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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:04 PM May 2014

"Why Many Unemployed Workers Will Never Get Jobs" - conservative victim blaming from Huffpo.

Awesome. As if America's unemployed don't have enough problems, we got this victim-blaming duffer to pile it on further.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ira-wolfe/why-many-unemployment_b_5273611.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

The problem with traditional job skill training in many cases is that you can walk a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Far too many workers -- employed and unemployed -- don't seem interested in finding water on their own. They want and expect someone else to find the water, make sure the journey isn't too arduous, and get someone to pay for it.

Thanks to years of economic prosperity, government entitlements, union contracts and most recently a generation of helicopter parents, many workers from aging Baby Boomers to the young adults known as Millennials don't have the motivational skills to achieve their own success, to keep themselves safe, to avoid a personal crisis, and to get themselves out of a jam.

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Many of the unemployed workers have simply lost the ability and motivation to make a better life for them and take responsibility for problems they create -- if they ever learned to do it in the first place. Picking yourself up by your bootstraps is a lost skill. When you fall, it's not your fault. It's expected that someone else come to your rescue, offer you the bootstrap, hoist you up, and nurse you back to health.

I recently mentioned to someone that "God helps those who help themselves." Their response was to tell me God never said that. That is true by the way -- it's not actually in the Bible. But they missed my point. For many generations we believed that. It was a philosophy our grandparents, our great-grandparents, and those before us lived by. People didn't look for handouts, sue someone when things didn't go right, and wallow in their own pity waiting to be rescued.

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Up until the last decade or so, it didn't take much to get a job. If you had a pulse and could fog a mirror, you had the qualifications for many low-paying, low-skill jobs. If you sought a better lifestyle, you acquired trade skills or a college degree. Once you had a job, you were pretty well set for life. At that point in your career, school was behind you and employees looked to the company for training, benefits, and even retirement. If you were unfortunate enough to be laid off, the company paid you a severance or you collected unemployment from the government. Companies as well as government and community services even provided another bootstrap -- outplacement services and job coaching to help you get back on your feet.


. . . and so on and so on and so on and this isn't the 1970s, asshole.

Do me a favor. Get in a pair of boots that have straps on them. Squat. Now grab those bootstraps and try to pull yourself upright. What happens? TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS???

These guys, AGAIN, grew up and acheived success in an age that had plentiful economic opportunites for everyone, whether you went to college or not. They built their wealth at a time when it was possible to do so with consistency (e.g. not in the past 14 years). College was affordable (sometimes free), there were pensions, benefits, employer matches to 401k, employee training, employer-paid college, etc, etc, etc. They never had significant landmines, financial or otherwise and see things from the winner's circle - zero empathy and firmly in a bubble.

This age no longer exists and now they're finger wagging and scolding workers for not "taking charge" of their lives. "Working hard" is no longer enough. "Going to college" is no longer enough. "Starting your own business" is no longer enough. "There's this . . . invisible unknown intangible . . . that my generation, of course, isn't affected by so much, but YOU BUMS ALL NEED TO FIND and once you do, grab onto it like you would a bootstrap, pay for it until yer destitute and starving and let it KILL ya, by gumption!!"



Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Thanks for the advice. Loads. We'll all get working on that bill Republicans and corporations left us.
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"Why Many Unemployed Workers Will Never Get Jobs" - conservative victim blaming from Huffpo. (Original Post) HughBeaumont May 2014 OP
OMG your comments abelenkpe May 2014 #1
The idiot forgot to mention that those boots are nailed to the floor. hobbit709 May 2014 #2
Same old "young people today" bullshit... Prophet 451 May 2014 #3
This article is nothing but victim-shaming with no tangible solutions. HughBeaumont May 2014 #4
They're sfraid... Prophet 451 May 2014 #6
I'd like to take those boots and shove them up Ira's ass... GoCubsGo May 2014 #5
Republicans outsourced the bootstrap industry. JaneyVee May 2014 #7
this asshole owns a company specializing in employee testing Enrique May 2014 #8
. . . who's infamous for getting people to work for FREEEEEEE . . . HughBeaumont May 2014 #16
I could not get through the whole thing. upaloopa May 2014 #9
What a miasma of contradictions! procon May 2014 #10
Reccing for your rant. winter is coming May 2014 #11
Big K and R Ishoutandscream2 May 2014 #12
I love how Arianna is considered a liberal heroine DonCoquixote May 2014 #13
The article and author are doling out a heaping pile of BS. This thinking used to work, the author mother earth May 2014 #14
I was surprised to see similar minded posts here on DU the other day whopis01 May 2014 #15

