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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:05 PM May 2014

NO radical changes to fight inequality, says Obama's Economist ....

Last edited Wed May 7, 2014, 08:22 PM - Edit history (3)

Obama’s Top Economist Has Some Problems With Piketty’s Book

The French economist Thomas Piketty’s book on the future of inequality is the buzz of the economics world this season. Now President Obama’s chief economist has weighed in on its thesis, the first time a senior administration official has discussed it in detail. And he is skeptical of some key assumptions upon which “Capital in the Twenty-First Century,” Mr. Piketty’s sweeping book, is based.

Jason Furman, the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, grappled with Mr. Piketty’s book in a speech on the global economy in Ireland on Wednesday.

Mr. Furman starts with a relatively straightforward description of Mr. Piketty’s arguments and the rise in inequality in the United States over recent decades, trying to peel apart how much of that broad story — greater inequality in income and wealth than in the past — is attributable to changes in how people are paid for their labors and how much to a shift in returns and ownership of capital.

There has been an increase in inequality within labor income, Mr. Furman argues. At the top end, superstars in fields like finance and sports are paid more than ever, both in absolute terms and relative to typical workers. Meanwhile, wages have been depressed at the middle and lower income brackets by such factors as technological change, a decline in unionization and a decline in the inflation-adjusted minimum wage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/upshot/obamas-top-economist-has-some-problems-with-pikettys-book.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-upshot&_r=0

