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Elizabeth Warren: "Give me a break." (Original Post) Scuba May 2014 OP
I would like to give you my vote. djean111 May 2014 #1
Coming Home To Roost billhicks76 May 2014 #71
Elizabeth nails false equivalency - TBF May 2014 #2
K and freaking R elzenmahn May 2014 #73
Spot on /nt think May 2014 #3
K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #4
She HAS to run. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #5
I would do anything to see that happen. closeupready May 2014 #6
She's not going to run. YOHABLO May 2014 #13
Wouldn't it be a better distraction..... daleanime May 2014 #31
Yes, she will run. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #39
She'd make a great running mate for a former Walmart board member RufusTFirefly May 2014 #7
The former WalMart board member can't hold a candlestick to Elizabeth. Scuba May 2014 #8
Of course she can't. I totally agree with you. RufusTFirefly May 2014 #9
I can't imagine that either of them would be interested in such a pairing. n/t winter is coming May 2014 #11
...but...but...but...Elizabeth Warren said that Hillary was "terrific"... bvar22 May 2014 #62
Yeah, my hopes were completely crushed by that interview. winter is coming May 2014 #63
I think Warren can be more effective in the Senate than as VP YOHABLO May 2014 #14
I agree RufusTFirefly May 2014 #17
Damn, that would be golden, wouldn't it? tavalon May 2014 #38
Me too, that's why I'm backing her for POTUS. Scuba May 2014 #26
I have to disagree Scootaloo May 2014 #66
That's the meme from those who don't want her to run. Of course it's bullshit. Scuba May 2014 #74
I agree, I am sure she will be offered the job, and hope she refuses SQUEE May 2014 #34
She wont be offered the job. The Democratic Party has made a strategic decision to forsake the left rhett o rick May 2014 #56
They know we have no where else to go... SQUEE May 2014 #58
I just had a discussion with someone that stated that "a little is better than none." rhett o rick May 2014 #59
Agreed, we need no more cronyism, Warren has to run. SQUEE May 2014 #60
I have just gotten a good start on her book. But we must get other progressives rhett o rick May 2014 #61
"You have nowhere else to go" isn't a good way to get people to campaign or vote for you. winter is coming May 2014 #64
They know we have no where else to go and they're hell bent to keep it that way. SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #78
Let em elect Hillary with out us then. L0oniX May 2014 #70
She will be nominated. The oligarch powers would rather have Jeb but Hillary would be better for rhett o rick May 2014 #72
To me, this seems to be how she feels. Brigid May 2014 #36
Snort. JackRiddler May 2014 #50
Then azureblue May 2014 #10
Sorry, my mistake. I meant an unrepentant saber rattler and XL pipeline cheerleader RufusTFirefly May 2014 #12
Not to mention Iraq War supporter… Jackpine Radical May 2014 #46
Indeed. Not to mention a disgusting role in using the Hydrocarbon Law to blackmail Iraq RufusTFirefly May 2014 #48
been living in a cave, huh? heaven05 May 2014 #20
LOL! reformist2 May 2014 #81
Money out of politics thats the only answer. Half-Century Man May 2014 #15
should keep a few around Leme May 2014 #27
Very true. Look at George W. I sure am glad we did no elect Money Romney. Maineman May 2014 #52
I subscribe to the San Francisco Chronicle vlakitti May 2014 #16
bravo! heaven05 May 2014 #23
"The French aristocracy didn't see it coming, either." Jackpine Radical May 2014 #47
Woo-Hoo! I lover her. JDPriestly May 2014 #18
THANK YOU, ELIZABETH WARREN! woo me with science May 2014 #19
I'm glad I voted for her, in my heart heaven05 May 2014 #21
Oh how I would love to see her and Bernie on the same ticket madokie May 2014 #22
Draft Elizabeth Warren. Fuddnik May 2014 #24
Good one davidpdx May 2014 #25
Labor's voice is but a whisper. SamKnause May 2014 #28
Clinton seems to think otherwise: Whisp May 2014 #33
She is a tool of the elites. SamKnause May 2014 #40
K&R.... daleanime May 2014 #29
Uh oh! Sounds like she's pro lobbyist. Dawgs May 2014 #30
Good morning, Elizabeth and a big K&R for you. Whisp May 2014 #32
SWOON!!! johnnyreb May 2014 #35
giant kick and rec! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #37
I love her ! Burf-_- May 2014 #41
What a true Democrat would say. Phlem May 2014 #42
K&R! There Elizabeth stands fighting against a common false media narrative! Enthusiast May 2014 #43
I'm done wondering. Scuba May 2014 #44
Me too. I was just trying to be nice. Enthusiast May 2014 #45
They'll need to focus-group that and get back to you. n/t winter is coming May 2014 #55
Run Betsy Run !!! Maineman May 2014 #49
Kick it up there! another_liberal May 2014 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2014 #53
In Warren's current Senatorial positional, she could run a campaign against corporatist Democrats DhhD May 2014 #54
Clinton would only move us deeper and deeper into the fascism. That's her bread and butter. Scuba May 2014 #75
WILL YOU PLEEEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!! supercats May 2014 #57
K&R...Thanks for posting. Scuba red dog 1 May 2014 #65
Agreed BUT... ELI BOY 1950 May 2014 #67
That's the meme from those who don't want her to run. Of course it's bullshit. Scuba May 2014 #76
Please explain how and why someone who "comes out of the corporate world" would winter is coming May 2014 #79
K&R /nt myrna minx May 2014 #68
RUN ELIZABETH. mylye2222 May 2014 #69
Exactly libodem May 2014 #77
K&R n/t NealK May 2014 #80
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I would like to give you my vote.
Tue May 20, 2014, 10:55 PM
May 2014

