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(1,563 posts)
Sun May 4, 2014, 03:14 AM May 2014

Let's Face It (Snowden)

If Snowden revealed what he did and fled the United States under the Bush administration the Democrat anti-Snowden folks would be at the very least reluctantly defending him. That they do not is pure tribalism and a disgrace to all lovers of liberty.

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(31,230 posts)
2. How do you know what "Democrat anti-Snowden folks" would be doing?
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:59 AM
May 2014

And tribalism, as you call it, is what we do here. Otherwise, there'd be no reason for the "partisan" rules called the TOS.

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(24,544 posts)
5. ((Rubbing my eyes))
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:06 AM
May 2014

Didn't I see this exact same OP posted yesterday? Or was it the day before? The day before that???

Funny what some label "propaganda" around here, ain't it? Posting the same thing over and over and over and over again is just speaking "troof to powa" but posting in support of the Democratic president/administration on an DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTING web site is a crime guilty of the stasi.

I get the feeling that some are upset that (on this issue at least) DU lines up with a sizeable majority of Americans and doesn't consider Snowden a hero. Dare to mention that a large majority want him jailed as well and folks really seem to lose it.


(31,230 posts)
6. They're pissed that Snowie's PR campaign has been an EPIC fail, here in the US.
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:00 AM
May 2014

With each new accolade his supporters purchase, his numbers continue to tank. Two thirds of Americans feel exactly as we do. That includes Democrats, Republicans and Indies. An equal number want his ass dragged back to the States, and prosecuted.

I'm so sick of these Johnny-Come-Latelys' stirring up shit here. We know who they are. Twenty posts in, and they're already trashing the party, the administration, and anyone who supports either. It seems to completely escape them that this is not a Yahoo message board, but one with a partisan mission, and the TOS clearly state that.

Fuck the USSR Snowden, and all who sail in him. Besides, didn't Wikileaks just confirm that it was no accident how he wound up in Mother Russia?


(1,763 posts)
14. awww its so cute when you call him "snowie"
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:08 AM
May 2014

its like with your small act heroism (primary school taunt) he's rendered harmless to your hyperpartisan narrative!


(90,335 posts)
3. Drake deads this thread and many pro Snowden threads. He did the same as Snowden without...
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:01 AM
May 2014

... leaking to US adversaries overseas and was only charged with a misdemeanor from Obama admin.

Snowden on the other hand has shown to out and out just lie about whether or not he tried to go through proper channels and out and out started giving data and info to US adversaries overseas like Russia and China.

What does telling Germany we spy on their prime minister have to do with the US 4th amendment!?

... then prop a overtly LGBT hater like Putin in the open.

You guys can keep supporting Snowden, he's show FACTUALLY that he's not a good character overall the aforementioned actions



(34,845 posts)
9. Let's face it...
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:19 AM
May 2014

...when Bush was President, Snowden said leakers should be shot in the balls. If you want to go this route, it works both ways, BlindTiresias.
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