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Ive only heared Mark Thompson and guess on his show talk about this. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16747869-why-is-mainstream-media-covering-up-us-backing-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-part-2
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Yes, there are neo-Nazis and ultranationalists in Ukraine.
Just like many places.
No, the recent change in power was not orchestrated by neo-Nazis, ultranationalists, the CIA, western Neo-cons, etc.
It was an organic Ukrainian movement spanning all ideologies, religious groups, linguistic groups, etc.
The "neo-Nazi/neo-con" coup is a false narrative being peddled by bored Westerners who feel as though the actual narrative isn't titillating enough.
mr_hat
(3,410 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)That's the puzzle for me.
EmilyAnne
(2,769 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)In the Part 1 Video
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)That's it in a nutshell.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)This is their new campaign ad. It's bloody scary...like something from Hitlers Third Reich.
The fact the US media is ignoring this speaks volumes. These are the thugs who led all the violent protests. The reason they were successful so fast is because they are so violent.1000words
(7,051 posts)Both sides can't be the bad guy. It'll confuse the peanut gallery.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)that's the ticket, ignoring.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)A lot of "useful idiots" fell for Russian pumped propaganda about the truly unexceptional fact that part of opposition to Russian domination of Ukraine is Ukrainian ultra-nationalists.
Well, duh. It is a type of propaganda that is very insulting to the reader because it presumes the reader is so dumb as to "pick sides" based on extraneous emotionally loaded junk.
That factoid doesn't have any meaning because the overall story is not a story about neo-nazis taking over Ukraine and brave Russia trying to stop them, and nobody was basing their argument against Russia bullying Ukraine on the proposition that there was no ultra-nationalist party in Ukraine.
The neo-nazi types are a minority portion of the total opposition to Russian dominance of Ukraine, and the fact that some Ukrainians opposed to Russian dominance of Ukraine are assholes is the non-story of the year.
If Mexico tried to seize Arizona a lot of opposition to the move would come from tea-party types. It's true.
Which says nothing at all about the equity of hypothetical Mexican dominance of Arizona.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)And you have to wonder how many of those types in the Ukrainian opposition actually were hired and paid by Russia to dress and act like neofascist agitators. I wonder how Russian media got such clear images of these so-called neofascists.
Since Russia deliberately sent "unmarked" troops without insignias or badges into Ukraine to take over Crimea, I'm sure they would be capable of hiring fake neofascists.
This is the same kind of thing the FBI used to infiltrate the movement opposed to the Vietnam War; it's not a new tactic.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)they HAVE, however, *actually* ignored the neo-fascist problems in Russia quite easily.....hmm.....I wonder why.....
mike_c
(36,281 posts)Even if that means making them simplistic. Hell, PARTICULARLY if that means making them simplistic.
doc03
(35,365 posts)war with Russia.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Pretty much for the same reason the BBC and NHK ignore the neo-Nazis in the U.S.n when they report about U.S. politics-- loud, but small in number, ineffectual, and marginalized to the point of being an embarrassment to the country and the body politic... at best, a footnote to a story, but more often than not, irrelevant to the story.
Though I imagine there are (and will be) idiots who maintain that the "neo-Nazis" are indicative of the Ukrainian government as a whole, the U.S. government as a whole... or even both.