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rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:50 PM May 2014

Former Labor Secretary Reich Facebook Statement on Obamas Walmart Visit.


Source. Facebook


DEPARTMENT OF ILL-ADVISED PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES. Tomorrow, President Obama is scheduled to do a press event at a Walmart store in Mountain View, California, to highlight the company’s purported energy efficiency, according to the White House. What numbskull in the White House arranged this? Walmart may be one of the retail industry's leaders in the use of renewable energy in its stores, but its greenhouse emissions grew 2 percent last year to nearly half a million metric tons, and it lags badly behind other large companies on renewable power, with only 3 percent of electricity from these sources.

More to the point, Walmart is one of the nation’s largest and worst employers – low wages, unreliable hours, few benefits, discrimination against women, and anti-union. The NLRB is investigating charges it discriminates against workers who speak out. And most of the rest of us are subsidizing Walmart by paying for the food stamps and Medicaid its workers need because Walmart doesn't pay them enough to keep them out of poverty.

Obama should use this opportunity not to praise Walmart but to condemn it for its irresponsible labor practices, to call for it to allow its workers to unionize, and meet with Walmart workers to hear first-hand about how they’re treated. (I'd also urge him to decide against being hosted this weekend by Walmart board member Marissa Mayer for a political fundraiser.)
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Former Labor Secretary Reich Facebook Statement on Obamas Walmart Visit. (Original Post) rsmith6621 May 2014 OP
K&R for the truth. Brickbat May 2014 #1
Sylvia Mathews Burwell, do I need to say anything else oneofthe99 May 2014 #2
Someone mentioned he attended a fundraiser with Marisa Mayer Yahoo ceo Jesus Malverde May 2014 #27
Well, the big campaign money does not come from poorly paid Walmart workers, ya know. djean111 May 2014 #3
Well that's how it works. L0oniX May 2014 #40
Thanks, Robert. november3rd May 2014 #4
Yeah, but he's short and he supported NAFTA RufusTFirefly May 2014 #5
Oh, I see - has DU gone L.A. now? Flash some cleavage, jiggle closeupready May 2014 #16
did he support NAFTA?...nt Jesus Malverde May 2014 #26
Yup. RufusTFirefly May 2014 #36
Strange how our "champions" always let us down where it really matters...nt Jesus Malverde May 2014 #38
That's why it's risky to rest our hopes on specific people instead of on movements and ideas RufusTFirefly May 2014 #44
More on ProSense May 2014 #6
Hold your friends close, hold your enemies closer, has always been Obama's very frustrating Fred Sanders May 2014 #7
I agree with you, though it's not a popular point of view. Voice for Peace May 2014 #12
You're right, Voice for Peace.. here's what else the Obama admin is doing about Walmart.. Cha May 2014 #18
Wal Mart and the Oligarchs wont choose to change -- They have to be forced to change Armstead May 2014 #28
Only massive on going protest and civil disobedience will have a chance of changing this. L0oniX May 2014 #41
dumbest post of the year so far Doctor_J May 2014 #32
If you like Hillary, you had better learn to like Walmart and its low wages and mooching off JDPriestly May 2014 #8
THe current spokesmodel is making WM look more decent elehhhhna May 2014 #21
This is why Reich did such a bang-up job in Washington Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #9
The other matter is what its about Armstead May 2014 #23
Somebody clearly thought this was a good idea Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #34
The worrisome part is that President Obama can say "yes" or "no" Armstead May 2014 #35
Robert, Robert, Robert..... DeSwiss May 2014 #10
See?...it's already old news zeemike May 2014 #13
Robert seems to be frustrated that Obama does not hate Walmart as much as him, but when you Fred Sanders May 2014 #14
Obama has to work with Walmart and the Walton's? zeemike May 2014 #15
"With" and "for" are not opposites. Fred Sanders May 2014 #19
"Hell I thought he worked for us" progressoid May 2014 #22
I didn't think it needed to be labeled. zeemike May 2014 #30
And said nary a peep about WalMart when on Team Clinton. Ikonoklast May 2014 #17
At least he got religion Armstead May 2014 #24
"I've known Hillary Rodham Clinton since she was a college freshman 48 years ago ProSense May 2014 #47
And I dont have to agree wiht RR on everyhing to agree with him on much Armstead May 2014 #48
Do you believe saying the "country needs" Hillary shows that "he got religion"? n/t ProSense May 2014 #50
In some ways yes, in some ways no Armstead May 2014 #52
He didn't offer it as a yes or no. Either the "country needs" her or not. Still, ProSense May 2014 #53
Oh quit playing silly word games Armstead May 2014 #54
You're the one "playing silly word games." You can't say why you think the "country needs" Hillary. ProSense May 2014 #55
Before I wlk away from this ridiculous exchange.... Armstead May 2014 #56
You could have ProSense May 2014 #57
K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #11
Shame, shame, shame... yallerdawg May 2014 #20
Curious the focus of his ire conveniently leaves out the Chinese worker. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #25
Good point. flvegan May 2014 #29
You can't complain about the state of the American worker or Walmart Jesus Malverde May 2014 #31
Free trade means giving the corrupt oligarchy the freedom to do whatever they want. stillwaiting May 2014 #45
Read "Bad Samaritans:The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism" RufusTFirefly May 2014 #46
The store will be closed for the Kings visit. dotymed May 2014 #33
I would like to see Robert Reich consider Le Taz Hot May 2014 #37
he might not win... grasswire May 2014 #51
Do they use "clean coal (quote - Obama)" too??? L0oniX May 2014 #39
And who made Walmart that way? Octafish May 2014 #42
k/r 840high May 2014 #43
At what point will people realize he's in the corporations pockets Fearless May 2014 #49

