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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeople In Texas Really Don't Want To Leave, While People In Illinois Want To Flee
http://www.businessinsider.com/states-where-people-want-to-move-2014-5Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)republican office holders. I love the state.
GOPee
(58 posts)When we were forced to move here, because we were transferred, I thought I wouldn't like it because of all that I heard. But, I really do like the people I've met and the general attitude is considerably happier than the folks in Chicago.
I really miss my friends and family back home but they are happy to come and visit us in the winter.. hahaha I really don't feel the politics here, at least not yet, but it has been 3 years, and we are actually saving for retirement because the prices are a lot better, and the work is steady. Go figure.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)good people. i like how the town was put together. i get a lot of house for the dollar.
it is not a bad place to live.
and i am looking to colorado.
GOPee
(58 posts)This is crazy, but I almost feel guilty liking Texas, with everything the State stands for in the broader picture, but the overall attitude with the people is great, at least with my personal experience. I think I'll put the politics aside, and I'll take the guilt over the stifling economic conditions, horrible weather, and rapid crime back in Chicago. I'm sorry, but it's true.
TBF
(32,090 posts)we'll likely stay put until the kids graduate. My spouse and I dream of moving back into the city (in this case Houston). Arts, restaurants, sports - I have really grown to like Houston itself. In fact I could probably do well in any coastal city so it really isn't bad. I can do without the politics of course, but I was thrilled when I found out there are a few other rebel communists in this town. I read their blogs regularly and feel less alone
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)But I am here. My cost-of-living is very low and I have a part-time legal job that is very well paid. No income tax.
So great economy, safe, and cheap.
But it is so fricking in-your-face conservative/Republican I want puke.
Even my Rabbi is Republican.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Last edited Thu May 1, 2014, 11:11 PM - Edit history (1)
the beauty of the cherry blossoms in Newark, the weeping willows in my town park, the calm of the beach in November when I am with my dog. As I age, I can walk to the doctor and dentist. The hospital is a $5 taxi ride away. I have available mass transit for when I stop driving, I have friends of all ages and I am probably going to outlive most of them, but I keep making new ones. I can deal with the politics, I understand and can deal wit our brand of cooks.I know people who have moved away and regret it, but now they can't afford to buy back their houses.
edited to remove poorly worded joke.
I will tell you that some guy in Arizona got mad when I asked him to point his gun away from me when he sat at the next table and put his gun on the table pointing at me. I think accidents can happen. He should have put it in his pants so I would not care if you have an accident there. I didn't say that, but I sure thought it. he yelled at me enough for asking that it not point to me.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)in red state does not have compassion? Where is my popcorn?
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Last edited Thu May 1, 2014, 11:45 PM - Edit history (1)
Which would lead one to conclude that there is a lower overall level of compassion among the population.
No compassion? Unlikely. Less compassion? Very likely.
ananda
(28,876 posts)That's been my experience anyway. Lots of love, support, and fun for
the tribe; none for the "other."
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Texas has one of the worst voter turnouts and registration of any state. States with high voter turnout tend to go for Democrats.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I think states do have cultures, and even if you like the area, you could come across not fitting in. One person on the east shore of Maryland said it takes about 50 years for someone to be accepted. It is beautiful there, but I don't ave 50 more years.
I guess what I should say is that I am pretty open with what I believe and I think I have only one neighbor has a mutual dislike with me. I think they are selfish pushie people who keep trespassing on my lawn but won't let me on theirs to trim our mutual bush, they want to dig it out, I don't even want to look at them. I have caught them more than once removing my personal property - read large trees and shrubs and plants and putting their fence on my lawn. They think I don't keep a perfect lawn and have too many shrubs. I don't use chemicals and like a natural look. Anyway. I have been told by friends of my friends who live in different states that I would never fit in. Apparently in some places in some red states, they are not very nice if you don't got religion. If I stay in North Jersey, no one cares.
Most states do not have good transportation systems, I think NYC, Chicago and even parts of Atlanta are good, but not a lot of places. Certainly not door to door like my town provides to seniors.
All places have beauty, but not many within walking distance or bus distance, or a very short car ride.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)That was all I was asking. Thank you very much.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
dilby
(2,273 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)...hell, in December EVERYBODY wants to leave Washington.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)alp227
(32,052 posts)since "Desire to move" is pretty damn high in a bunch of Southeastern states too, and California has less "desire to move" than Illinois.
I do love Maryland. However, when I retire....Florida!!!!! For sure. What a great state. So much to do and the weather is great (most of the time).
pipoman
(16,038 posts)So many dumbasses I would feel like a freaking genius. ..
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)lol. We both would be considered Einsteins for sure.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)after all the zany FloridaMan exploits, no wonder
B Calm
(28,762 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)What the heck is keeping them there, then?
But even in Texas, about 1 in 4 wants to leave the state.
Even that seems high to me.
