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Let us not fuck around here with terms like "hate crime" and "mass murder." Let us not be careful where we tread for fear of offending the delicate sensibilities of stupid people. Let's just call the shooting spree at two Jewish centers that ended with three people killed in Overland Park, Kansas, yesterday what it is. Frazier Glenn Cross, the shooter, committed an act of terrorism. He is affiliated with terrorist groups who seek to use violence to overthrow the current government of the United States. And the only reason that anyone would hedge on that is because they don't want to piss off the Tea Party and other right-wing fucknuts who believe that, because they don't wear hoods and robes, they aren't as derangedly racist as the local Grand Wizard of the KKK.
Cross (who also, charmingly, went by the name "Glenn Miller" - make your own rusty trombone joke) was a known white supremacist and kind of a pussy, arrested and convicted on weapons charges before narcing out fellow racists to the FBI. He had once run for Senate in 2010 as a write-in candidate in Missouri, and he produced anti-Jewish and race-baiting radio commercials that the local stations were forced to run because federal law allows you to be as much of a dick in public as you can afford.
A trip into Cross's website is a descent into a white rabbit's asshole, all noise and shit. It is filled with crazed ranting about Jews controlling everything: "The Jew-controlled entertainment media have taken the lead in persuading a whole generation that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable way of life; that there is nothing at all wrong with White women dating or marrying Black men, or with White men marrying Asian women; that all races are inherently equal in ability and characterexcept that the character of the White race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races; and that any effort by Whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible." Wow, we've been busy.
When you look at Cross's list of "My Political Goals," with a little bit of language changed, it reads like a teabagger's bizarro, fevered wet dream, the kind where you end up realizing that you've fucked the stuffing out of your pillow, but at least you made it your bitch. In between the bullshit about giving whites "back" everything that non-whites have taken from them or segregating prisons or giving equal time on the air to crazy fuckers, there's things like "To initiate laws that will mandate that American company executives who have relocated their companies to foreign countries to take advantage of cheap labor, at the expense of American workers, will either return those companies to the continental United States, or else lose their American citizenships, permanently," the kind of stuff where you think, "Huh. This motherfucker blames everyone for his shitty job. Too bad he couldn't focus his energy on just the right people."
But mostly this dude saw Jews manipulating all other people for their advantage, turning gentile white men into "cowards." He admonishes whites, "Despise the Jew parasites! Not the bodies, minds, and souls that these Jew parasites attach themselves to and suck the life's blood from their unsuspecting victims, draining their sap, strength and very will to resist." And he calls for "defense" to restore whites to total power against the ZOG (the Zionist Occupational Government aka the ideology of "I fuck myself with my own fist" . He also talks about how proud he is of the thousands of people who are part of the organizations he supports and has joined.
You can see it on the Vanguard News Network, an online clearinghouse for white supremacists to vomit out loudly and proudly (under mostly fake names) the bile that they used to have to keep to themselves or their little group of cross-burners meeting in the basement. Yeah, VNN already has a page up with people praising Cross. The Rude Pundit tries to avoid reposting online comments because there's only so much his soul can take before it finally just says, "Yeah, fuck you, man. I'm outta here" and leaves him a hollowed out husk. You can read it for yourself.
But if you like that sort of thing, you can get your rocks off on the blog Endzog, which has a "Frazer Glenn Miller Jr Tribute" to face rape you with a 12-minute video. Oh, and the blogger says, "Many of us would say it was too early to go in and we should wait for them to more publically (sic) kick-off their race war first, but he made his decision and White nationalists should not second guess it." Yes, let's all defend this guy's right to buy a bunch of guns without a background check.
The point here is that, in the wake of this incident and the Sikh temple shooting in 2012, the FBI should be wrecking these domestic groups. Federal law enforcement agencies trawl the internet, seeking people who blink in the direction of jihad so the pathetic fucks can be infiltrated and set-up to look like they're actually gonna blow up a bridge or some such shit. If the shooter had been Frazeer al-Cross, we'd be talking about nothing but terrorism.
Right now, you're more likely to be mowed down by an ignorant fuck with a rifle and a head full of conspiracy theories than you are to die in a suicide bombing at your local mall. But because that ignorant fuck is part of the Republican base, conservatives lose their shit if you suggest that we need to do more about those terrorist organizations.
