as to work on your reading comprehension. nt

[Rex]

43. That I can do.

Thanks.

[lumpy]

20. Maybe the poster was celebrating St. Pat's Day or ?

[Rex]

21. Dunno

I honestly had to recall where I saw that pic, but then I saw the American flag on the arm. I don't know if they treated prisoners in Guantanamo Bay like that, but it was my second guess.

[MADem]

9. No it doesn't imply anything of the sort. Go back and try actually reading it.

And it's not "Al Graib" -- it's Abu Ghraib. Good grief, if you're gonna try to lecture people at least get the details right. That's one of the most iconic photos of that sad and horrific chapter in our history--anyone who doesn't recognize it would have to have been asleep at the switch.

What part of "Two wrongs makes a right" suggests that the wrongs were committed by the same individual? And in case that wasn't clear, the follow on sentence should focus the easily discombobulated to the point.

[lumpy]

16. You composed your post poorly then. Why did you ask who the Russian leader was at that time?

The prison was also referred to as Al Graib. Perhaps you should not have mentioned Russia at all in reference to the picture. No wonder posters thought yours was a strange post.

[MADem]

19. We change our leaders--Russia doesn't. THAT was the point.

The OP is trying to create a false equivalence between the US and Russian governments.

That was the purpose of this shit stirring thread.

[MADem]

37. Oh please, we know EXACTLY what you're doing.

You're not even subtle.

[Cha]

36. No, it didn't "imply" it at all. The OP was implying Two wrongs make

a right. The shit bush did means we can't criticize Russia. Which is complete bullshite.

[zappaman]

41. I got it right off the bat.

You read it wrong.
Intentionally or on purpose...not that there is much difference.

[Cha]

61. I got it too.

[MADem]

13. You need to stop posting shock content photos if you don't want to be PPR'd.

You may think you're cute but you're behaving in a disruptive fashion.

The "dirty drawers" aren't what the leaders are wearing, bright eyes--they ARE the leaders.

Don't talk in shitty riddles when you can't even take the point of obvious ones.

[MADem]

22. It's not about "handling the truth"--it's about violating the DU TOS.

Here, let me quote it for you, since you're playing the obtuse, naive "duuuuh, I di-n't know" game:

Don't post "shock content" or porn.
Do not post or link to extreme images of violence, gore, bodily functions, pain, or human suffering for no purpose other than to shock and disgust. Do not post or link to pornography.

Now, don't pretend you weren't told. Since you're "new" here, here's the link to the TOS, you need to read it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[Cha]

39. thanks MADem for enlightening the OP with the TOS.

[Rex]

14. What happened under Bush Jr. was nothing short of barbarism.

You have that correct.

[lumpy]

32. What barbarism under GWBush are you reffering to ?

[Rex]

38. Invasion of Iraq, the approved 'enhanced torture techniques' used on prisoners.

That sort of thing. Should have landed his administration in jail, but you know how it is...always looking forward etc..

I think torture is barbarism.

[William769]

25. What about changing socks?

[MADem]

29. Game-set-match! nt

[William769]

34. Lit a couple of minutes ago.

[William769]

59. First you ask what it is then you go into your rant about it?

NAILED!

[SidDithers]

58. Hey. Nice pic...

Sid

[William769]

60. I told you I was going to save it and use it.

Although I think the bulb is burnt.

[sabrina 1]

55. What happened to the orchestraters of these atrocities?

Surely they have been held accountable for their crimes?

Did you know that a child was tortured in Abu Ghraib?

Any Democracy who lectures others on Human Rights issues must surely have dealt with their own war criminals before lecturing the world on the issue?

'Two wrongs make a right'.

Well, nothing can make atrocities of such mammoth proportions RIGHT for the victims. People were tortured to DEATH. Women were raped, children sodomized. Nothing can make that RIGHT.

But there is some small comfort when justice is done for the victims, and for a nation in whose name these atrocities were committed.

But what if a nation refuses to hold its war criminals responsible? What if its War Criminals appear on its national media as respected 'experts' on Foreign Policy?

What would you say about such a nation?

If it wasn't our own?

[Hekate]

3. Source? Date? Country? Context? Current events? Decade-old events?

I don't see any of that in your post. The horror, the horror indeed, passing off unattributed material that stirs people up without providing actual information.

What exactly is your point and where are you going with this, I wonder.

[Rex]

17. The guardian, completely disqualified as reliable.

I don't care if it was Iraq, you won't get far with the guardian in come circles.

[Rex]

26. You should have seen it here when Snowden and GG made their 'great escape'.

So many liberals & progressives thrown under the bus, we had to order 3 more buses!

[Hekate]

24. I'm not impressed with this post. Use your words, develop a thought. Don't just post...

...graphic content and let others make guesses. I don't know where you were when Bush the Lesser was installed in the White House, but I was in the streets and everywhere in my community by the time the propaganda was in full swing, months before "Shock and Awe." Implying that we weren't aware then or are not aware now because we can't read your intent in a guessing game is both insulting and stupid.

[Hekate]

33. Enjoy your stay. The TOS has been explained to you. nt

[Rex]

46. It's not that.

It is just that many of us have talked about this topic for years and years. Some of us have been on this site since the first days of the Bush Selections.

[Rex]

50. GD is mostly about current events.

So not really so much a time limit, but most of the topics are about something going on right now. Haven't seen a textbook in years, have no idea if they teach kids about events that current.

[Rex]

52. Go for it.

Just giving you a heads up on GD. Since you are new here.

[freshwest]

30. Whatever. I shoulda known. n/t

[alittlelark]

45. Isn't it sad that we have to ask that?

With soooo much fuckeduppery in the world - we do need to ask.

[SidDithers]

56. I knew after only 10 posts...

Sid