I've been on this site since Ariana Huffington owned it in the early 1990's

[Stargazer99]

and one thing that was told several time in that period that the goal of conservative Republicans was cheap labor
now don't you think it is time to shove it down their throats?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

1. Ariana Huffington owned DU in the early '90s?

[nobodyspecial]

3. News to the actual owners as well.

lol

[Major Nikon]

11. It's a little known fact that I am the actual sole owner of DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12591159#post1

[Codeine]

42. Should've haggled.

Probably could have gotten it for a Shasta, or a Faygo Diet Rootbeer at the most.

[Major Nikon]

47. This isn't the first bad investment I've made

[AngryAmish]

5. No, it was owned by Zsa Zsa Gabor.

The accent confuses people.

[Berlum]

2. "WTF?" - Ariana Huffy (R)

[undeterred]

78. Is that the "Green Room"?

[Cirque du So-What]

4. This site?

This site wasn't even a gleam in the eye of any of the three young(ish) men who started DU in 2001.

[sufrommich]

6. I don't think HuffPo was around in the 1990s ,let

alone DU.

[unblock]

7. welcome to huffpo!

[Cha]

92. Rofl

[Warren DeMontague]

99. before that, it was known as DU Huffingpost

[Art_from_Ark]

135. D-U Huffing-post

It's the site that's got the most
D-U Huffing-post
If you're a troll you're gonna end up toast

[Warren DeMontague]

144. Christine O'Donnell

she's trying to steal your magic flute

[Aerows]

164. Christine McDonnell is so against "flutes"

and masturbation, that she lives, unmarried with a "flute".

I guess he was tuba good to get rid of, witch, I'm sure she regretting now.

I didn't mean to harp about it.

[Warren DeMontague]

166. Self abuse is clearly a form of pun-ishment

But I remember Christine O'Donnell's boyfriend. The guy with the Col. Sanders goatee, or whatever the fuck that thing is on the bottom of his face.

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Huffington founded another website in 2005....

So your OP is a ball of confusion.....

[Dreamer Tatum]

9. Ah, memories. Those of us who were here in the mid-80's

still recall the debates we had over Nicaragua and El Salvador.

It annoyed the folks who were here since Watergate...I understand the fur really
flew then. And that was before broadband!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

12. The halcyon days of 2400 baud! Oh, those were the days, boy! nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

14. You have to applaud the prescience of FDR to greenlight creation of the internet, though. nt

[ChisolmTrailDem]

15. The New Deal was...the deal! nt

[Champion Jack]

88. I thought it was ol Abe Lincoln, right after he invented the internet webs

[HooptieWagon]

89. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln

[VanillaRhapsody]

105. 2400 baud was bad ass compared to what I had!

I still miss that connection sound!

[Ikonoklast]

128. Well, that was nothing compared to the sweet click-click-clacking of a telegraph key!

Mind you, threads took a bit longer to reply to, and it was insanely difficult to keep track of everyone....

I HOPE WILSON GETS THE NOMINATION STOP HE'S THE BEST CHANCE WE HAVE TO WIN THE OVAL OFFICE STOP

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SUPPORT WILSON STOP HE WAS A LOUSY GOVERNOR AND WILL MAKE A WORSE PRESIDENT STOP OFF TO IGNORE YOU GO STOP


WILSON WILL KEEP US OUT OF ANY EUROPEAN WARS STOP YOU MUST BE SOME KIND OF WARMONGER STOP BET YOU OWN REMINGTON STOCK STOP IGNORE ME ALL YOU WANT YOU STILL WEAR SHORT PANTS STOP


WILSON IS NOT MY CHOICE EITHER STOP ANYONE VOTING FOR WILSON IS A TOOL OF THE CAPITALIST CLASS STOP


WILSON WILL NEVER GET THE NOMINATION BET THE FARM ON IT STOP PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT MAKE WESTERN UNION SUCK STOP

[VanillaRhapsody]

129. Thank you....YOU made my night!!!!

That was brilliant!!!

