Obama has fugged up the neo-cons yet again

[malaise]

His foreign policy differs big time from that of Bushco. That Press Conference in the Netherlands today must be watched by all DUers.

[chillfactor]

1. AGREED....

one of Obama's best news conferences IMO...

[genwah]

2. I think this is the link to what you're refferencing.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2014/03/25/president-obama-holds-press-conference-prime-minister-rutte-nether

[DallasNE]

14. As I Watched Obama Perform On The World Stage

I couldn't help but have flashbacks to when George W. Bush was on a similar stage and the thought made me shudder because about the only thing we could have been sure of is that whatever he said would have been half-baked. Tonight I will sleep soundly.

[betsuni]

17. I shuddered too

Thinking about GWB on the world stage. I feel warm inside at how world leaders seem to respect and like Obama, compared to what they used to have to deal with! Yet the teleprompter jokes and "empty suit" accusations continue.

[Iliyah]

3. K & R

[go west young man]

4. Sadly, the neocons did get what they wanted.

1) A new Cold War for all their MIC buddies.
2) Effective coup in Ukraine effecting Russia's economic standing
3) The ability to influence US policy
4) Access to Ukraines natural gas so they can sell it to Europe and line their pockets and those of their oil buddies.
5) Air time to spew their talking points and make themselves seem important.

The fact is Obama shouldn't have had a neocons wife stationed in Ukraine handing out cookies and being recorded saying "fuck the EU". He has alienated we on the hard left once again with this new Cold War BS and the name calling is not proper statesmanship. Obama should have prosecuted the neocons ages ago instead of giving them a free pass for their Iraq crimes.

[The Magistrate]

6. The 'Hard Left' is Permanently Alienated, Sir

No one needs to worry about alienating the hard left. If anything, one has to worry about being identified with it, or more precisely, confused with it, in the mind of the public at large. A general sense among the public that 'the left' is un-American if not actively anti-American, which whether actively felt at any particular time or not can be effectively appealed to and rapidly roused in political campaigns, is the chief reason why left and progressive policies are seen as not politically feasible, and why the left is perpetually on the defensive in our political life.

[Doctor_J]

7. maybe, but they'll be blamed for the November massacre that's coming

If the president wants to deliberately alienate them he will probably need to live without their votes

[The Magistrate]

8. The Sort Who Calls Himself 'Hard Left', Doctor, Does Not Vote For Democrats Anyway

They seldom vote at all, being of the view that there is no appreciable difference between Democrats and Republicans, and that there is nothing to be gained by voting for one side or another from a serious leftist perspective.

[Doctor_J]

9. i do

And have since 1978

[The Magistrate]

10. And I Strongly Suspect, Doctor, If Someone Here Said You Were 'Hard Left' Or 'Extreme Left'

You would brindle at the description, and insist that your positions were no more than the New Deal and in fact the views of a majority of the people.

[quakerboy]

11. those two descriptions are not by any means

exclusive. Hard left by today's political standards overlaps the new deal quite nicely. Pointing that out is hardly to "brindle". Its a thing to be proud of, even if our imprecise and highly hyperbolized use of terminology means we often misunderstand or misinterpret each other.

[The Magistrate]

13. Just About Everyone Called 'Hard Left' Here, Repudiates The Address

The person I replied to declared himself to be of the 'hard left', and by his postings here seems to fit older definitions of the term.

I agree that there has a been a rightward creep of the political spectrum here, so that views that would have been center-left, or even center-right, in my youth, can now be presented, at least, as well to the left of center.

[go west young man]

28. Same here..

There are only two choices, sadly.

[roody]

27. Hard left here- always vote. Nt

[The Magistrate]

29. Then Doubtless You Will Continue To Do So, Sir

You will see the need to oppose and balk the most reactionary elements, and will hardly decide that this distant matter in central Europe is grounds for depriving a left-of-center coalition of your vote, considering the likely domestic consequences of a rightist victory in the national legislature.

[malaise]

15. I completely agree with you re Obama prosecuting the lot of them

but the only cold war that exists is in neo-con minds.
The coup will last as long as the velvet revolution
No one is listening to their talking points - Americans know what Bushco did to their sons and daughters with the never ending treks to war, and they are now coming to terms with the global loss of credibility.

The good news about the neo-cons is that they are rank amateurs and among the most vulgar of war profiteers.

[reformist2]

19. I have to agree with gowest - why are these neocons still in the state department???

[malaise]

20. We all want them gone but you need to look at

how Bushco and their goons got permanent jobs for their tools - removing them is no easy job.

[reformist2]

21. True - but I'd like to see Victoria Nuland quietly let go in the next few months, as proof

that Obama does mean to clean house.

[malaise]

22. Is her husband the one who supports slavery?

She should go.