I have lived in
South Carolina
South Dakota
Minnesota
Utah
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Missouri
Kansas
In Minnesota the spring weather was awful, the Twin Cities were too big (for my taste) and the people too arrogant (maybe it was just college students). In Iowa the people were sorta provincial. Most of the people had grown up there and were not all that welcoming to outsiders.
But otherwise, they all seemed like decent states. Except South Carolina, where I only lived on a technicality, from the age of 0 to 2.3.
But I love it because it is my home state, even though I understand it is loaded with water moccasins and queen snakes.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)I like it here--it's home.
Exposethefrauds
(531 posts)Me I have no use for Texas so I could careless if people want to move there or not.
Perhaps enough liberals and progressives will move there and fix the place but I doubt it.
It would be interesting to see all the demographics of the people queried for this poll. I would not be surprised to see that of those that want to go to Texas skew heavily white, fundy, and conservative, Southern Il is very conservative. Typically those who live in a more progressive place do not want to live in a regressive place unless they are unhappy with living in a progressive place because they are a regressive type person.
I have lived in liberal states and regressive states and from my experience those that do not like living in a liberal/progressive place is usually conservative and regressive person. It is only natural to want to live in a place and with people who share your values.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Exposethefrauds
(531 posts)This is based up my personal experience.........Your mileage may very
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin. Over 3 million votes for Obama in the state in 2012. The national Democratic Party looks like it's going to write off Texas yet again as a lost cause in 2014 (with plenty of support for that stance from the Texas Haters here at DU). That's all right---people moving in from other parts of the country are going to pull the state out of its hyper-red status sooner rather than later.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)from. There is nothing about 'those who want to go to Texas' just about people who are there and don't care to leave as compared to the number who live in other places and would like to move from them. Where they move to is not part of the question at all.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...to suggestions....
Paladin
(28,272 posts)You chronic Texas Haters: fucking deal with it.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Paladin
(28,272 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)to understand this simple concept: It's Home.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)discrimination in housing and in employment toward LGBT people. Chronic haters? I'd suggest that the folks who maintain laws against others are doing the chronic.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)Any guesses as to why people there want to move? New England is a nice place.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)unblock
(52,317 posts)plus connecticut is pretty expensive, particularly fairfield county.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)between taxes, gas prices and the price of housing, if you aren't making $40,000 it's hard to live in your own place in a decent neighborhood.
Last time I talked to to a co-worker in TX, housing was about 40% cheaper then CT. For a lot of people in CT or IL moving to TX would be like getting a $5,000-8,000 raise.
Tikki
(14,559 posts)are just biding their time until they can retire from companies that relocated to texas.
Most of these families have kept property in Washington State and will return as soon as they can.
My cousin and his family..one of the families I am mentioning...told me he knows every route between
where he is in texas now and what he calls his home near Seattle. He told me he's driven it enough he could
probably drive it in his sleep.
Tikki
Kingofalldems
(38,475 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)It's nice here and certainly has its own distinct beauty, but I sure miss Oregon. When my husband retires, we'll probably move to a more moderate climate.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)In 20 years in Florida I've come to realize that the number who immigrated here is likely much greater than I usually see estimated and most are pretty sophisticated in their underground communities.
I work daily with people from Italy, Poland, Brazil, Korea, Argentina, Cuba, and Turkey - and they all came here illegally or on some outdated visa. I think it's a common myth that the undocumented are only boarder crashers from Mexico, but I doubt there's a clear way to know. No one is leaving and they stay in Florida because it's a vast economic system that avoids scrutiny, pays no state income tax, and accepts the fact that no one is leaving. Over the last 10 years, the international population here continues to increase and it's easy to see. Haha..my wife's hairdresser is from Great Britain and openly says she overstayed her visa years ago.
I suspect that in states where undocumented folks are accepted they won't go anywhere, but also don't answer surveys...
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)believe it or not. It's the very low humidity. We are slowly turning blue too. I most certainly am not here for the people. Still too many old, set in their way, so called conservative. Or FOX news ignorant. Love their government farm subsidies that their family's have gotten for several generations, so they can continue to pass on the family ranch land that their great great granddaddy homesteaded or bought for 10 cents an acre. But food stamps are a hand out to bums.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)But would go to the west coast, or NM, CO or MD in a heartbeat. Guess I'm a contrarian.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)Another bullsh!t poll.
No suggestion as to WHY these people might want to move or stay.
And then to try to draw some conclusion from it? Along lines that aren't even specified?
Extrapolating from an unknown.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)not spending most of their income in rent on a 400 square foot apartment.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)n/t
otohara
(24,135 posts)and ski somewhere else besides CO.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)mispredicted the last two elections because of this bias, and was dumped by both USAToday and Cnn as a result of this bias an inaccuracy.
Why make it about Illinois anyway. Illinois is run by right wing CENTRIST dems, so it isn't a model of liberalism.