Monica fa-chrissakes Lewisnky is back in the news again.

[WilliamPitt]

Monica Lewinsky is back in the news again, claiming that the internet and the president and basically everyone took advantage of her, and all the networks and newspapers are running with it while giggling like titmice. While I do agree that the internet chewed her up and shat her out, and while to this day I want to hit President Clinton with a folding chair for fooling around with the staffer when he knew the entire GOP was actively out for his blood, and while I know for certain that her sudden arrival on the scene again is no coincidence...

...the fact remains that I WILL SMASH ALL OF THE THINGS IF I HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO YEARS OF MONICA LEWINSKY/WHITEWATER/VINCE FOSTER/TRAVELGATE/PENIS PENIS PENIS COVERAGE BECAUSE THE USELESS SHITBAGS IN THE "NEWS" MEDIA DON'T ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WORKING FOR A LIVING.

And note well, all ye Democrats who haz a giggly about Hillary Clinton running in 2016: that is EXACTLY what will happen. We will spend the next 700 days on that shit if she is in the race, with a few detours into Benghaziville, and there is nothing in the world you or anyone can do about it. The media is what it is. This will happen. Today's Monica eruption is but the tip of a very large iceberg looming out there just off the forward bow.

So file this under "Caveat," sub-section "Be careful what you wish for."

Just sayin'.

[TeeYiYi]

1. Heh heh... You said, "titmice." ..nt

TYY

[bigtree]

2. meh

. . . it's either this stuff with Hillary, or some other nonsense trumped up to suit ANY other Democrat who dares challenge the GOP. 'Asking for it' is nothing more than choosing to support ANY Democratic candidate. Get used to it.


Whitewater was shamelessly leveraged off of a good man's suicide
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024915484

[B2G]

3. Blame Bill

Hope he's hidden all of the ashtrays.

[Quackers]

56. Oh, burn! nt

[gollygee]

4. I don't get the point of her coming back now

Is the idea that people shouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton because her husband cheated on her? I don't see how she's relevant.

[WilliamPitt]

6. Easy.

2016 2016 2016 instead of 2014. Midterms are roundly ignored. Besides, this is red meat on a hook to the media.

[lake loon]

34. ... and ALL the idiot media are on this

You'd think some alien space bimbo just landed on top of that missing plane.

[pangaia]

43. You don't see how she's relevant

because you are a democrat with a brain.
She is relevant because of
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, they hate Hillary. A woman with a brain. Almost as bad as a black guy, especially with a brain.

[Blue_Tires]

50. Because media are going to be shelling out big bucks for interviews

with big ratings in mind...And despite all her claims to the contrary (even back in 1998), she absolutely loves the spotlight...

[Nevernose]

58. One, she just turned 40

I imagine that has something to do with it.

Two, I imagine she's looking for a payday. Vanity Fair, other magazines, talk shows, radio shows, et cetera: all those people pay.

[BeyondGeography]

7. That was a fine argument

seven or eight years ago.

[Boomerproud]

8. You are spot-on.

I had another rant about it in another thread so I won't repeat myself except to say...Go To Hell CNN!!!

[B2G]

9. Why She’s Going Public

Why She’s Going Public

When Tyler Clementi, the 18-year-old Rutgers freshman who was secretly streamed via Webcam kissing another man, committed suicide in September 2010, Lewinsky writes, she was brought to tears, but her mother was especially distraught: “She was reliving 1998, when she wouldn’t let me out of her sight. She was replaying those weeks when she stayed by my bed, night after night, because I, too, was suicidal. The shame, the scorn, and the fear that had been thrown at her daughter left her afraid that I would take my own life—a fear that I would be literally humiliated to death.” Lewinsky clarifies that she has never actually attempted suicide, but had strong suicidal temptations several times during the investigations and during one or two periods after.

Lewinsky writes that following Clementi’s tragedy “my own suffering took on a different meaning. Perhaps by sharing my story, I reasoned, I might be able to help others in their darkest moments of humiliation. The question became: How do I find and give a purpose to my past?” She also says that, when news of her affair with Clinton broke in 1998, not only was she arguably the most humiliated person in the world, but, “thanks to the Drudge Report, I was also possibly the first person whose global humiliation was driven by the Internet.” Her current goal, she says, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”

[greymattermom]

10. and I'm sure she's getting paid

A LOT of Koch money

[B2G]

12. She could have made a hell of a lot more years ago

So I doubt it.