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Translates to still no new taxes on the 1%ers and to all you who think Obama is Robin Hood, dream on ...
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NO radical changes to fight inequality, says Obama's Economist .... (Original Post) MindMover May 2014 OP
No way. A highly paid person disagrees with a tax on the wealthy? Shandris May 2014 #1
Where did the article claim that Furman is saying "no more taxes on the rich?" Vattel May 2014 #2
This translates to no more taxes on the 1%ers ... MindMover May 2014 #3
No, your "translation" is a gross exaggeration of what the article actually said. pnwmom May 2014 #5
Too late. The outrage has been launched! OBAMA!!!!! FSogol May 2014 #11
Where is a wealth tax.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? MindMover May 2014 #12
Maybe if you add a few more ?'s, you can cover over the fact jeff47 May 2014 #59
There is a huge difference between Vattel May 2014 #9
Yeah, the difference is eating generic gmo roundup foods and organic from whole foods .... MindMover May 2014 #13
Basically I am on your side, but you hurt your message with hyperbole. Vattel May 2014 #15
There is no hyperbole large enough to compare to the crassness of the greed shown in the USA ... nt MindMover May 2014 #16
True dat Vattel May 2014 #17
Well where do you live? Is the greed so much better there? nt okaawhatever May 2014 #46
I live in a state where 19% of us want to leave but we can't because we don't have enough money MindMover May 2014 #47
Some folks in this sub-thread are picking some SERIOUS nits.......... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #67
All the better to divert attention from inconvenient facts, QC May 2014 #69
You're right! The title of the post . . . brush May 2014 #18
Misleading headline ... LMAO ... MindMover May 2014 #20
You made a false claim. JoePhilly May 2014 #23
The original thread title was: "No Taxes on the Rich says Obama's Economist ...." Make7 May 2014 #35
Nope, same article, different takeaway. brush May 2014 #53
I think the point of the article is that Pres Obama doesnt plan on any radical fixes for the rhett o rick May 2014 #78
I agree Vattel May 2014 #85
Trickle Down is Buy-Partisan Octafish May 2014 #4
You win! Enthusiast May 2014 #76
It is too tough a concept for some to recognize that the plutocratic-oligarchs would cover their rhett o rick May 2014 #86
He's A Multi-Millionaire otohara May 2014 #6
A search for "No more Taxes on the Rich" at the link yields ZERO results. ( n/t ) Make7 May 2014 #7
Where is a wealth tax.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? MindMover May 2014 #14
France. Make7 May 2014 #24
Furman is highly skilled at juggling, GeorgeGist May 2014 #8
Jason Furman: "WalMart: A Progressive Success Story" QC May 2014 #10
Always funny to hear financial banksters described as 'superstars' n2doc May 2014 #19
The comfort of the rich depends on a abundant suppy of the poor. - Voltaire Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #21
That's odd ProSense May 2014 #22
Sorry that, "while scaling back breaks for the rich." MindMover May 2014 #25
Huh? ProSense May 2014 #28
Sometimes the outrage needs help ... JoePhilly May 2014 #26
The title of the OP seriously & I think dishonestly misrepresents the article. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #27
Yes, Obama's economist said that he advocates new taxes on the 1%ers ... MindMover May 2014 #29
"We should set fire to babies" says Obama's chief economist. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #30
This is what I read .... we are already setting fire to way too many children because of the greed . MindMover May 2014 #32
No he didn't say "no more taxes" frazzled May 2014 #31
Thank you for admitting the obvious ... by default. MindMover May 2014 #34
Does Furman support raising taxes at all on the 1%? abelenkpe May 2014 #33
scaling back tax breaks maybe, new taxes, no ... nt MindMover May 2014 #36
Yay, baby steps abelenkpe May 2014 #41
We don't know. The article never stated Mr. Furman's opinion on taxes. MindMover lied in the title. okaawhatever May 2014 #45
I see what you did there Sheepshank May 2014 #37
So this is not Obama's economist and he did not say what he was quoted as saying ... MindMover May 2014 #38
No he DID NOT say what you said he did. All the author states is: okaawhatever May 2014 #43
yeah...never mind. You are insisting that you are being credible and honest in the OP Sheepshank May 2014 #52
That's not even what the article said. It's all a big distortion created by MindMover. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #39
I told you that your message would be hurt by hyperbole. Vattel May 2014 #40
More like, Scaling back tax breaks maybe, new taxes, no ... nt MindMover May 2014 #42
If you can support that one with quotes from Furman, go for it. Vattel May 2014 #44
right after getting elected, Obama started backing away from repealing the Bush tax cuts Enrique May 2014 #48
and the Obama budget says 1 million and above a 30% rate ... MindMover May 2014 #49
It is possible, he says, that lower growth ... would "push in the direction of less inequality." Make7 May 2014 #50
The less inequality part because of lower growth is like saying MindMover May 2014 #51
Well I guess he didn't say that everyone's after-tax income will be exactly the same... Make7 May 2014 #54
LOL ... nt MindMover May 2014 #55
And what happens when the rate of return on capital falls?......... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #68
Some here are using your subject title as a distraction from addressing the article. rhett o rick May 2014 #56
The evolution of a thread title: Make7 May 2014 #57
Poster should be more aware how sensitive some people are re. rhett o rick May 2014 #66
As I said above, there's a lot of folks that pick some SERIOUS nits....... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #70
I guess they dont think people are smart enough to see what they are doing. They rhett o rick May 2014 #72
International trade deals will accelerate the inequality gap. Enthusiast May 2014 #77
Making the tax system even more progressive would not hurt Gothmog May 2014 #58
The function of liberals is to prevent radical change. Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #60
You are too smart for a blog ... take that thought and write an article or book ... nt MindMover May 2014 #61
I was paraphrasing Howard Zinn. Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #62
Ok, which one ... ? MindMover May 2014 #63
A People's History of the United States Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #64
So nice talking to you. Have a wonderful evening. Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #65
Zinn probably got that from V.I. Lenin because that's a Bolshevik....... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #71
Interesting to know. Thanks. Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #74
I am familiar with Howard Zinn and "A People's History...". Could you provide the actual rhett o rick May 2014 #73
I don't have it bookmarked or anything. Skeeter Barnes May 2014 #75
That's alright. Hillary "Goldman Sachs" Clinton is a REAL progressive and she'll finally give us Victor_c3 May 2014 #79
Jesus Christ IDemo May 2014 #80
Even after all these incarnations, the title is still a lie. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #81
Zombie outrage thread returns from the dead!! JoePhilly May 2014 #82
How is this a zombie thread? Marr May 2014 #83
Check the title edits. JoePhilly May 2014 #84
There were complaints that the original title was needlessly hyperbolic. Marr May 2014 #87
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
1. No way. A highly paid person disagrees with a tax on the wealthy?
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:09 PM
May 2014

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

"Well see, just because it has constantly and consistently increased doesn't mean it always will. If we have a horrific depression, return on capital could hit zero, then inequality wouldn't be growing at all! Well, yes, this also means it wouldn't be -shrinking- any, but hey, who's counting, right? Screw those workers anyways."

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
2. Where did the article claim that Furman is saying "no more taxes on the rich?"
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:17 PM
May 2014

The article does say: "There is no sign he is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth."

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
3. This translates to no more taxes on the 1%ers ...
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:19 PM
May 2014

"There is no sign he is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth. For now, wrestling with the ideas contained in “Capital,” rather than the policy proposals, is the best that Piketty fans are going to get from the Obama administration."

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
5. No, your "translation" is a gross exaggeration of what the article actually said.
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:22 PM
May 2014

He's not advocating "drastically higher taxes" or a wealth tax, according to the article.