[hatrack]

178. This is GENIUS!!

Caesar has been assassinated! Call The Senate RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

[Ms. Toad]

170. Baw-be-bop-be-buw-be-bop-be-bawwww n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

185. thanks for that walk down memory lane...

I do still get excited to hear it in a movie to this day...

[SharonAnn]

184. I used to call it the "chicken strangling sound". Final connection OK step.

[Ms. Toad]

169. Umm....Watergate is even before the days of 2400 baud.

My parents bought me a 4 function calculator for high school graduation shortly after Watergate for around $100. The computer I used my first year of college filled the entire basement of the college library - and it took 24 hours to turn around a card deck...2400 baud was only a twinkle in Al Gore's eye back then...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

171. It's really amazing how far we've come since half the freaking population is beyond stupid. nt

[Codeine]

19. Remember the Dewey Defeats Truman thread?

Epic lulz there. So many people ended up on Earl Warren's iggy list that day!

[Dreamer Tatum]

20. And remember when we were online for the Shot Heard Round the World?

The Dodgers Win The Pennant!

I can still see the 1950-era HTML on the Sporting News website. Took forever for those
Maypo ads to load.

[Codeine]

24. "Took forever for those Maypo ads to load."

Thread win, sir.

[Aerows]

165. It was the Stuckey's ads

that gave my browser fits.

[pangaia]

62. The DODGERS??

Umm.. is that sarcasm?
I hope so, he said with a sly chuckle....

[pangaia]

63. OK, forhget it. I just woke up...

[greatauntoftriplets]

26. I remember posting about that from my mother's womb!

Those were the days.

[Codeine]

28. Running a landline in there must've been hell. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

32. Oh, the horror stories she told me about that.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. It was a pain in the ass feeding all those cards in during a flame-thread.

[Codeine]

35. Hand-lettering all the meme images took hours.

[pipoman]

154. Funny you should post this

I was just last Friday at The Elms Hotel in Excelsior Springs where the pic was taken.

[Warren DeMontague]

149. I liked the Newey defeats Trumad thread better

[Aerows]

61. I was recovering from a wound I got at Appomattox Courthouse

back then, so I wasn't around much.

[dilby]

10. Ariana was a Republican in the 90's.

Maybe you are thinking of that other Political site for conservatives or something.

[reddread]

16. Republican women must be great in bed

since Jerry Brown was sleeping with her back when.
Not to mention James Carville and his squeeze.
I wonder who is really getting screwed?

[MineralMan]

13. I believe you are confused about more than one thing.

[Eleanors38]

95. Well, in for a dime... nt

[rurallib]

17. I believe the actual owner at that time was Ariana Underground

she married Franklin Roosevelt Democratic in early 2000 and they hyphenated their names and named the website after them. Thus Democratic-Underground.
I do believe that the Democratic-Undergrounds do not favor shoving anything down anyone's throat without full consent of the shovee.

[snooper2]

18. I've been hanging out here since the early 90's as well-

Remember the threads about all the gangster rap coming out!



And then when Tupac was murded, shit GD BLEW UP!

[msanthrope]

25. Don't restart the Biggie/Tupac wars...we lost too many good people! nt

[Codeine]

31. Yeah, it got so bad the Eastside and Westside had to have their own discussion folders.

The day the admins finally gave Suge Knight his tombstone was a welcome one.

[Crunchy Frog]

45. All I remember from the 90's was OJ and the Clenis.

[lunatica]

52. You don't remember Lorenna Bobbit?!

[Warren DeMontague]

147. At first glance, I thought he was wheeling a loaf of bread.

[Cha]

93. No this place isn't crazy.. keep

repeating that over and over..

[LiberalAndProud]

21. This proves it. We live in the multiverse(s). -nt

[Puzzledtraveller]

22. Almost, but not quite

what is also desired is a class of worker that is satisfied with the work and the wages. This will never be achieved by employing americans.