I also fail to see how this will hurt Hillary, since she was universally seen as the victim in all of this.

[truebrit71]

17. It will hurt her because the reichwing will use it to attack her...

...along the lines of "Do you really want Bill Clinton back in the WH?"....

[ancianita]

13. Follow the money, see if this old, stale story is the reason. I bet she's the front of a PR campaign

[misterhighwasted]

15. Check the timing of this. CNN has already put the thought in the viewers teeny brains:

They asked this morning how Lewinsky's emergence will affect Hillary's Presidential Campaign.
Jackpot Payday for Monica.

Chelsea & Hillary are the only victims of the humiliation that followed. Monica didn't give a $hit.

[ancianita]

16. See? Now, was that really so hard for Pitt? This is a big fat PRarty.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. CNN is not the only network to ask that question. MSNBC did it too, this mid-morning. I

can't remember which show but I'm pretty sure it was somewhere between Tamron and Joy.

[misterhighwasted]

14. Except Tyler Clementi did nothing to deserve his fate. Mz Lewinsky knew Bill Clinton was a married

man. Didn't stop her from forging on with her mission.
She dares to compare in any way her humiliation that she brought on by her own desire to have an affair with a married man, to Tyler Clementi. Lowlife Monica. So much for Monicas poor innocent girl moral compass.
Did either Monica or Bill ever think of Hillary & Chelsea?
Yes, the family Ms Lewinsky never was a part of but had no regard for in their humiliation & destruction?

Hillary & Chelsea, the wife & daughter of the man Monica Lewinsky was showing her thong to in the Oval Office, were the only real victims of humiliation.

Cue the GOP smear machine.
Yes Will Pitt, until November 2016.
Good timing Monica. How much will she make off this media blitz?

Go Away. The story of innocence & unfair humiliation belongs to Hillary & Chelsea Clinton.

[distantearlywarning]

33. Yep, I agree.

Self-inflicted misery on Monica's part.

If she really wants to move past that sordid, sad part of her life, perhaps she shouldn't be giving interviews about it all these years later.

This is just more PR anti-Hillary bullshit. Somebody is dredging up Ms. Lewinsky in an effort to taint Hillary's campaign.

[misterhighwasted]

36. Linda Tripp. Haven't heard from her since she collected her bag full of dirty money & got a nose job

She may just be dusted off & paraded out there with Lewinsky before the 2016 election.
I'm guessing they will save her for the REAL STORY America's just dying to know..again.

S.O.B.'s

[Whisp]

52. and Bill knew he was a married man too.

The double standard writ LARRRRRRGE.

but blame the woman, she's the evil one. He on the other hand is an undignified liar and cheat, but that's ok man! What's a red blooded guy to do if it's offered!

[misterhighwasted]

61. Yes of course. However Bill isn't the one out toting a book & claiming how he was used by everyone.

Bill Clinton is not the one splayed across a magazine cover.
Bill Clinton isn't out on a media news blitz comparing his self proclaimed innocence to that of Tyler Clementi.

This crock of crap is solely brought to us by Monica Lewinsky & those who wish to intimidate & re-victimize & humiliate Hillary & Chelsea Clinton.
This isn't about Bill.
Jeb talks about running for President & Benghazi is being investigated now with a lopsided 7-5 panel favoring Republicans.
Jeb talks of a Presidential bid & Monica Lewinski shows up selling her innocence & victimization & humiliation. And Effin comparing herself to Tyler Clementi.

OMFG!! Wow Monica. Low down snake you are.
Bill Clinton wasn't the only one in the scandal. He had help. You were in it up to your neck lady.
I call BS & William Pitt is correct in saying this wil be dragged out until the election of 2016.
Monica wan no victim. Monica created a case for her own humiliation.
Tyler Clementi did not.
Hillary & Chelsea Clinton did not.

Monica Lewinsky is a taker.
Capitalizing nicely on the game she played with Bill Clinton.

Chelsea & Hillary were the victims.
Monica was in it for the thrill. The game.
She is a bald faced liar in this latest media blitz.

I have no pity for her ilk.

She was no victim of anything.

[Whisp]

67. yikes

[tblue37]

76. ML bragged to friends that she was headed to DC to earn her

"Presidential kneepads," so her humiliation was not something visited on her innocent self from out of the blue.