That isn't at all the same as advocating "no more taxes on the 1%ers."

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
12. Where is a wealth tax.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:29 PM
May 2014

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
59. Maybe if you add a few more ?'s, you can cover over the fact
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:48 PM
May 2014

that Congress is the entity that passes new taxes. The executive branch can't enact a new tax.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
9. There is a huge difference between
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:27 PM
May 2014

(1) there is no sign that he embraces a drastically higher tax on income in the highest brackets or a global 2% tax on wealth

and

(2) he says no more taxes on the 1%ers.

Even if 1 is true, for example, he might be considering higher taxes on the rich (even if not drastically higher).

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
13. Yeah, the difference is eating generic gmo roundup foods and organic from whole foods ....
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:30 PM
May 2014

MIGHT BE CONSIDERING, while hundreds of thousands of children starve because of some greedy bastard ....

so where is the wealth tax ....?????????????????????????????

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
16. There is no hyperbole large enough to compare to the crassness of the greed shown in the USA ... nt
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:34 PM
May 2014

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
47. I live in a state where 19% of us want to leave but we can't because we don't have enough money
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:32 PM
May 2014

to move out ....

QC

(26,371 posts)
69. All the better to divert attention from inconvenient facts,
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

like how the president's chief economist is an admirer of Milton Friedman who considers WalMart a "progressive success story."

Look! Look! Over there!

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. You're right! The title of the post . . .
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:37 PM
May 2014

is inaccurate. The article does not say the Obama Admin says no taxes on the rich.

The poster should stop with misleading headline.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
20. Misleading headline ... LMAO ...
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:44 PM
May 2014

So you are saying that Obama's economist said that he would tax the 1%ers ...

I guess you read a different article .... ?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. You made a false claim.
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:54 PM
May 2014

The person you are responding to didn't make a claim.

Pointing out the fact that your claim is false is not the same as making some alternative claim like the one you attempted to attribute to them.

You're just digging a deeper hole.

brush

(53,776 posts)
53. Nope, same article, different takeaway.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:49 PM
May 2014

Article never says anything about "no new taxes on the rich" coming from the Obama Admin.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
78. I think the point of the article is that Pres Obama doesnt plan on any radical fixes for the
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:12 AM
May 2014

inequality problem. In fact it looks like he is, at best doing nothing, at worst, working to make it worse e.g., the TPP.

Tighten your belts, the Blue Dog/Republican coalition work for the oligarchs.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Trickle Down is Buy-Partisan
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:20 PM
May 2014

Buying governments so that wealth beyond measure can be handed down to a new generation of heirs, theirs.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
86. It is too tough a concept for some to recognize that the plutocratic-oligarchs would cover their
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:47 PM
May 2014

bets AND BUY SOME DEMOCRATS. But that thought makes it too complicated. Democrats = Good and Republicans = Bad. These sad souls think that if the Republican Party would disappear today, then we would live in heaven.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
14. Where is a wealth tax.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:31 PM
May 2014

GeorgeGist

(25,320 posts)
8. Furman is highly skilled at juggling,
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:26 PM
May 2014

which he mastered while performing on Manhattan streets for tourists some 20 years ago. His act included tossing knives, burning torches and even a bowling ball.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Furman

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
19. Always funny to hear financial banksters described as 'superstars'
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:41 PM
May 2014

Most of them are only highly paid because they can set their own wages (like Hedge Fund managers) or get their friends to set their wages (like most CEO's). Unlike in sports, where there are direct metrics to gauge performance, in the CEO world one gets cases like the Target CEO getting 55 million to go away after failing to keep is customer databases secure. Or the JP Morgan CEO Jaime Dimon who got a massive raise even though his company was paying large fines for criminal behavior that happened under his watch. Performance has nothing to do with it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. That's odd
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:52 PM
May 2014

"No more Taxes on the Rich (1%ers) says Obama's Economist ...."

...I didn't see where that's stated, and also considering the President's budget released in March

Obama's budget: Help for workers, taxes for the rich

By Jeanne Sahadi

President Obama on Tuesday released a nearly $4 trillion budget proposal for 2015 that includes more generous tax breaks for working families while scaling back breaks for the rich.

His budget, while not expected to be enacted by Congress, does offer the president's fiscal policy vision for the country...the White House says Obama's blueprint sticks to the topline spending limits already set by the House and Senate for 2015.

But the plan also features a $56 billion growth and investment package that includes money for universal pre-K, infrastructure and job training. Obama proposes to pay for those initiatives through additional spending restraint and increased revenue.