[Brother Buzz]

23. Arianna Huffington was Michael Huffington's beard back in the early nineties

[Hekate]

56. She was grooming him for a presidential run.Taking the Santa Barbara US Congressional seat was step1

They spent the most money evah to unseat a 20-year Republican incumbent, Bob Lagomarsino, who understood that local issues like the environment were not restricted to imaginary hippies. The Huffingtons were clueless. Anyway, they only lasted one term.

As for her beardness: that she was.

[Brother Buzz]

83. He only lasted one term because of that bombastic idea of running for Senate.

Too much to quick. Micheal's charisma was zilch, like he went to George H.W. Bush charm school.

[eShirl]

27. I think you are confused.

[The Straight Story]

30. I was here when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain

Back then though I had a different user name

[Codeine]

38. We say "LOL" an awful lot these days,

but sometimes one really does end up laughing out loud.

[sl8]

74. Pleased to meet you ... n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

150. beat me to it, hoo-hoo

hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo

[Mojorabbit]

84. duzy! nt

[Cha]

94. LOL

[steve2470]

33. might wanna edit your OP.... nt

[Eleanors38]

100. Why?

[steve2470]

101. HuffPost has only been around since May 2005

DU has only been around since 2001. He's talking about the 1990's.

[Eleanors38]

106. Why?

[steve2470]

107. why do you care ? read the OP.... nt

[Eleanors38]

110. p-p-FFFt. whhheeeeewwww...

[steve2470]

103. and..why do you care ?

My comment was addressed to the OP....

[Democracyinkind]

34. I was here when the epic flamewars between the Greek and Trojan apologists took place.

I was almost run off this site for suggesting that both sides were dirty imperialists and that it was not about Helen at all but about OIL. Olive oil, that is.

[Codeine]

39. Fucking Hectoristas.

No place for that shit on Achilles Underground.

[Democracyinkind]

40. Tell me about it... I have a good mind to take this to GD again!

[davidpdx]

139. I heard the Trojans took off their rubbers

That's what really started the battle.

[libodem]

36. Down their throats

Or up their........

[Orsino]

37. Pining for the antebellum overlaps a lot with cheap-labor policy.

Wage slavery is just another step toward our ruling class' ultimate goal.

[Autumn]

41. Yes I agree, lets shove it down their throats. Must have a couple of web sites open

and you posted in the wrong one.

[Deuce]

43. In the words of Sheriff Taylor...

"You beat everything, you know that?"

[Democracyinkind]

44. Kick for the sheer hilarity...

[kwassa]

46. I've been on this site since Marcus Aurelius owned it in 165 A.D.

Carving things in stone got very tedious, though.

[Skraxx]

48. We used to shout our posts out the window back then

Good times.

[Kurovski]

85. The internet used to be on the radio.

You had to really squint to hear it.

[steve2470]

111. ok that was funny ! nt

[csziggy]

163. That had to be after they gave up on IP over Avian Carriers

In computer networking, IP over Avian Carriers (IPoAC) is a humorously-intended proposal to carry Internet Protocol (IP) traffic by birds such as homing pigeons. IP over Avian Carriers was initially described in RFC 1149, a Request for Comments (RFC) issued by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) written by D. Waitzman and released on April 1, 1990. It is one of several April Fools' Day RFCs.