Clinton was an idiot, but ML also aggressively stalked him specifcally because she knew he was someone who had a long history if not being able to keep it in his pants.

That being said, though, she was 22, and he was middle-aged. The brain does not finish developing unntil about 25, and the part that is still immature at 22 is the part that controls impulse and takes into consideration the long-term consequences of one's actions.

IOW, there is *some* excuse for her immature behavior, none for his.

A pox on both their houses, though. (And on John Edwards, too, while I am at it.)

[Enthusiast]

73. I've got a bridge to sell you.

[ancianita]

11. This isn't about fuckin' Lewinsky, Pitt. It's about making Dems ashamed of Clinton as their man

on the campaign trail during either 2014 or 2016. They'll keep paying this woman until our side offers her more just to shut up.

So why don't we offer her more? And why don't we OUT HER MONEY TRAIL.

I'm surprised at the willingness to jump on her and everything but the ones paying her!

[misterhighwasted]

18. Of course it is. And they know in the end Benghazi will go nowhere.

GOP will use the same MO that garnered them success for the last Bush selected.
Here we go again.
Follow the money. Who's paying Monica?
UGH..

[Frustratedlady]

28. I've always been a believer she was a GOP plant.

I don't know who was paying her, but someone sure was. Also, the gal who pulled all the information out of her...forget her name. She was definitely a convenient source. Is she still alive? Did Monica ever get married?

[bvar22]

19. A good BJ never dies,

but I really wish THAT one would just fade away.
I wonder if they will drag out the Blue Dress?
I believe we can COUNT on it if Hillary is the nominee.


Presidential Politics long ago became a Media Driven HomeComing Court Event,
and NOT about The ISSUES.

Control of the presidential debates has been a ground of struggle for more than two decades. The role was filled by the nonpartisan League of Women Voters (LWV) civic organization in 1976, 1980 and 1984. In 1987, the LWV withdrew from debate sponsorship, in protest of the major party candidates attempting to dictate nearly every aspect of how the debates were conducted. On October 2, 1988, the LWV's 14 trustees voted unanimously to pull out of the debates, and on October 3 they issued a press release:

[font size=3]" The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."[/font]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_debates

"the hoodwinking of the American public"
I have not seen a more apt description of Corporate Duopoly Politics.
In 2012, MSNBC Debate Analysis featured a category called "Best Zingers" to help America decide who "won" the debate.
This criteria was also heavily featured at DU.


I'm glad I'm old and grow my own food.

[Dawson Leery]

20. How much are the Koch's paying her?

[yellowcanine]

21. I didn't even know she had a middle name and who gives their kid a name like that?

[rhett o rick]

22. If you want another of the Bush family in the WH, nominate H. Clinton. nm

Last edited Tue May 6, 2014, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited. Wording wasnt the best.

[msanthrope]

31. How? HRC beats Jeb in every poll. Every one. nt

[Lancero]

75. Hillary Clinton is a member of the Bush family?

Huh. Didn't know that.

[rhett o rick]

78. Is that a statement in the form of a question? As far as I know they arent related.

H. Clinton represents Wall Street. We can not survive the Wall Street run government. Time for Change. Real Change.

[NightWatcher]

23. Heeeeeere Comes Jeb

No, it's not a shitty sitcom, but the groundwork for another fucking Bush Presidency.

They're going to impeach Obama around the midterm elections (either before, but I think just after).. He'll survive but it doesn't really matter anymore.

Monica is back in the news after more than ten years of silence. Hillary is going to be dragged through the mud again because of (how you so eloquently stated) PENIS, VINCE FOSTER....

And off in the corner, getting the band back together, are the Neocon death merchants who have tired of the uncontrollable, batshit crazy, TeaBaggers and this time (JUST LIKE THEY'VE DONE SINCE 19 FUCKING 79) are going to run Bush DNA, that they can control and profit from.

So get ready folks, Heeeere Comes Jebby

?w=899&h=650&crop=1

[napkinz]

25. :)

[misterhighwasted]

26. Its all in Papa Bush's plan. Jeb heralds in The New (Third Reich) World Order.

Fool us once..fool us twice..Fool us three times..

[napkinz]

30. love the WHO!