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
27. Someone mentioned he attended a fundraiser with Marisa Mayer Yahoo ceo
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:23 PM
May 2014

at 38K a pop per invitee. She's on the board of walmart.

Knowing that it seems obvious.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Well, the big campaign money does not come from poorly paid Walmart workers, ya know.
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:07 PM
May 2014

Also triple bullshit that he spoke at Walmart in order to shine a light on it.
Wonder how many workers lost pay due to the store closing for the visit.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
40. Well that's how it works.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:08 AM
May 2014

The more poor people are ...the more that politicians go to the rich for campaign money ...and more people become poor because of the rich. The dysfunction expands geometrically.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
4. Thanks, Robert.
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:09 PM
May 2014

You may be short, but you're usually the only one who can give us the real bird's-eye view.

Will Obo say anything like what you recommend?

Probably not, because, in my opinion, he's more interested in having the Walton heirs think he's a legitimate President after all.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
5. Yeah, but he's short and he supported NAFTA
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:12 PM
May 2014

I'll bet he's even got boxes in his garage.

Haters gotta hate.
If he's not an outright racist, he's probably taking money from Karl Rove.

What other possible reason could he have for saying such a thing?!

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
16. Oh, I see - has DU gone L.A. now? Flash some cleavage, jiggle
Fri May 9, 2014, 06:01 PM
May 2014

some flesh, and all your sins will be forgiven?

(lol Sorry for interrupting the serious political discussion here.)

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
36. Yup.
Sat May 10, 2014, 09:34 AM
May 2014

Reich: Labor `Plain Wrong' On Nafta
July 14, 1993|By William Neikirk.

WASHINGTON — Labor Secretary Robert Reich said Tuesday that labor unions are "just plain wrong" in opposing the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada and predicted it would result in adding jobs to the U.S. automobile and steel industries.

Chicago Tribune

Reich, like Krugman to some extent, has always been sort of an idealistic free-trader.

Of course, FDR initially supported a balanced budget, and Media Matters' David Brock was originally a hatchet man for the Right. People can learn from their mistakes.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
44. That's why it's risky to rest our hopes on specific people instead of on movements and ideas
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:28 PM
May 2014

Although I admired FDR and Eleanor even more so and although Gandhi and Dr. King are two of my inspirations, I still don't believe in the "great man" approach to history.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. More on
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:22 PM
May 2014
More to the point, Walmart is one of the nation’s largest and worst employers – low wages, unreliable hours, few benefits, discrimination against women, and anti-union. The NLRB is investigating charges it discriminates against workers who speak out. And most of the rest of us are subsidizing Walmart by paying for the food stamps and Medicaid its workers need because Walmart doesn't pay them enough to keep them out of poverty.

...that.

NLRB accuses Wal-Mart of retaliating against protesting workers

by Christian Dem in NC

Earlier today, the National Labor Relations Board filed a formal complaint against Wal-Mart for retaliating against workers who took part in protests on Black Friday 2012.