Waitzman described an improvement of his protocol in RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service (1 April 1999). Later, in RFC 6214 released on 1 April 2011, and 13 years after the introduction of IPv6, Carpenter and Hinden published Adaptation of RFC 1149 for IPv6.[1]

IPoAC has been successfully implemented, but for only nine packets of data, with a packet loss ratio of 55% (due to user error),[2] and a response time ranging from 3000 seconds (~54 minutes) to over 6000 seconds (~1.77 hours). Thus, this technology suffers from poor latency. Nevertheless, for large transfers, avian carriers are capable of high average throughput when carrying flash memory devices, effectively implementing a sneakernet. During the last 20 years, the information density of storage media and thus the bandwidth of an Avian Carrier has increased 3 times faster than the bandwidth of the Internet.[3] IPoAC may achieve bandwidth peaks of orders of magnitude more than the Internet when used with multiple Avian Carriers in rural areas. For example: If 16 homing pigeons are given eight 32 GB SD cards each, and take an hour to reach their destination, the throughput of the transfer would be 9102 Mbit/s, excluding transfer to and from the SD cards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/writeup.html

[madinmaryland]

49. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN, RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

Seriesly. THIS IS HUGH!!

[Renew Deal]

152. Best post of 1993

Never forgot it.

[Zorra]

50. OK, I'm pretty sure I've figured this out.

[BainsBane]

51. This thread died too soon

[Hekate]

58. Can't have that!

[redwitch]

53. A doozy of a mistake. Or maybe a DUZY.

Just awoke from a nap to find this thread. At least I think I am awake, I may be still dreaming.

[NaturalHigh]

54. You did what to who, now?

[dionysus]

55. ...mainly because half the people i was with at the time believed it until i explained it to them...

[Hekate]

59. heehee. I saw what you did there.

We owe a debt of thanks to the OP just for letting us have this romp.

[dionysus]

60. .

[PowerToThePeople]

57. I was on DU when it was a BBS in the mid 80's

I got a kick out of the Reagan cowboy union busting door game.

[Aerows]

64. I had just gotten over the Black Plague by then

Interesting times.

[struggle4progress]

66. Ah, the big arguments we had here when Kepler announced his laws of planetary motion!

And all the hot-headed disputes here about germ theory of disease, when it was first suggested!

DU has always been cutting edge

[Aerows]

68. It truly has!

Even when we were first improving on the first cutting edge made of stone!

[struggle4progress]

70. I wonder what happened to all those folk who got banned during the arguments over Clovis Points

[Aerows]

76. They are probably STILL

debating whether it was really was a Columbian Mammoth or a plain old American Mastedon. Those folks would never give up!

[tblue37]

115. They now post over at the Clovis Cave. nt

[hatrack]

179. Clovis??!?!!??! BLASPHEMER!

Off to Folsom Prison with you!

[PowerToThePeople]

69. I bleed my self every day for several weeks based off one OP I read

I feel kind of silly now about the whole thing.

[struggle4progress]

71. I remember trying to warn you to use leeches instead

[AverageJoe90]

121. I remember the Sixties.....

I was always so stooooooonnnnnnned, mmaaaaaaaannnnnnn........

[whistler162]

158. So you weren't there!

[TroglodyteScholar]

123. Yes, I remember because DU was in the list of doors right above Food Fight!

Where I exercised the LOONY BIRD attack quite liberally (pun intended)

[Jesus Malverde]

65. Little known fact.

Skinner actually won DU in a game of strip poker.

[BainsBane]

67. Then Skinner knows more about Arianna Huffington

than any of us realized.

[davidpdx]

140. I heard he knows here biblical speaking

Oh just kidding Skinner! *whimpers please don't kick me off*

[pinboy3niner]

73. DU hasn't been the same since Arianna was outstripped by Skinner

[undeterred]

79. Was the game with Huffington and Ralph Nader?

[Warren DeMontague]

96. It was a game of Sabaac, and he won it from Lando Calirissian

or perhaps it was Ann Coulter.

[Aerows]

167. LMAO

Yep, Ann Coulter!

[A HERETIC I AM]

72. I've been a member here for five minutes.

And I remember .....


Fuck.....

No, that was somebody else.

Oh yeah! I remember .... No, that was next week.

How the hell did I get over 10,000 posts in 5 minutes, anyway? Musta been all those "LOL n/t" posts.

