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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:35 AM May 2014

Man says ‘the Lord’ grabbed him and compelled him to attack a kid on a skateboard

An Orange County elementary school teacher suspended for the second time over footage of him apparently attacking skateboarders defended his actions on Tuesday as being guided by a divine presence.

“When I stepped in, I felt compelled by a higher power,” 58-year-old Thomas Hammer told the Orange County Register. “Honestly, have you ever been grabbed by the Lord in a way you never thought you would or you could? That’s exactly what I’m testifying to, and I’m not speaking in hyperbole. I’m speaking right from the heart.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/20/calif-man-says-the-lord-grabbed-him-and-compelled-him-to-attack-a-kid-on-a-skateboard/

How come the Lord never tells me to do stupid harmful stuff?

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Man says ‘the Lord’ grabbed him and compelled him to attack a kid on a skateboard (Original Post) doxydad May 2014 OP
Oh the irony ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #1
that sounds like something the Christan god would do bowens43 May 2014 #2
Well, according to the Ben Sasse, GOP Senatorial Candidate in Nebraska, that's his RIGHT. hatrack May 2014 #3
There's a guy running for the US Senate seat in NEbraska who wants this to be legal. MohRokTah May 2014 #4
All of the major faiths and faith leaders attack others and claim God told them to. Bluenorthwest May 2014 #5
Seems like the Lord also made him terrible at throwing the skateboard KurtNYC May 2014 #6
"fat old faggot?" Le Taz Hot May 2014 #9
Who cares if it's nutty and destructive if it's FAITH, where reason isn't allowed to criticize. n/t devils chaplain May 2014 #7
It must get boring up there in the clouds. woo me with science May 2014 #8
. . . Le Taz Hot May 2014 #10
That crazy Lord! Tom Ripley May 2014 #11

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
3. Well, according to the Ben Sasse, GOP Senatorial Candidate in Nebraska, that's his RIGHT.
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:05 AM
May 2014
GOP Favorite In Nebraska Senate Race: Religious Belief Justifies Breaking Any Law

Republican “rising star” Ben Sasse is predicted to win the Senate seat being vacated by Republican Mike Johanns in November by a wide margin, as Nebraska is a solid red state. On his official campaign website, Sasse claims that he “believes that our right to the free exercise of religion is co-equal to our right to life. This is not a negotiable issue. Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.”

As ThinkProgress’s Ian Millhiser and Josh Israel note, Sasse’s statement could allude to the upcoming Supreme Court decision as to whether Hobby Lobby can violate federal law if that law is not in accordance with the beliefs of its principle owners — a decision which the adamantly pro-life and virulently anti-Affordable Care Act candidate Sasse agrees. “Uncle Sam is in the abortion business for the first time in 41 years,” he wrote on Facebook. “It’s important to remind our neighbors of the urgency of standing up for the most vulnerable.”

Sasse’s belief that the government cannot compel a citizen to behave in a manner contrary to his or her religious beliefs “under any circumstances” goes even further. As Millhiser and Israel write, “under Sasse’s formulation of religious liberty, a person who killed his own sister because he believed he was under a religious obligation to do so would be immune from prosecution for murder.” The effects of Sasse’s interpretation of the law would not be limited to birth control and honor-killings. “Under Sasse’s preferred rule,” Millhiser and Israel write, “a person who believes that they violate their religious beliefs if they are late to church could ignore the speed limit, traffic lights, and stop signs if obeying traffic laws would cause them to miss just one minute of their church’s Sunday service.”

Sasse also believes that the right to exercise lethal force to protect family and property “pre-dates Government”: “The Second Amendment affirms the rights of Americans to protect their families and property. This right pre-dates Government and is inviolable.”

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014803807
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. There's a guy running for the US Senate seat in NEbraska who wants this to be legal.
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:10 AM
May 2014

Seriously, he thinks that doing anything for your religious beliefs should be legal.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. All of the major faiths and faith leaders attack others and claim God told them to.
Wed May 21, 2014, 09:03 AM
May 2014

This man is doing physically what the whole of the faith community does all day, every day in their words and legal actions. In addition, in many countries there are open pogroms against LGBT people being supported by Bishops of the Catholic and Anglican Churches as well as independent denominations who all say God has told them to put all the gay people in prison or kill them.
God is in the mix, I'm a Christian so I am against those people having rights, God is also opposed to them having rights- this is what Democrats were saying just a few months ago. Now they all pretend they were ACT UP members in the 80's, but truth is until recently they virtually all said God told them to oppose the civil rights of their neighbors.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. Seems like the Lord also made him terrible at throwing the skateboard
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:16 AM
May 2014

and perhaps gave that child Tourette's syndrome:



Child: "Hey! WTF?! (unintelligible but sounds kind of like 'fat old f*ggot'))...give the f**king board back...hey f**k you old F**ker! F*CK YOUUUUUU!"

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
9. "fat old faggot?"
Wed May 21, 2014, 10:33 AM
May 2014

Yeah, the old dude is wrong but what the hell is it with the youngins and their hate speech?

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