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Some sick dads I guess.
A 17-year-old Virginia girl said she was kicked out of a prom for homeschooled teens because she aroused impure thoughts in some adult male chaperones.
Clare Ettinger wrote a post on her sisters blog about the incident, saying that her dress met the events dress code but was asked to leave anyway.
The Richmond teen said one of the women who organized the prom checked her dress and she showed her that it met the fingertip length requirement.
But the woman reminded her to keep the dress pulled down so it met the requirement.
The 5-foot-9 girl, who said her dress looked short because of her height and long legs, said she was amused to find herself surrounded at the prom by shorter girls in much shorter dresses.
But Clare said she and her friends noticed a group of fathers ogling and talking about her from a balcony above the dance floor, which she said mildly disgusted the teenage girls.
The same chaperone who had checked her dress then pulled her aside while she swayed to the music and talked to her friends.
The woman told her that some of the fathers who volunteered at the event thought her dancing was too provocative and could provoke impure thoughts in boys at the dance.
Clare told the woman she had not been dancing, but the chaperone insisted her dress was too short and kicked her out of the event.
The teens friends left with her, and prom organizers promised to refund their ticket purchases.
So far, only Clare had her money returned.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/13/teen-girl-kicked-out-of-prom-because-dads-said-her-dress-conjured-impure-thoughts/
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Strange older men expressing a sort of eroticism of power while literally looming over a roomful of teenage women.
villager
(26,001 posts)n/t
pscot
(21,024 posts)seems to bbe the woman who measured the young woman's dress, then later kicked her out. Just sayin'.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)Again from the article
But Clare said she and her friends noticed a group of fathers ogling and talking about her from a balcony above the dance floor, which she said mildly disgusted the teenage girls.
pscot
(21,024 posts)All we know for sure is that the lady who measured her dress asked her to leave. Who knows what was going on in that woman's head or what may have been said to her.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Really blame the girls?
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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Journeyman
(15,031 posts)and when they involve women with whom I am not romantically involved, I curb my impulses.
I would never think to impose my personal repressions on another, especially a young woman feeling her way through the vagaries of budding life.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)And this is coming from a guy with a (probably) above-average libido who nonetheless manages to behave in a civilized fashion.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)but have no clue what it means.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)Another reason she might have been asked to leave is because her date was black.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)From the link above:
Im not responsible for some perverted 45-year-old dad lusting after me because I have a sparkly dress on and a big ass for a teenager, she concludes. And if you think I am, then maybe youre part of the problem.
You go, Clare!
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)loving Ms. Clare!
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)At least one person in that environment has not fallen in to the brainwashing!
Good for Miss Clare for standing up for herself.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)dig into this story...
http://www.hannahettinger.com/fuck-the-patriarchy-guest-post-by-clare/
The dress:
The Date:
NOW what do you think?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)no doubt about it. The dress is just not that revealing, but the skin color of her date is.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)She doesn't suggest race was an issue in her write up.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)Only the fathers leering at her.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)But I'm always suspicious of these things, probably with good reason.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)unfortunately that is deemed inappropriate behavior by a few too many even now. Women of any race with a black or dark skinned male of a different race are slut shamed for some reason. I've seen this happen to conservatively dressed deeply religious virgins too.
And the dress is shorter than any I saw at my prom, which was about 13 years ago. So this is a convenient excuse to deny the real issue.
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Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and it has nothing to do with the dress -- which is EXTREMELY modest by today's standards.
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)The pictures tell the story, and it wasn't about her dress.
It was about her date.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Should tell you all you need to know about this.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)The combination was just too much!
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)can't stand the white girl with the black guy.
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)There is nothing wrong it.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)ugh. Lovely young lady. sick dads.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Don't let their bullshit story about her dress fool you.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Still tells us a lot about the dads, and the culture, and the whole 'adult' mindset. She sounds sane. Hope they let her go out of state to college.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)They were pissed that a pretty white girl had a black guy for a date.
And they couldn't say THAT was the reason.
But we all know that it was.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Fundamentalist white fathers in balcony letting their imaginations run. Kids get kicked out of prom. End of story.
The dress was fine.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)She never mentions the race of her date only the dress.
Being conservative does not necessarily make one opposed to mixed race couples. A couple of examples
1) Clarence Thomas is married to a white woman.
2) L.A. Clippers power forward Blake Griffin father's black while his mother is white. He was home schooled till the seventh grade. His parents are fundamentalists, Griffin expresses belief in creationism as a result.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/blake-griffin-plays-coy-about-kate-upton-not-about-creationism-20140415
If reads comments on the internet it's quite obvious racism is not dead. I just need to see more from the story of the girl's prom to say yes it was an issue in this case.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Given the quote from Clare at the end of the OP linked article (quoted in my post above), Clare could easily be smart enough to realize the real reason and to shame the people in charge by taking their stated reason to the logical conclusion. And her take on it shames the sh*t out of the people in charge.
Either the people in charge are perverted fathers or they are racist bigots. I wonder which they'd prefer to be known as?
I still say:
You go, Clare!
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)For so many reasons.
Why wasn't there some adult - ANY ADULT - at that function who would stand up for this young lady?
Yes, we all know the "real" reason that she was targeted, and it's disgusting that such blatant racism still exists.
The woman chaperone should be ashamed of herself for going along with this orchestrated attack on this teen. Whether it was for the reason given ("impure thoughts"??? Give me a break!!) or for the obvious reason.