[A HERETIC I AM]

75. LOL. n/t

[BuelahWitch]

114. You got those 10,000 posts by posting kitty pics in the lounge!

Or was it gun porn? Shit, I don't remember. Shall I email Zsa Zsa & ask?

[BainsBane]

77. I remember blogging live from the grassy knoll

outside the Texas book depository in 1963. Fortunately, my Ipad fit neatly in the waistband of my Pampers so I was prepared to keep everyone posted on a moment's notice.

[arcane1]

80. Asteroid? What asteroid?

We lost a lot of good people back when this was Dinosaur Underground

[Eleanors38]

104. The one that's powering my Samsuck.

[flvegan]

81. This thread is destined to be a classic.

[LeftyMom]

82. Ah, the early 90s. Skinner was bearding for a gay republican back then.

It's a damn shame I'm no good at Photoshop.

[Aerows]

86. Whoa - we are still debating cat domestication, 9,000 years later

DU rules!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024714480#post39

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024714480#post41

[AverageJoe90]

186. Does anyone else remember the parting of the Red Sea?

A real mensch, that Moses was.

[Kingofalldems]

87. Re the body of your OP. She is absolutely correct.

The goal of cons is cheap labor.

[HooptieWagon]

90. You joined in 2006.

You were a lurker for 15 years before joining? That must be a record!

[Eleanors38]

108. He's been lurking was before lurking was cool.

[redwitch]

91. Kicking this because it is so much fun! nt

[Cha]

98. It's much needed Hilarity!

[Warren DeMontague]

97. I owned it, and I sold it to Arianna.

But at first glance, I thought he was wheeling a loaf of bread.

[Kurovski]

120. Wheel I don't know about your roll in that.

You butter have proof. And I mean axel-ent proof, at very yeast.

An unclear reading of history can result in mis-punderstandings.

[Warren DeMontague]

125. So many cunning linguists

so little time.

[Kurovski]

126. Is that some kind of crack?

Because, I can lick you!

[Warren DeMontague]

131. I hear tell there's an viaduct on the Kennedy Expressway

[Kurovski]

136. I've done a drive-by.

Graffiti by O'Keeffe.

I mean, come on. If a gay boy without a driver's license can find it...

[Warren DeMontague]

143. You know what they say... "slow on the uptake - slow on the turnpike"

Actually, I don't know if they say that. They should, though.

[Kurovski]

145. Did you mean "Slow in the fast lane"?

All I know is, if you can find a pistil, you can find a stamen.

[Warren DeMontague]

146. pistils at dawn!

I demand satisfaction!



and yeah, that guy in the fast lane bugs me, too.



to be fair, it looks like he drove all the way here from Britain, so no wonder he's pooped.

[Kurovski]

160. That's how gentlemen would stamen in the old days.

Glad we could leave it behind, I can think of a better way to seed satisfaction.

[spanone]

102. that's just all wrong.

[Tree-Hugger]

109. Kicking because

I was here back when Henry VIII was pulling that crap with the divorce and the Church. GD got ugly with flamewars between "Team Aragon " and "Team Boleyn."Then team Third Way Jane Seymour came about and shit.hit.the.fan. Rough days.

[Kurovski]

122. Yep.

Anne was ahead of the curve.

[Kaleva]

112. A drive by posting in the wrong forum

[Vashta Nerada]

113. Ah. The early '90s. I remember DU when it was just a GeoCities website.

[amerikat]

116. I've never had a star membership back then.

Shit. Stars had only been recently created. Later on I had a chance at a star.
But the cost of shipping carved stone currency over a 2400 baud modem was prohibitive.
I'll get one someday in the not to far distant past.