By the way, let's hope someone informs Cross that he killed only one Jew, being that not many people stand around with hooked noses, counting money, so it was hard to get the right targets. The other two were white Christians, a doctor and his 14 year-old grandson. Chances are, he'll dismiss that as Jew propaganda.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/04/white-supremacists-are-more-dangerous.html
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)The ones that couch behind "Zionist" or "Israeli" are the real fucking cowards because they can't even embrace their own bigotry.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)They are our Al-Qaeda.
riqster
(13,986 posts)GOTFV!
riqster
(13,986 posts)Thank you, meegbear, for posting him here.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Orrex
(63,213 posts)Incidentally, I find it more humorous and rhetorically satisfying to spell it "Jooz."
riqster
(13,986 posts)They called themselves "Jewish Gentiles" while they stayed there.
Mormons, oy!
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)However, sweeps week is coming up...so...
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)bigtime with the 1964 voting rights laws. Notice how the moneyed people used their influence within their Religious groups to foster hatred and bigotry. Nam was blowing up and the MSM as usual were not paying attention. The U.S.Taliban showed up at the Bundy made for Faux TV event this pass weekend.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)...the exponentially increasing number of cars in my neighborhood with Texas license plates. Weekends where the metal starts at 8pm, moves to hip-hop at 9, then by 12am just consists of some woman screaming something like "What part of 'NO' don't you understand, asshole? LET ME GO!" at the top of her lungs.
If things are as frikkin' great in Dallas as I keep hearing, why are Texans colonizing southern California?
I know, I know... Camp Pendleton...
SuperJew! Where are you? We need you? I'll do anything. I'll change my last name to Bergberg. Can you at least get rid of Issa?
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts).......that they have the right to speak freely but also the obligation to speak responsibly. I saw an interview with this shooter conducted a few years ago. He railed against government tyranny and the need to take the country back. Sound familiar ? Well, I don't know how killing 3 people will give this fool his country back but do know that the angry anti-government rhetoric from the Right convinces a fool like this to believe that he is an aggrieved victim. Irresponsible speech has consequences.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)all republicans are domestic terrorists!
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)Republicans used the KKK to get Hoover elected.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Those singing along are the kind that read his blog. (For the few that don't know, Sacha Cohen is of Jewish origin himself.)
bpj62
(999 posts)Yesterday one of my right wing Teabag "friends" on facebook posted petition page about what Steve Israel had said about their base being racist. I decided not to reply because I wasn't in the mood for a fight yesterday. So this morning I posted a comment about this incident and I haven't heard a thing. There is a genuine disconnect in that party when it comes to violence that is spawned by their own rhetoric.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)the State department, the Treasury, the whole damn government, really. The GOP AND the Donkeys.
It's endemic in this nation, a large part of the corruption we endure is based on pandering to the racists.
I just don't see the national will to come clean and return to the state of Enlightenment that founded the nation, and when confronted by racism from the Southern elite, even the Founding Fathers had to blink, and put in the 3/5 person abomination, just to get a start on a new nation.
We have a long way to go.
Cha
(297,275 posts)tblue37
(65,391 posts)students. I am so angry at these righlwing terrorists that I can't even think straight.
We know that the Nazis used hate propaganda to rile up their citizens for genocide, and the Hutus used hate radio sounding an awful lot like some of what we hear from FOX and from Limbaugh to egg listeners on to massacre their Tsusi neighbors and any Hutu sympathetic to Tsutsis.
We KNOW hate propaganda leads to this sort of thing. I believe in free speech, but I think fomenting such virulent hatred, especially over the airwaves we supposdly own, should not be considered protected speech.
rafeh1
(385 posts)all that is needed is drone terror bombing of small mainly white towns in the hinterlands to bring the kkk n frinds to alqaeda levels..
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)"...I ain't afraid of al-Qadea, I am afraid of Al Cracker!"
As much as we are told and while there is some truth to "they hate us for our freedoms," the real threat are more home grown and actually share the same 'hate' other terrorists have "they hate our freedoms." While our terrorists are less likely to actually "act out," they integrate themselves into our politics, which can be as horrible.
Anti-Semitism never goes out of vogue, not on the right, nor the left.
johnstyle
(15 posts)It is true they are even more dangerous than Al kaida.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Victims in Kansas shooting were Methodist, Catholic
They included a woman, a man and his grandson, who just happened to be visiting Jewish facilities on Sunday.
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Victims_in_Kansas_shooting_were_Methodist__Catholic_.html
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)When the third victim was thought to be Jewish, it was reported on white supremacist sites as "two whites and a Jew (if they were nice)" were killed. They are really angry now because a traitor (he turned in several members of the Klan to cut a deal for an earlier crime) killed all white people. Though I haven't checked, I imagine this is now believed to be a "false flag" and the killer will be called a "secret Jew".