And that puts things in a better perspective. The correct perspective.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
71. Coming Home To Roost
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

The criminals behind the corporations are going to get broken and they can't blame anyone but themselves.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. Of course she can't. I totally agree with you.
Tue May 20, 2014, 11:17 PM
May 2014

That's why I think pairing them up would be absurd. And depressing.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
62. ...but...but...but...Elizabeth Warren said that Hillary was "terrific"...
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:50 PM
May 2014

...on a television interview when asked what she though of Hillary.
The Hillary crowd here immediately took that for an endorsement.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
63. Yeah, my hopes were completely crushed by that interview.
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:02 PM
May 2014

I was so expecting that Warren would come out and say that Hillary is a booger-eating kitten juggler unworthy of high office.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
17. I agree
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:10 AM
May 2014

I think any effort to make her VP would be an attempt to muzzle her.
Admittedly, she's tough to muzzle (thank heaven for that!), but even so.
The only way I can see her as VP is with a President who's even more progressive.
Otherwise, if she runs at all, I hope she reaches for the brass ring.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
66. I have to disagree
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:45 PM
May 2014

Mind, I wouldn't mind president Warren...

But I prefer Senator Warren, and want 99 more just like her.

Legislative is where the power starts.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
74. That's the meme from those who don't want her to run. Of course it's bullshit.
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:22 PM
May 2014

No Senator weilds more power than the POTUS.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
34. I agree, I am sure she will be offered the job, and hope she refuses
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:45 AM
May 2014

I just don't want to wait 10 years for this woman to be my president, I dont want to wait 2 to be honest...

it actually depresses me to know we have someone so in tune, and so ready, that she is wasting that fire and insight in the Senate. We as Americans NEED Elizibeth to run, before it is too damn late.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
56. She wont be offered the job. The Democratic Party has made a strategic decision to forsake the left
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:34 PM
May 2014

to get the right of center vote. Corporate money, like Goldmen Sachs-O-Money, dont like Sen Warren.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
58. They know we have no where else to go...
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:57 PM
May 2014

What option is there, I for one am sick of having to vote for least worse candidates.

I don't expect perfection or total allignment, Senator Warren and I most definitely disagree on the 2nd, but I deal with that issue in my state, and despite my vociforousness on it here, it is not the be all end all of my political views. Her stance as the corporate giant killer, ending student loan slavery and taking on the banks for us, all things that are more crucial to every one than a future showdown over gun ownership. I believe if she or someone damn near like her does not get the White House soon,we will irretrevibly lose this country to the Corporations.

I do not see Warren as a Left candidate, taking on corruption and the idea of a fair country for the people are ideas most every American believes in, it is the media that has convinced us that standing up for a square deal is some radical leftist notion, we need to reject that, and spread the word, and pressure her to run.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
59. I just had a discussion with someone that stated that "a little is better than none."
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:11 PM
May 2014

Well each year that "little" gets less and less and will soon be nothing. H. Clinton-Sachs is not the candidate that will halt the current transfer of wealth.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
60. Agreed, we need no more cronyism, Warren has to run.
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:24 PM
May 2014

I have lent out my copy of her book twice already, and have bought 3 copies to start passing out as well, if enough of us can really get the message out there, away from the medias slant, we may have a fighting chance.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
61. I have just gotten a good start on her book. But we must get other progressives
Wed May 21, 2014, 05:31 PM
May 2014

in offices to help her. The movement has started we just need to get it out.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
64. "You have nowhere else to go" isn't a good way to get people to campaign or vote for you.
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:10 PM
May 2014

Perhaps the Party leadership thinks that statement is equivalent to "we're your best option", but what it really says is, "We don't give a shit about representing your interests and we're not going to listen to you."

