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markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:34 PM May 2014

The NY Times' Adam Liptak: False Equivalence Monger

On edit: I originally stated that my comment had not yet been published. It now has been published, so the text below is edited accordingly.

There is a column by Adam Liptak in today's Times, titled, "The Polarized Court" (excerpt appears at the end of my comments below). Liptak blathers on about the 'polarization' of the Supreme Court and points out that it reflects a similar polarization in the electorate. Yet, to read the article, one would think that the two parties had moved in opposite directions, when in fact both moved in the same direction: one party by a radically large degree, the other by s smaller degree. But there is NO discussion of the fact that to the extent polarization has occurred, it has occurred as a result of the GOP shifting radically rightward. To the extent Democrats have moved, it has also been (sadly enough), to the right also. Here is the text of a comment I just posted to the piece.

Mark P. Kessinger
I wonder if perhaps Mr. Liptak has been spending a bit too much time inside the Beltway of late, for he seems to have succumbed to a certain malady that affects many pundits and journalists who spend too much time there: False Equivalence Syndrome. To speak of our politics as merely being "polarized," without mention of the very significant rightward shift of our entire political spectrum over the last 33 years is to miss what has really been going on, and suggests, incorrectly, that the two parties have moved in opposite directions.

What has happened, though, is that the Republican Party, beginning with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and continuing to the present day, has moved radically to the right, abandoning a middle ground on many issues on which there had previously been, if not full agreement on how to address issues, at least a broad consensus on what the issues were and the importance of addressing them -- things such as public education, a robust social safety net, and at least nominal support for organized labor. The broad center, comprised of Democrats and Republicans alike, did not demonize government. But Reagan, with his "Government is the problem" mantra, changed that. That was the point of departure.

Sadly, Democrats moved to the right as well. So it is hardly adequate to speak of 'polarization' when one party has moved radically to the right, and the other closer to the center.


Here is an excerpt from the article:

[font size=5]The Polarized Court[/font]

[font size=2]MAY 10, 2014[/font]

WASHINGTON — WHEN the Supreme Court issued its latest campaign finance decision last month, the justices lined up in a familiar way. The five appointed by Republican presidents voted for the Republican National Committee, which was a plaintiff. The four appointed by Democrats dissented.

That 5-to-4 split along partisan lines was by contemporary standards unremarkable. But by historical standards it was extraordinary. For the first time, the Supreme Court is closely divided along party lines.

The partisan polarization on the court reflects similarly deep divisions in Congress, the electorate and the elite circles in which the justices move.

The deep and often angry divisions among the justices are but a distilled version of the way American intellectuals — at think tanks and universities, in opinion journals and among the theorists and practitioners of law and politics — have separated into two groups with vanishingly little overlap or interaction. It is a recipe for dysfunction.

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The NY Times' Adam Liptak: False Equivalence Monger (Original Post) markpkessinger May 2014 OP
I am always glad to see a post from you, and so glad that you fight back against the nonsense found scarletwoman May 2014 #1
Thank you for the encouragement! markpkessinger May 2014 #2
You're more than welcome! scarletwoman May 2014 #3
Can someone translate this? markpkessinger May 2014 #4

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
1. I am always glad to see a post from you, and so glad that you fight back against the nonsense found
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:44 PM
May 2014

in the NYT.

The unstoppable flood of false narratives in the the media is absolutely maddening. Thank you so much for doing what you do to counter it where you can.

Bravo!

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
2. Thank you for the encouragement!
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:46 PM
May 2014

That means a lot to me, especially because I sometimes find myself wondering why I bother!

Thanks again!

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
4. Can someone translate this?
Sun May 11, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

Another reader responded to my comment as follows:

Faith is not and never ever will be reason. There is no equivalence more false than putting faith and reason on the same level.


Maybe I'm dense, but I have no idea what the guy is trying to say, or what it has to do with my comment. Can anybody enlighten me?
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