[Enthusiast]

74. Third time is the charm?

[kelliekat44]

24. Wonder how the GOP coughed up for her reappearance. ( IN LEW)insky of Benghazi, maybe? nt

[Reformed Bully]

27. 2016 Obama - Biden

Michelle & Jill

[lululu]

48. 2016 Biden Uncle Joe

[Benton D Struckcheon]

29. Ah yes, oldies time.

Monica, Whitewater, Benghazi...
There must be others. I'm sure we're missing a few.

[Louisiana1976]

57. Well said.

[951-Riverside]

32. What she was involved in happens millions of times a day! Why is this still a big deal?

When you're wealthy or famous or have access, this happens A LOT more than we'd like to admit. Some rich families have "open marriages" and don't give a crap.

...THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! happened and we're still talking about Monica Blowinsky?

[KamaAina]

37. Well, it's not like a Clinton is running for office or anything.

[rudolph the red]

38. "I WILL SMASH ALL OF THE THINGS"

[WilliamPitt]

39. Nipped from a Hyperbole and a Half cartoon

Emphasis on hyperbole: obvious and intentional exaggeration. Noun.

Lots of folks around here do about as well with hyperbole as they do with Sanskrit.

[rudolph the red]

40. Gotcha, thanks.

[TBF]

41. She has excellent timing -

Hillary's book is coming out next month. What a coincidence ...

[Warren DeMontague]

42. 20-25 years is about the life cycle for shit to go from new, to tiresome, to forgotten, to "retro"

You have been warned.

[Agony]

44. "USELESS SHITBAGS IN THE (entertainment cum) "NEWS" MEDIA

DON'T ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WORKING FOR A LIVING."

GAWD doesn't that sum it up nicely!

although, it might be said, the entertainment cum news corporations don't feel like spending any money actually supporting journalists/journalism.

[madinmaryland]

45. Will. They tried this shit 20 years ago. Hillary did not have any relations with

that woman, nor did she ever meet her. What do they have on her?

Benghazi, HealthCare, Vince Foster (yeah, we had all forgotten about that), Whitewater???

As hard as those assholes have tried, they are still the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world.

And don't forget that Richard Mellon Scaife (aka, the funder of the Arkansas Project) is now going through his own nasty divorce, which is music to my ears and to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette!! The divorce has been dragging out for years now.

[misterhighwasted]

63. Oh Geez HIM! I had forgotten all about that sub-species.

Bill Clinton was a man of the people. The poor and the African American people loved him.
DIng Ding Ding..The same racial shit that took MLK, and Robert Kennedy are still operating at the core of the GOP today. Teabillies or whatever fringe they congregate within.

They are still the party of White Supremacy..KKK..& believe in suppression of any race other than theirs..and the poor and of course WOMEN.

My lord..see what Demons the mere mention of Richard Mellon Scaiffe, brings out in a person..

[JanMichael]

46. Did you read what she wrote? Do you consider yourself a feminist?

?

[Whisp]

54. only when convenient. apparently. n/t

[lululu]

47. She was 22, he was 50 and her boss

This turned her into a joke for the rest of her life. The fact that Hillary is still with Bill says something about Hill's judgement (which is lousy anyway.)

[JanMichael]

49. This story says nothing about Hillary's judgement

which has always been fairly good. Get a grip, and get out of 1962.

[WinkyDink]

82. Puh-leeze. ML was an adult who flashed her thong at an older man (she had had an affair with a

teacher, also).

And Hillary should have divorced her husband? Is DIVORCE now the "FAMILY VALUES" preference?

GIVE IT UP.

[Mike Nelson]

51. She must be...

...running out of money.

[misterhighwasted]

65. yes. and Jebbie's poll numbers need a bump.

Thus the Lewinsky "I'm a victim of my own humiliating behavior" card must be played.

[dembotoz]

53. monica just trying to make a buck-she has pretty much been ruined

what career options does she have

she had potential--being a white house intern had to look good on a resume

who is going to hire her

when you have bad options you have bad options

[Whisp]

59. and Bill has since made millions of dollars and such a jolly good fellow.

no double standard here, folks. None at all!

Listen to yourselves. Ugh.

[misterhighwasted]

64. What double standard? No one here is cannonizing sainthood upon Bill Clinton.

Never mind. You believe & stand for whatever you want.

Monica Lewinsky's behavior caused her own humiliation.
She is no victim.
Hillary was.
Chelsea was.
Tyler Clementi was.

[Whisp]

68. Bill victimized his family, not Monica.

and it wasn't the first time.

but whatever, boys will be boys.