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
70. Let em elect Hillary with out us then.
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:27 PM
May 2014

I damn sure ain't going to vote for Hillary ...no matter what.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
72. She will be nominated. The oligarch powers would rather have Jeb but Hillary would be better for
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:33 PM
May 2014

them than Sen Sanders or Sen Warren. The left doesnt have enough clout or money to prevail.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
36. To me, this seems to be how she feels.
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:15 AM
May 2014

And why she is saying "no" to running for President. Though I think I would throw a party if she were to change her mind.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
50. Snort.
Wed May 21, 2014, 01:44 PM
May 2014

I figure she'd be even more effective as a Harvard professor than in the Senate. Or wait, maybe as a talk show host? A motivational speaker on tour?

The important thing is, how can she best serve the Inevitable Clinton?

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
10. Then
Tue May 20, 2014, 11:39 PM
May 2014

Please say out loud the name, and the years (from / to) this person was a "Wal Mart board member" and what was this person's function on that alleged "board"?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
12. Sorry, my mistake. I meant an unrepentant saber rattler and XL pipeline cheerleader
Tue May 20, 2014, 11:58 PM
May 2014

And there, I just said the person's name out loud.

I don't know why you would make such a request since you shouldn't be able to hear me.
Or are you with the NSA?

P.S. Sorry. I'm not taking your bait.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
48. Indeed. Not to mention a disgusting role in using the Hydrocarbon Law to blackmail Iraq
Wed May 21, 2014, 01:14 PM
May 2014

"Nice little country you got there, Iraq. It would be a shame if something happened to it."

That law essentially opened the door to privatizing Iraq's oil and giving American companies first priority. In short, it amounted to blackmail and theft.

And yet the aforementioned played a key role in perpetuating the canard that the new Iraqi government was dragging its feet and being uncooperative, disingenuously diverting attention away from the fact that we were holding its most valuable resource hostage.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
15. Money out of politics thats the only answer.
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:07 AM
May 2014

Business experts out of politics. Business skills do not translate into governmental skills.
Those trained in business administration have no value as diplomats.

vlakitti

(401 posts)
16. I subscribe to the San Francisco Chronicle
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:08 AM
May 2014

and Senator Warren seems to be parodying them and their social and economic perspective. Out here it's the phrase "special interests". All the time. Same thing, same false equivalence. Same baloney.

Senators Bernie Sanders and Warren are speaking from a working class perspective I haven't heard from the Democratic Party since everyone bought into trickle-down Reaganism, and that's been thirty years of voodoo economics and the attempted destruction of every reform of the New Deal and the 20th Century.

I like the phrase "the French aristocracy didn't see it coming, either." I hope it sticks.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Woo-Hoo! I lover her.
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:16 AM
May 2014

Woman after me own heart. Keep fighting for us Elizabeth. We really, really love you.

We need you in the White House making fighting noise. Please run in 2016. Please, please.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
21. I'm glad I voted for her, in my heart
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:32 AM
May 2014

I'm not a Massachusetts native. Yet as POTUS, I think those corporate, billionaire, bankers dollars and repthug obstructionism would thwart her just like BO. If not her, key people in her administration. But who knows what she could do against those trillions of repthug dollars.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. Oh how I would love to see her and Bernie on the same ticket
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:33 AM
May 2014

for President, Vice President. Either one at the top of the ticket would be fine with me. Although I'd really like to see her break through the glass ceiling

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. Good one
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:57 AM
May 2014

I'm impressed with Warren and very much open to the idea of her as a candidate for president.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
33. Clinton seems to think otherwise:
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:38 AM
May 2014

or maybe that was just another one of the Misspeaky things:

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
30. Uh oh! Sounds like she's pro lobbyist.
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:29 AM
May 2014

Could be a problem if she decides to run for president.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
43. K&R! There Elizabeth stands fighting against a common false media narrative!
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:20 PM
May 2014

Unlike some Democrats that will not mention this stuff. Kind of makes you wonder what side they are actually on.

Go, Elizabeth!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
54. In Warren's current Senatorial positional, she could run a campaign against corporatist Democrats
Wed May 21, 2014, 02:57 PM
May 2014

over the next 8 years (which she is doing now). Hillary Clinton as President could give Warren the opportunity to become more intensive. It may take several years to rid our democracy of fascism. During the last term of Clinton's two terms, a President could move very Left, of Center, just in time for Warren's first of two terms beginning January 2025. That is my opinion.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
75. Clinton would only move us deeper and deeper into the fascism. That's her bread and butter.
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:23 PM
May 2014

ELI BOY 1950

(173 posts)
67. Agreed BUT...
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:16 PM
May 2014

I believe she will be more effective where she is...if Hillary runs that will open the gate for Warren.
REMEMBER Hillary comes out of the corporate world and is nowhere near as far to the left as Warren...

Let our girl Liz get her feet wet and slowly move the right leaning dems to the left...it will take time but will be done.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
76. That's the meme from those who don't want her to run. Of course it's bullshit.
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:25 PM
May 2014

Clinton would only make things worse. I'll take Warren, and a whole lot of others, before Clinton.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
79. Please explain how and why someone who "comes out of the corporate world" would
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:43 PM
May 2014

"open the gate" for Warren.

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