Impose a "Fair Share Tax": As he has called for before, Obama wants Congress to implement the so-called Buffett Rule, which would require people making over $1 million to pay at least 30% of their income, after charitable contributions, in federal taxes. <...>Cap the value of deductions for high-income households: Obama wants to limit the value of itemized deductions, as well certain tax exclusions, to 28% of the amount claimed. <...>Limit savers' combined balance across tax-preferred accounts: The president wants to prohibit contributions to tax-advantaged retirement accounts once a person's combined balance exceeds a certain level. Such accounts include IRAs and 401(k)s. <...>Raise the estate tax: The president wants restore the 2009 estate tax exemption levels and estate tax rate.

- more -

http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/04/pf/taxes/obama-budget-taxes/


MindMover

(5,016 posts)
25. Sorry that, "while scaling back breaks for the rich."
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:55 PM
May 2014

Is not the same as new taxes which are called for in the book, "Capital"

nice try ...

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
28. Huh?
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:00 PM
May 2014

"while scaling back breaks for the rich."

That means reducing tax breaks, but is that in the OP article?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
30. "We should set fire to babies" says Obama's chief economist.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:03 PM
May 2014

After all, nowhere does he advocate not doing so...

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
32. This is what I read .... we are already setting fire to way too many children because of the greed .
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:08 PM
May 2014

"In addressing his recommended policies for fighting global inequality, Mr. Furman mentions longstanding priorities of the Obama administration, such as expanding access to preschool, striking international trade deals and raising the minimum wage.

There is no sign he is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth. For now, wrestling with the ideas contained in “Capital,” rather than the policy proposals, is the best that Piketty fans are going to get from the Obama administration."

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
31. No he didn't say "no more taxes"
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:08 PM
May 2014

Indeed, he didn't mention taxes at all. As the article states, "There is no sign he is embracing ... drastically higher taxes . . ." There being no sign is not the same as someone outright rejecting the idea.

Perhaps by default, that is equivalent to what your header says. But it's not true that he "said" no higher taxes. What, indeed, would even be the point of that? There is no chance in hell that the administration, even if it desperately wanted it, would get a wealth tax past the Republican House of Representatives. Their job is to address the issue of inequality--which they have been doing steadily for a number of years--through the kinds of policies they might actually be able to effect in the real world, at this moment.



MindMover

(5,016 posts)
34. Thank you for admitting the obvious ... by default.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:12 PM
May 2014

and I am tired of playing the political ballgame of "in the real world",

because in my real world, I have seen the ravages of poverty firsthand and the idiocy of austerity due to lack of political backbone ...

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
45. We don't know. The article never stated Mr. Furman's opinion on taxes. MindMover lied in the title.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:28 PM
May 2014

What the last paragraph says is

There is no sign he (Mr. Furman) is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth.

But the author never asked Mr Furman about the taxes, nor does he know if Mr. Furman supports it or not. It's pathetic writing and a dishonest title by a DU er.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
37. I see what you did there
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:16 PM
May 2014

using Obama's name and tying it to someone else's opinion as if there is some policy in the making. Benghazi!!

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
38. So this is not Obama's economist and he did not say what he was quoted as saying ...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:18 PM
May 2014

and a budget is not an economists opinion .... via ProSense ...

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
43. No he DID NOT say what you said he did. All the author states is:
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:25 PM
May 2014
There is no sign he (Mr. Furman) is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth.


The author didn't ask him, the author doesn't even know. The author has zero information about where the Obama admin or Mr. Furman stand on raising taxes. All he says is ther is no sign he is embracing Mr. Piketty's recommendation of drastically higher taxes on income.

How desperate and pathetic must one's argument be to have to lie about something so simple?
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
52. yeah...never mind. You are insisting that you are being credible and honest in the OP
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:44 PM
May 2014

you are just not.

In fact, all of you responses are solidifying my opinion of your inability to accept that you blew it.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
40. I told you that your message would be hurt by hyperbole.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:23 PM
May 2014

Better to concede that you should have used a more precisely accurate title than to continue to dig yourself in deeper.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
44. If you can support that one with quotes from Furman, go for it.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:26 PM
May 2014

But even that claim is not evidenced in the article in question.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
48. right after getting elected, Obama started backing away from repealing the Bush tax cuts
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:34 PM
May 2014

Pelosi wanted legislation to repeal them immediately, Obama said no let's let them expire because the economy is weak (and we all know that tax cuts for the rich are GREAT for the economy!)

Then, people started talking about extending the Bush tax cuts even after they were supposed to expire. Various upper limits were mentioned, $250,000 was mentioned, 500,000, 1,000,000. The definition of "rich" was debated vigorously.