[misterhighwasted]

80. "Let it Go, Let It Go.." la la la la la la

Have a nice day.

[WinkyDink]

83. What's it to you, if "his family" has come to terms with his behavior?

[Whisp]

85. and what's it to you about what I think of that whole mess?

Bill is a liar and a cheater. Fact.

Is this the only thing he lied and cheated about? Doubt it. It's part of his character but if he's a Dem, let's all forgive and forget and paint stories that make it all better in our minds.

[Mister Ed]

55. Do I understand correctly?

Are you suggesting that Dems ought not nominate Hillary Clinton because if we do, the Republicans will smear her?

Because I'm thinking, well, we could nominate a decorated combat veteran, but then, you know, there's that Swiftboat thing.

I suppose we could always nominate a black man, but if we did, then the next thing you know they'd be trying to convince the public that he was an imposter and usurper who was actually born in Kenya or someplace.

No. No. A thousand times no. We should not let such screaming, smearing, scurrilous, deceitful scumbags influence our selection of a nominee.

[MisterP]

71. TPP and decades of warmongering "muscular liberalism" is what should do her in!

[Springslips]

60. Chill people chill

She's a historical figure who had a birthdate. Stop seeing things that are not there.

[Auntie Bush]

62. So you're willing to let this dispicable woman drive one of our viable candidates off the ticket.

That SUCKS! You'd be willing to let them get away with this because YOU don't want to hear their shit. If we and the media ignore her nonsense maybe she just might fade away. Fat chance! It's reactions like this that gives FOX ammunition...just what the crazies want...and you're falling for it! You're helping the Rethugs get rid of Hillary! Thanks!

[muntrv]

66. Oh No! The Clenis is back!

[libodem]

69. Hillary is going to need a yellow rain slicker

Over her wetsuit for the impending shitshow. She apparently doesn't need or want a private life.

I dislike seeing someone I respect be abused but that is not her problem it's mine. I'll try to buck up.

[dsc]

70. yeah we have had 6 years of total bliss under Obama in this regard

we haven't heard about Kenya, or Bengazi, or Obama's pastor, or Obama's dog, or Michelle, or well I could go on. We could nominate Jesus and the GOP would tell the only reason the man was walking on water was because he couldn't swim.

[Enthusiast]

72. This cannot be a coincidence.

Will there be an appearance by Ken Star? Maybe he will appear on the Sunday Morning talk shows. Maybe they can find Paula Jones to interview.

[WinkyDink]

79. And HRC will still win. Because America's BT, DT with ML.

[Jemon]

81. Did Monica say Bill took advantage of her?

Quote please.

[WinkyDink]

84. Let's get something straight: The man who "humiliated" HRC/Chelsea was not BC; it was Ken Starr.

KENNETH STARR probed for the salacious details, threatening both ML and her mother.
Starr's deputies threatened not only Lewinsky, but also her mother, Marcia Lewis. During Lewinsky's 12-hour interrogation on January 16, 1998, after she had walked into the trap sprung by Linda Tripp, Lewinsky was told that her mother could face charges of obstruction of justice.....
At one point FBI agents told her she could not call her lawyer, Francis Carter, because their case was "time sensitive."
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/lew-m06.html

KENNETH STARR then proceeded to publish those details in a book.

KENNETH STARR led the prosecution of a President over a sexual dalliance, AGAIN probing for salacious details.
Starr was not able to ask all the questions he wanted to before the predetermined time expired and Clinton refused to extend, according to the sources. Starr, sources said, told Clinton he may subpoena him to get answers to the questions the president rebuffed, prompting a possible new constitutional court battle.

Clinton's attorney, David E. Kendall, said later that Clinton was justified in refusing to answer because the questions were improperly and unnecessarily graphic. "As to a very few highly intrusive questions, with respect to the specifics of this [sexual] contact, in order to preserve personal privacy and institutional dignity, he gave candid, but not detailed, answers," Kendall said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/clinton081898.htm

BILL CLINTON tried, for his own, for Monica's, and for his family's sakes, NOT ONLY to keep the affair a secret; he ALSO tried to END the affair.
Sure, he was weak; nevertheless,
"When Clinton again told Lewinsky in May 1997 that their sexual relationship was over, she redoubled efforts that began the previous year to enlist the President's assistance in finding employment."
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/clinton/clintontrialaccount.html (Graphic.)