[IL Lib]

5. +1 He had that tool Jonathan Karl looking like an idiot. n/t

[betsuni]

12. But

I see headlines about it as Karl "calling out" Obama and "asking tough questions" and the like. I was listening to the press conference and didn't catch the name when Karl began his "questions." Hearing him I thought, who is this idiot, sounds like Fox News. Then I looked at the screen and there was his smug face spouting his usual nasty Republican talking points. I know I shouldn't watch ABC News because I get too angry when the entire story is footage of Jon asking his dumb question at a press conference and then standing in front of the White House smirking about how bad Obama is as squirrels run around behind him.

[malaise]

16. Yep he did look like an uninformed hack

but we already know that.

[cali]

18. Libya ring a bell? supporting the Egyptian coup ring a bell?

that wonderfuck of a surge ring a bell?

You amaze me.

[ProSense]

23. Obama's foreign policy doctrine and why it makes sense

Obama's foreign policy doctrine and why it makes sense
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024635047

How Obama Crippled a Russian Bank with a Stroke of a Pen
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024708736

[malaise]

24. Dan Senor crawled out today on morning Joe Scum

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!

[ProSense]

25. This moron

Romney camp trying to walk back national security adviser Dan Senor's comment on Iran strike
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021040432

[malaise]

26. Yep

That moron

[freshwest]

33. WW3 or TEOTWAWKI is the GOP plan: Loot the dead and extort those still living. Classic piracy. n/t

[go west young man]

30. Pirates and emperors...

who ever has the biggest guns wins. It doesn't make them morally correct.

We know your proud of your leader but if Russia ran the globe it would be just the opposite. The only difference is Russia doesn't run the globe and probably wouldn't mess with the oppositions private banks.

[malaise]

31. Hardly proud because all US Presidents are hawks

That said there is a fundamental difference between Obama and Bushco and I cheer on every occasion where he fuggs up the neo-cons. Undoing the mess crated by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell is no easy task.

[ProSense]

32. Well

"We know your proud of your leader but if Russia ran the globe it would be just the opposite. The only difference is Russia doesn't run the globe and probably wouldn't mess with the oppositions private banks."

...it's a good thing for human rights that Russia doesn't

Russia: Crimea tensions force American anti-gay group to cancel Moscow conference
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024727627


http://progressivepopulist.org/2014/03/07/stewart-blasts-fox-news-traitorous-hypocritical-praising-putin-video/

Jon Stewart Skewers Conservatives' Massive Crush On Vladimir Putin
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/stewart-skewers-conservative-love-for-putin--3

Analysis: Why Russia's Crimea move fails legal test
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024623531

With Journalists Under Attack, Crimea Faces ‘Information Crisis’ Ahead Of National Referendum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024630765

Russia: Sochi Games Highlight Homophobic Violence
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/02/03/russia-sochi-games-highlight-homophobic-violence

Russian Federation: Prisoner of conscience beaten in court: Aleksey Polikhovich
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR46/016/2014/en

Russia: Violent attack on former Pussy Riot members must not be tolerated
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/russia-violent-attack-former-pussy-riot-members-must-not-be-tolerated-2014-

The Russian authorities accelerate their assault on freedom of assembly
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR46/018/2014/en

Russia: Freedom of expression falls victim to the dramatic events in Ukraine’s Crimea
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/russia-freedom-expression-falls-victim-dramatic-events-ukraine-s-crimea-2014-03-03

Crimea: Attacks, ‘Disappearances’ by Illegal Forces
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/14/crimea-attacks-disappearances-illegal-forces

[freshwest]

34. Well, by all means, let's have Russia run the globe! They've got catchy music, too:

Play that a few times until it sinks in ProSense and you will finally be one of the cool kids.

P. S. Awesome post.

[freshwest]

35. From your excellent link with Jon Stewart, ProSense:

Jon Stewart Blasts Fox New’s Traitorous, Hypocritical Praising of Putin (VIDEO)



On The Daily Show Thursday night, Jon Stewart ripped the Fox News network’s near-orgasmic love-fest with Russian President Vladimir Putin and pointed out the hypocrisy of the GOP propaganda channel calling Putin a “real leader” while referring to President Obama as a “dictator” for supposedly doing the same sorts of things.

Stewart asked, “What happened to these people as children that has enabled this love-hate relationship with authoritarian figures and the inherent cognitive dissonance that goes along with such a schism?”

Stewart also highlighted the embellished stories about Putin’s supposed toughness, mentioning the story about Putin shooting a tiger that had been trapped and put to sleep.

“For God’s sakes,” he said. “How, in a 24-hour news cycle, do you upgrade Putin from wrestling bears to tigers, anyhow? By tomorrow, it’ll be, ‘Putin once smacked the teeth out of a great white shark and made it blow him, while Barack Obama just sat there, wistfully, wearing Capri pants and a baby bonnet.”

He then mocked Sean Hannity for fawning over a picture of a shirtless “big, strong muscular” Putin riding a horse while President Obama is pictured riding a bike with a safety hat on.

http://progressivepopulist.org/2014/03/07/stewart-blasts-fox-news-traitorous-hypocritical-praising-putin-video/