The complaint, filed Tuesday and circulated Wednesday by union representatives, details times when Wal-Mart allegedly illegally threatened "reprisal" against workers who protested on November 22, 2012, both on national television and to employees directly.

The agency also said Wal-Mart stores in 14 states unlawfully threatened or disciplined workers who participated in legal strikes and protests.

The complaint involves more than 60 employees, 19 of whom were allegedly fired as a result of their participation in the protests. It also named more than 60 Wal-Mart supervisors and one corporate officer.

Wal-Mart has until January 28 to file a response. A date for a hearing before an NLRB administrative law judge hasn't been set yet.

The NLRB's general counsel had actually greenlighted the filing of complaints back in November, but held off on formally filing one so the board could try to work out a settlement. Specifically, it charges that Wal-Marts in California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Texas and Washington took unlawful reprisals against the protesters. It also charges that Wal-Marts in California, Florida, Missouri and Texas took illegal preemptive strikes--such as spying on them and threatening them--against those planning future protests.

Wal-Mart looks on the workers' actions as a lawful response to what it calls a "union-orchestrated PR move." That's hard to believe from a company that practices what I call "deadbeat capitalism"--locking its workers into poverty-level wages and encouraging its workers to enroll in Medicaid rather than make it easier for them to enroll in the company's insurance plan, while its owners are among some of the richest people in the world.

Stay tuned.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/15/1269930/-NLRB-accuses-Wal-Mart-of-retaliating-against-protesting-workers

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Hold your friends close, hold your enemies closer, has always been Obama's very frustrating
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:43 PM
May 2014

to some strategy.

Demonizing an entity is a poor way to get them to change.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
12. I agree with you, though it's not a popular point of view.
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:09 PM
May 2014

Obama is not a stupid, thoughtless selfish and greedy man.

Ergo, there is usually some practical method in his madness.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
18. You're right, Voice for Peace.. here's what else the Obama admin is doing about Walmart..
Fri May 9, 2014, 06:41 PM
May 2014

Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
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Oh, and here's what else the Obama administration is doing about WalMart: http://search.usa.gov/search?query=WalMart&affiliate=u.s.departmentoflabor&x=0&y=0

7:13 AM - 9 May 2014

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http://search.usa.gov/search?query=WalMart&affiliate=u.s.departmentoflabor&x=0&y=0

Pertinent Tweet..

NBC Bay Area ✔ @nbcbayarea

JUST IN: President Obama is done speaking at Walmart. He signed off with a big "Happy Mother's Day, Moms!" http://nbcbay.com/nlaPUtQ

JOBoomr @JOBoomr
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@nbcbayarea TYVM, Pres. @BarackObama for shining light on Walmart, so #Unions could bring out their fairness-in-the-workplace concerns!

7:29 AM - 9 May 2014

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There's more thinking that goes into this than the short sighted view of those who knee jerk "walmart!"

TOD

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. Wal Mart and the Oligarchs wont choose to change -- They have to be forced to change
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:25 PM
May 2014

Nicey nicey with the Oligarchy isn't going to work. They must be confronted by public and legal pressure.

Saying what a wonderful company they are just makes them look good, and further legitimizes the immoral and obscene value system of the Oligarchs who are destroying this country.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
41. Only massive on going protest and civil disobedience will have a chance of changing this.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:11 AM
May 2014

This is what Howard Zinn said ...and obviously I think he was right. Read all about it here:

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. dumbest post of the year so far
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:38 PM
May 2014

Congratulations. I will admit that I avoid the BOG and the dungeon, so my view is a little narrow, and the year is young.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. If you like Hillary, you had better learn to like Walmart and its low wages and mooching off
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:49 PM
May 2014

government welfare. Because if we get Hillary, we get a new and bigger and . . . . Walmart. Hillary served on the Walmart board years ago and is supported by Walmart.

A pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC named several prominent Democratic donors on Friday in its push to build support for the former secretary of state to run for president in 2016.

Wal-Mart scion Alice Walton, financiers George and Robert Soros and the law firm of liberal megadonors Steve and Amber Mostyn all cut $25,000 checks to Ready for Hillary last year, the super PAC said in a public filing.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/george-soros-robert-soros-alice-walton-hillary-clinton-ready-for-hillary-102976.html

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
21. THe current spokesmodel is making WM look more decent
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014

to defuse the walmart mess that will surely be thrown at hilly , by us, when she runs

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
9. This is why Reich did such a bang-up job in Washington
Fri May 9, 2014, 04:09 PM
May 2014

Don't get me wrong. He's right on the issues and an effective spokesperson. But he sucks at the game of politics.

