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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Sat May 3, 2014, 09:40 PM May 2014

"Reality be dammed. We don't need no stinkin' reality. Slut-shaming is so much easier than balance."

They have taken a story about a racist billionaire slumlord who made his coin off of denying the rights of minorities and turned it into a story about an unemployed black woman using her body to take away his freedom of speech, right to privacy and hard-earned business.
Reality be dammed. We don't need no stinkin' reality. Slut-shaming is so much easier than balance.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/03/1296564/-The-Shameless-Slut-Shaming-of-V-Stiviano


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"Reality be dammed. We don't need no stinkin' reality. Slut-shaming is so much easier than balance." (Original Post) babylonsister May 2014 OP
Well said. The woman is always blamed. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #1
When was the last time. . . . Tansy_Gold May 2014 #2
Athletes bring something to the table individually, their physical prowess. babylonsister May 2014 #3
Stiviano brought something to the table indiviually, her physical appearance Tansy_Gold May 2014 #5
Looks are not the same as ability. babylonsister May 2014 #7
It's the hand she was dealt Tansy_Gold May 2014 #10
Yep He was called a racist, and the reply was she is a prostitute lunasun May 2014 #4
Crazy world. nt babylonsister May 2014 #8
The ones who are blaming stiviano and locdlib May 2014 #6
Yeah, it's lifting up the rock they're crawling out of. Cha May 2014 #9
HER "reality" is the only one that counts? rocktivity May 2014 #11
No, they are all in it for the dough, one way or the other. babylonsister May 2014 #12

Tansy_Gold

(17,857 posts)
2. When was the last time. . . .
Sat May 3, 2014, 10:06 PM
May 2014

. . . .you read anything shaming athletes for cashing in on their few years of top level playing ability? Aren't they essentially selling their bodies for the big bucks while they can?

But let a woman do it. . . . . . or even appear to be doing it. . . . .



babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
3. Athletes bring something to the table individually, their physical prowess.
Sat May 3, 2014, 10:12 PM
May 2014

I never had that and appreciate those that do.

I think it's totally different than this.

Tansy_Gold

(17,857 posts)
5. Stiviano brought something to the table indiviually, her physical appearance
Sat May 3, 2014, 10:52 PM
May 2014

Sterling's an old man, he's got money, he buys her companionship because she's pretty and she makes him feel good about himself.

Regardless what the rest of the relationship is or isn't, why is her cashing in on her physical attributes "shameful" but an athlete cashing in on his (or her) physical attributes not shameful at all?

An athlete trains and takes physical risks, this is true. But my point is -- and I'm agreeing with the article in the OP -- is that the slut-shaming goes deeper. It's not just this one woman. It's any woman who dares to negotiate her own price in the bodily marketplace. Maybe she's more blatant about it, and maybe luckier than most in that she got paid well by Sterling, but will she be any better off in 10 or 15 years than some of the athletes who bartered their physical attributes for a few years and a few million dollars, only to end up with bad knees and bankruptcy?

Sterling was quoted somewhere -- and I don't know how reliable the source was -- as saying he should've just paid her off. Was that a hint that she was supposedly blackmailing him? Or was he just bitter because he had screwed up? He'll make a killing on the sale of the team (if he lives that long) and his wife will get half. She's lived with him and put up with his bullshit for 50+ years and has been handsomely compensated for whatever insults and humiliation she's had to endure. Stiviano maybe has put up with a lot, too, and she won't get nearly as much.

I hope she manages what she does get well.

Tansy_Gold

(17,857 posts)
10. It's the hand she was dealt
Sun May 4, 2014, 12:19 AM
May 2014

Same as brains or musical talent or anything else.

There are athletes out there who can't speak in complete sentences. There are others who are Rhodes scholars. If they choose to cash in on one, don't they have that right, regardless what else they might have?

The point I'm trying to make, and apparently failing at badly, is that if Stiviano weren't physically attractive, she probably wouldn't have been with Sterling in the first place, but even if she were plain, she probably wouldn't be slut-shamed the way she is. She's being shamed less because of what she did and more because of what she is, how she looks, and how she used her looks. The same thing isn't done to athletes, or indeed to most men who barter their looks.

All of us come into the game of life with certain assets, and we have to figure out how best to use those assets to get us through. Some of us have athletic ability, some of us just have good looks. (I have neither, so I guess I should be jealous.) As long as there's nothing illegal involved, there should be no shame involved either.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
11. HER "reality" is the only one that counts?
Sun May 4, 2014, 01:16 AM
May 2014

Last edited Fri Jun 7, 2019, 08:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Everybody has hurt and traumatized him except her? They've discussed race before but he's not a racist? We should believe there was no sex involved simply because she said so -- or was the problem that he wasn't able to? And how do we know that she didn't give (or more likely sell) a copy of the audio to a FOURTH party so she could "truthfully" say that SHE didn't leak it?


rocktivity

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
12. No, they are all in it for the dough, one way or the other.
Sun May 4, 2014, 01:33 AM
May 2014

Sigh. Such a mundane life I lead, but I like going to bed with a clear conscience.

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