[Electric Monk]

117. .. / .-.. --- ...- . / - .... .. ... / - .... .-. . .- -.. / ... --- / -- ..- -.-. .... /

.- .... / .-.-.- / - .... --- ... . / .-- . .-. . / - .... . / -.. .- -.-- ... / .-.-.- / .-- .... . -. / .- .-.. / .-- . / .... .- -.. / .-- .- ... / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-.-.- / - .. -. / -.-. .- -. ... / ..-. --- .-. / .- / ..- ... . .-. / .. -. - . .-. ..-. .- -.-. . / .-.-.- / .- -. -.. / ... - .-. .. -. --. / ..-. --- .-. / .- / -.-. --- -. . -.-. - .. --- -. /

[Ms. Toad]

172. -- . / - --- --- .-.-.-

[Lex]

118. OWNED it? I thought we were an autonomous collective.

[A HERETIC I AM]

133. You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship.

A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes....

[AverageJoe90]

119. Damn, man, I remember when the Revolution was going on.

The flame wars between the Loyalists and the Patriots got so bad that, at one point, Monsieur Skinnere had to tombstone fully half of the more assholish posters on both sides just to keep the peace. And then the reactions when people learned that Benedict Arnold switched sides? I still remember the coinage of "Ben-a-dicked" and "to pull an Arnold" is still used to describe traitors, real or perceived, to this day. Oh, and when the Brits admitted defeat? Hoo boy, you shoulda seen that one! This place almost imploded, while Jefferson and Jem Madison and company were thanking all of us who supported them.

Yep, those were the days.....

[Rex]

124. A lot of people coming back or longtime lurkers posting is nice to see.

What did you think of this site in 2006?

[tularetom]

127. It was a big scoop when DU reported that the Germans had bombed Pearl Harbor

[Cha]

141. Oh why am I laughing

so hard.

[msanthrope]

182. He's rolling....

http://m.

[Cha]

187. Thanks for important bit of movie trivia, msanthrope! :)

[Systematic Chaos]

130. In other news: There are now no internets left.

This thread won them all.

[A HERETIC I AM]

134. In that case, have a Panda that just wants to be left alone.

[RainDog]

132. kick

and to you all. LMAO.

[Jesus Malverde]

137. Back at ya RD.

[RainDog]

156. ...

[bluesbassman]

138. It wasn't the gruelling miles that did in the Pony Express...

It was having to carry all of SalmonChantedEvenings lolcats.

[stage left]

142. Insanely hilarious?

Or hilariously insane? Either way, this thread is killing me. Thanks for the memories.

[muriel_volestrangler]

151. I remember the threads about whether cosmic inflation would be a good idea

I told everyone that someone would find the evidence for it eventually, but did they listen? Did they hell. Now look where we are. And we should never have split the weak nuclear force from electromagnetic, either ...

[cherokeeprogressive]

153. I remember when this place was called Modem Butterfly.

And all Skinner could afford was white text on a black background.

Or maybe that was my monitor. It's all such a blur.

[pintobean]

155. It's astounding

Time is fleeting
Madness takes it's toll...

[Smarmie Doofus]

157. Eddie Albert, is that you?

"Keep Manhattan just gimme that countrySIDE."

[ellenfl]

159. in the early 1990's, i believe ah was still a republican. eom

[Renew Deal]

161. kick

[nobodyspecial]

162. Funniest thread in awhile

Thanks for the laughs.

[Warren DeMontague]

168. The way I see it, aint no difference between a UFO, and a time machine.

[Ms. Toad]

174. Thanks for kicking this -

I was away from the internet when it went through the first time.

[uppityperson]

176. Seriously. How did I miss this the first time through?

[Warren DeMontague]

183. Seriously.

'Tis a thing of beauty, it is.

[In_The_Wind]

181. whoops

"the more you drive" ....

[Tommy_Carcetti]

173. Oh boy!

[dembotoz]

175. in all truth---the big bang happened when du shorted out its first server.

it was just supposed to be a simple reboot....................

[Squinch]

177. Is this the cave painting forum? I've been away for a while

I had to take a break after the corn flake bison recipe wars. A lot has changed here since then.

I swear, it looks like the feckin' Neandertals are swarming around here.

[hatrack]

180. This is the best thread of 1914