Seriously, does he really think that Obama is going to waltz into Wal-Mart and lambaste them in front of their employees and the media like that? That's the sort of bush-league, douche canoe thing a Republican would do.

Should Obama's people have schedule the event in the first place? No, they should not. But that's another matter altogether

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. The other matter is what its about
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:18 PM
May 2014

If Team Obama is so dense that they don't realize the symbolic implications of a pat-on-back visit to Wal Mart, they they are not as smart as they are cracked up to be.

If they know the implications and decided to do it anyway, then shame on them.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. The worrisome part is that President Obama can say "yes" or "no"
Sat May 10, 2014, 09:32 AM
May 2014

and he said yes to this harebrained idea

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
10. Robert, Robert, Robert.....
Fri May 9, 2014, 04:42 PM
May 2014

...how many times do I have to remind you? We're an oligarchy now. He has to go and bow down at the altar of mammon. It's expected.

- And it does no good to hang on to the past and the good 'ol days.......

K&R
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zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. See?...it's already old news
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:19 PM
May 2014

So why worry about it...He's got this. As a pragmatist you have to work within the system you have, not the one you wish you had.
When rape is inevitable it is best to lay back and enjoy it...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Robert seems to be frustrated that Obama does not hate Walmart as much as him, but when you
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:48 PM
May 2014

have to work with people rather than simply write about them, it is not the same thing.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
15. Obama has to work with Walmart and the Walton's?
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:53 PM
May 2014

Hell I thought he worked for us...but I guess not in an oligarchy...so we can drop the illusion of by and for the people now.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
22. "Hell I thought he worked for us"
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:16 PM
May 2014


Sprayed water out of my nose with that one!!!

"I thought he worked for us"







psst, I know you were being sarcastic




Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
17. And said nary a peep about WalMart when on Team Clinton.
Fri May 9, 2014, 06:26 PM
May 2014

Got religion only after he was finished contributing his part to the Third Way agenda and selling out American Labor.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
47. "I've known Hillary Rodham Clinton since she was a college freshman 48 years ago
Sat May 10, 2014, 01:50 PM
May 2014

Post from 2013:

I've known Hillary Rodham Clinton since she was a college freshman 48 years ago (Hillary Rodham, then). I have no doubt she'll run for president in 2016, nor do I have any doubt that she'd make a fine president. Regressive Republicans will, of course, do everything in their power to prevent her from becoming president. Their continued obsession with the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, news stories now being floated about State Department disarray under her watch, rumors of Department officials consorting with prostitutes -- all of this, and much more can be expected over the next three years. Our presidential campaigns are almost permanent, the regressives' venom is unfathonable, and their scorched-earth partisanship is worse than ever. But HRC is by now well-accustomed to their attacks. Her skin is much thicker than it was when they began going after her in the Clinton Administration (remember Whitewater? Vince Foster?). She knows how and when to respond forcefully. She will not formally announce until she absolutely must, which will help, but she will be a visible and compelling presence between now and then nonetheless. I hope she takes good care of herself. The nation needs her.

https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/620347554644511

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
53. He didn't offer it as a yes or no. Either the "country needs" her or not. Still,
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:02 PM
May 2014

"In some ways yes, in some ways no"

...in what "ways" does saying the "country needs" Hillary demonstrate the "he got religion"?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
54. Oh quit playing silly word games
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:22 PM
May 2014

Let me put it real simply. It is possible to agree with someone on some things, but not on others.

But you already knew that.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
55. You're the one "playing silly word games." You can't say why you think the "country needs" Hillary.
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:23 PM
May 2014

n/t

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
56. Before I wlk away from this ridiculous exchange....
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

I think much of what Reich has said in recent years about economic issues is correct.

I disagree with his stated belief that Hillary Clinton will actually do anything to advance those views if she gets elected.

It is absolutely impossible to make it any simpler or clear than that.

But you knew that already.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
57. You could have
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:38 PM
May 2014

"I disagree with his stated belief that Hillary Clinton will actually do anything to advance those views if she gets elected. "

...said that before, but instead you stated: "In some ways yes, in some ways no."