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
3. Same old "young people today" bullshit...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:23 PM
May 2014

Old people have been complaining about "young people today" for over two thousand years. HuffPo has really gone downhill to publish this shit.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
4. This article is nothing but victim-shaming with no tangible solutions.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:35 PM
May 2014

Where's the discussion on what needs to be done to create more opportunity? Where's the admonishing of corporate America? WHY are people SO afraid to speak out against the Blessed Scripture of the Free Market?

Did Ira just think jobs went away on their own? There's plenty of work to be done, but without government funding it or corporations looking to make a profit from it, it's never going to GET done and we'll have to rely on volunteerism that no one cares about, just so long as it happens, it's cost-efficient to whoever runs things and produces results. Problem solved on THEIR end, if we're bringing up what matters.

Guys like Ira better figure something out pretty damned fast on how to employ more millenials and change the situations of the unemployed lest he wants captialism to die a screaming death.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
6. They're sfraid...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:46 PM
May 2014

...because the sacredness of the market has become revealed writ to Republicans and many Democrats due to teh strangehold conservatives have on the media.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
5. I'd like to take those boots and shove them up Ira's ass...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:43 PM
May 2014

Along with my two college degrees and 25 years of experience--which have gotten me ZILCH since I got laid off. I am so fucking sick of these people.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
8. this asshole owns a company specializing in employee testing
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:47 PM
May 2014

there is a special place in hell for the people responsible for those tests.

Also for owners of websites that run his useless garbage commentaries. I'm talking to you, Arianna.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
16. . . . who's infamous for getting people to work for FREEEEEEE . . .
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:18 PM
May 2014

. . . with the notable exception of this dope, obviously.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
9. I could not get through the whole thing.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:27 PM
May 2014

Seems to me like another one of those writers who doesn't live in the real world and has faith in the conservative ideology like religious people have faith in god.
So if the ideology is correct then I need a reason for unemployment that fits the ideology. It must be the fault of the unemployed themselves.

procon

(15,805 posts)
10. What a miasma of contradictions!
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

The writer is all nostalgic for the good-old days, but he forgot that those "acquired trade skills" were provided by robust union journeyman training programs that gave companies a steady supply of qualified labor.

And those "college degrees" were stoked by large government subsidies because an affordable education pumped up the economy. The corporate profiteers did not pay "severance " to wage earners, but let the government provide unemployment and retraining for workers. These were not "handouts", but economically necessary measures to keep the enormous purchasing power of the great middle class engine revved up to max.

There is no logic in denying assistance to people in need while wailing that they are unable to pull themselves up by some mythological bootstrap and magically become successful entrepreneurs.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
13. I love how Arianna is considered a liberal heroine
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:02 PM
May 2014

When she publishes people like Grover Norquist, Mark Penn, and this.

She was a conservative who came to us because her Log Cabin republican faction got kicked out, and we threw her a line. Part of the reason she got the warm reception she did is because she hated Obama, supported Hillary, and favored the DLC side, aka "Conservatism is good, we just need to tweak it a bit."

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
14. The article and author are doling out a heaping pile of BS. This thinking used to work, the author
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:17 PM
May 2014

needs to reboot and revise. Everyone, not just the unemployed are having to rethink and change, everyone is being challenged in some shape or form.

How do we deal with the corruption and conflict of interest in our gov't and our highest court system? Seems that would be the first order of business, since these entities seem to be more self-serving than serving the people they were entrusted and appointed to serve.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
15. I was surprised to see similar minded posts here on DU the other day
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

I am not trying to say that this is how most people here think - I am sure it is a tiny minority - but I was surprised that it wasn't called out more.

One poster was talking about the strain on their life and health after not having a job for over a year. Another responded (multiple times, in various ways) saying something to the effect of "I can't imagine ever being in that situation myself. I just let people know what I am good at doing and get work right away." And went on to clearly blame the out-of-work poster for the situation that they found themselves in and suggested that they just pull themselves up and get a job.

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