And guess what the actual limit turned out to be? Infinity! ALL of the Bush tax cuts were extended.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
49. and the Obama budget says 1 million and above a 30% rate ...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:36 PM
May 2014

which will happen when pigs fly ... greased pigs at that ...

Make7

(8,543 posts)
50. It is possible, he says, that lower growth ... would "push in the direction of less inequality."
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:39 PM
May 2014

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]It is possible, he says, that lower growth would lead the rate of return on capital to fall even more rapidly, which would "push in the direction of less inequality."[font style="font-size:0.8462em;"]


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/upshot/obamas-top-economist-has-some-problems-with-pikettys-book.html[/font]

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
51. The less inequality part because of lower growth is like saying
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:43 PM
May 2014

Look there are more poor people so there is less inequality ...

Make7

(8,543 posts)
54. Well I guess he didn't say that everyone's after-tax income will be exactly the same...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:53 PM
May 2014

... so I guess in that sense "InEquality will continue".

Is that the solution though? To make everyone's after-tax income exactly the same?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
68. And what happens when the rate of return on capital falls?.........
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:04 PM
May 2014

We have a pretty recent example of that in 2007/2008. Massive unemployment is what happens to the "rest of us". And the poor little rich folks don't make quite as much money. How will they EVER get by on the millions and billions they've got hoarded.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
56. Some here are using your subject title as a distraction from addressing the article.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:33 PM
May 2014

I think the title would be more accurate if it read, "Jason Furman doesnt see Obama making any radical changes to fight inequality."

He did say,

"There is no sign he is embracing the more radical solutions for rising inequality that Mr. Piketty recommends, such as drastically higher taxes on income in the highest brackets or a global 2 percent tax on wealth."

Which is unfortunate because, unlike Furman, I dont think that the growing gap of inequality will reverse itself without radical solutions.

He also said,
In addressing his recommended policies for fighting global inequality, Mr. Furman mentions longstanding priorities of the Obama administration, such as expanding access to preschool, striking international trade deals and raising the minimum wage.


IMO this is way inadequate to reverse the widening inequality gap. And I would like someone to explain to me how "international trade deals" will reverse the inequality gap.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
57. The evolution of a thread title:
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:38 PM
May 2014

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]No Taxes on the Rich says Obama's Economist ....
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]No Taxes on the Rich (1%ers) says Obama's Economist ....
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]No more Taxes on the Rich (1%ers) says Obama's Economist ....
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]InEquality will continue, says Obama's Economist ....
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]NO radical changes to fight inequality, says Obama's Economist ....
If a discussion about the article was desired, perhaps using the title of the article for the thread title would have accomplished that better.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
66. Poster should be more aware how sensitive some people are re.
Wed May 7, 2014, 07:49 PM
May 2014

criticism of the President and be more careful with their subjects.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
70. As I said above, there's a lot of folks that pick some SERIOUS nits.......
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

around here.

I've seen this type of thing before. The RWers I debated against on another board used to take one small inaccuracy and sometimes not even an inaccuracy, just a debatable point in a post and TOTALLY ignore the main thrust of the post while harping on that small part of it. This type of argument has been around for a while. I'm used to it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
72. I guess they dont think people are smart enough to see what they are doing. They
Wed May 7, 2014, 09:26 PM
May 2014

are desperately holding on to their dream of Camelot.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
77. International trade deals will accelerate the inequality gap.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:02 AM
May 2014

In fact, the huge and growing gulf started with enacting NAFTA and the others.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
60. The function of liberals is to prevent radical change.
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:05 PM
May 2014

To funnel working class anger into the ballot box, where that anger can be directed away from the 1%.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
79. That's alright. Hillary "Goldman Sachs" Clinton is a REAL progressive and she'll finally give us
Thu May 8, 2014, 01:59 PM
May 2014

some real reforms and stand up for the middle class when she wins the presidential election in 2016!

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
81. Even after all these incarnations, the title is still a lie.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:28 PM
May 2014

Would it really be so hard to come up with a non-dishonest title - something like "Obama's economist says nothing on the subject of radical changes to fight inequality" or "Obama' economist proposes non-radical changes to fight inequality"?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
83. How is this a zombie thread?
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:24 PM
May 2014

The cited article was published yesterday, and concerns a meeting that took place yesterday.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
84. Check the title edits.
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:27 PM
May 2014

Its been retitled about 4 times ... each time providing misleading, outrage inducing, variations.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
87. There were complaints that the original title was needlessly hyperbolic.
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
May 2014

It seems to me that the OP has simply tried to settle on a more accurate title.

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