Now, you're saying no.

Thanks.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
20. Shame, shame, shame...
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:32 PM
May 2014

on anyone who thinks Walmart should be credited for this PR move. Our Democratic president should not be going to the Great Satan of the destruction of the Middle Class of America praising them for using some cheap outsourced LED lites!

Hyperbole? Ask hundreds of thousands of American workers about the dignity of work when every moment of your work existence is dependent on one issue, problem, tardiness, illness, accident -- living in fear for subsistence wages because nothing else is left.

Wake up and open your eyes!

Robert Reich is the Democrat.

What is Obama thinking?

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
25. Curious the focus of his ire conveniently leaves out the Chinese worker.
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:20 PM
May 2014

As if the retail and not manufacturing component of the business is rotten. Walmarts greenhouse emissions start in china, where they make all that plastic crap.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
31. You can't complain about the state of the American worker or Walmart
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:40 PM
May 2014

Without looking at the disaster that "Free Trade" has had in gutting the american economy.

Free Trade is the ability to pollute freely, free trade is the ability to leverage workers against each other, Free trade is the ability to work with extremely corrupt government partners. Free trade is anything but free.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
45. Free trade means giving the corrupt oligarchy the freedom to do whatever they want.
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:47 PM
May 2014

It absolutely does give THEM that freedom. They become less and less encumbered by regulations and oversight with the passage of these agreements.

However, it makes things much more difficult for average and ordinary people.

For THEM though, THEY are the only ones who matter.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
46. Read "Bad Samaritans:The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism"
Sat May 10, 2014, 01:46 PM
May 2014

By Ha-Joon Chang. It's an excellent, surprisingly entertaining book by a former World Bank consultant that reveals the hypocrisy of the countries, such as the U.S. and the U.K., who supposedly champion free trade but gained their positions of power and global economic dominance primarily through protectionism.

His next book, "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" is even more entertaining, informative, and easy to read due to the nature of its structure.

Here's an excerpt (via Truthout)

Thing 1: There is No Such Thing as a Free Market

What They Tell You

Markets need to be free. When the government interferes to dictate what market participants can or cannot do, resources cannot flow to their most efficient use. If people cannot do the things that they find most profitable, they lose the incentive to invest and innovate. Thus, if the government puts a cap on house rents, landlords lose the incentive to maintain their properties or build new ones. Or, if the government restricts the kinds of financial products that can be sold, two contracting parties that may both have benefited from innovative transactions that fulfil their idiosyncratic needs cannot reap the potential gains of free contract. People must be left ‘free to choose’, as the title of free-market visionary Milton Friedman’s famous book goes.

What They Don’t Tell You

The free market doesn’t exist. Every market has some rules and boundaries that restrict freedom of choice. A market looks free only because we so unconditionally accept its underlying restrictions that we fail to see them. How ‘free’ a market is cannot be objectively defined. It is a political definition. The usual claim by free-market economists that they are trying to defend the market from politically motivated interference by the government is false. Government is always involved and those free-marketeers are as politically motivated as anyone. Overcoming the myth that there is such a thing as an objectively defined ‘free market’ is the first step towards understanding capitalism.

More



Free trade is a race to the bottom. Workers and the environment will suffer in the cause of making the rich even more obscenely wealthy than they already are.

As Jim Hightower puts it, "Where are we going? And what am I doing in this handbasket??"


dotymed

(5,610 posts)
33. The store will be closed for the Kings visit.
Sat May 10, 2014, 07:38 AM
May 2014

No employees to talk to. What did you expect?
President Obama in aisle 3 ?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
37. I would like to see Robert Reich consider
Sat May 10, 2014, 09:37 AM
May 2014

running for the nomination in 2016. I could easily get behind him, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Goddess forbid our "choices" are between Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
42. And who made Walmart that way?
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:15 AM
May 2014

The late Jackson Stephens, investment guru of Arkansas.

Hillary Rodham Clinton, attorney for the Rose Law Firm.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4630396&mesg_id=4631257

Others, as well, but money and the law were the start of making the local enterprise go global.

Come the campaign, the very mention of the word "Walmart" should send everyone involved straight to the vomitorium.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
49. At what point will people realize he's in the corporations pockets
Sat May 10, 2014, 02:51 PM
May 2014

Just like most of Congress and the judiciary.

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