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pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:05 AM Apr 2014

spying timeline

Very good outline is here:

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

It goes all the way back to Dec. 15, 1791.

Apologists claim that spying is OK because the founders made no mention of the internet.

It's the same argument the NRA uses to say the "founders" didn't say you can't own a machine gun or rocket launcher.

It's also the same argument that climate change deniers use when they deny man made global warming, "there is no evidence or consensus that the Earth is warming because of human activity".

Republicans do not have a monopoly on bad policy or bad people.


The Bill of Rights, Including the Fourth Amendment, Goes Into Effect
Dec 15, 1791

The Fourth Amendment reads: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."


They saw it coming, over two hundred years ago; unchecked government power seizing communications, property, prosecuting dissenters, whistle blowers, reporters...

Now we are ruled by an oligarchy of millionaires and billionaires who fully understand what a threat those words are to their ambitions and power.

History repeats itself. It is only going to get worse from here.

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spying timeline (Original Post) pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 OP
Can I be first? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #1
Even if they are spying, which, of course, they are not, but in theory, if they are spying on us pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #2
 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
2. Even if they are spying, which, of course, they are not, but in theory, if they are spying on us
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:54 AM
Apr 2014

they are not stealing our data.

They are stealing our data along with data about our data...

See the difference?

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