Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:42 PM May 2014

Christie Cuts N.J. Pension Payments to Close Budget Gaps

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie said he’ll reverse course on promised pension contributions this year and next, cutting back to balance the budget after revenue fell short of his goals by as much as $875 million.

This year’s payment of $696 million will be less than half the planned $1.58 billion, Christie told reporters in Trenton. For fiscal 2015, the payment will be $681 million, less than one-third of the record $2.25 billion he had proposed.

New Jersey faces a cash shortage next month, with $2.6 billion due on tax- and revenue-anticipation notes, or TRANs, and just $2.2 billion on hand. The 51-year-old Republican, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, has refused to raise taxes to remedy three straight years of missed revenue.

“This is a political decision -- it’s all about 2016,” Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute in West Long Branch, said by telephone. “Now that he’s not the odds-on favorite of the moderate wing of the Republican Party, he’s got to win conservative voters. He’s got to do everything in his power not to raise taxes.”

Continued at Link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-20/christie-to-reduce-new-jersey-pension-payment-this-year-and-next.html

For those who are unaware Christie already negotiated a cut in pensions in exchange for, among other things, this payment. Now he is refusing to look elsewhere to come up with the payment he promised in exchange for pension cuts. Also, Christie has ignored his state budget director for the last couple of years. The state budget experts came up with an estimate on revenue, Christie thought the revenue would be higher and of course he was wrong. He upped the estimate, passed a budget based on that estimate and then when revenue fell short (usually right where the budget experts said) he went after pensions. Pay attention to this, I believe it's the new GOP union-busting tactic.

25 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Christie Cuts N.J. Pension Payments to Close Budget Gaps (Original Post) okaawhatever May 2014 OP
Lying piece of shit!! so much for the Pension reforms bigdarryl May 2014 #1
Conservative soul stealing from hard working Americans tooeyeten May 2014 #14
He Sucks But... billhicks76 May 2014 #19
He was also hoping for an absurd $1.5 billlion from Internet gaming on the top line BeyondGeography May 2014 #2
He plans to run for POTUS. That is one of the things that is so sad, he knows that his campaign okaawhatever May 2014 #3
Well I think the media would cover for him as they have bigdarryl May 2014 #4
Time for some Faux pas May 2014 #5
Good one. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #6
Thanks. Faux pas May 2014 #7
If we're going to have a third world country ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #8
Take from the pensioner, give to the already rich and corporatons, yet the pensioner will vote Fred Sanders May 2014 #9
it's how pensioners got screwed in the 1st place leftyohiolib May 2014 #10
It is an old, tired trick, repeated by governments and corporations everywhere. Fred Sanders May 2014 #12
dare we say a lockbox leftyohiolib May 2014 #13
SO, what gives him the right to rob workers of their just compensation The Wielding Truth May 2014 #23
Because it is a contract and not a trust it is treated legally as a frustrated obligation...too bad. Fred Sanders May 2014 #24
Pension cuts are the cruelest of cuts SoCalDem May 2014 #11
Exactly! marew May 2014 #22
There is not enough wealthy people in New Jersey... DontTreadOnMe May 2014 #15
It started with another "Christie"... Grins May 2014 #16
Tha calculation is that... Helen Borg May 2014 #17
Plus the Koch Brothers probably triple his campaign contributions everytime he screws a labor okaawhatever May 2014 #18
How they liking him now? If he did get the repuke nom would he win NJ? thanks, okaa nm Cha May 2014 #20
You know what asiliveandbreathe May 2014 #21
Well after all he's political toast Zambero May 2014 #25
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. Lying piece of shit!! so much for the Pension reforms
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:44 PM
May 2014

The Law enforcement in NJ pay more into the pension system under this refore and this buffoon is still talking about more reforms

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
14. Conservative soul stealing from hard working Americans
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:59 PM
May 2014

For the benefit of billionaires across America who will back anyone who steals from the worker to give to the rich, to bankroll a presidential run!

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
19. He Sucks But...
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:01 PM
May 2014

Jeb Bush supporters are cheering his downfall. That Bysh family is so evil we cannot let them steal the White House. In my opinion their favorite democrat is Hillary who I also would never vote for. I still can't believe she wouldn't support gay marriage until recently where it would guarantee her votes. Shame.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. He was also hoping for an absurd $1.5 billlion from Internet gaming on the top line
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:47 PM
May 2014

It's pacing around $150-$200 million. If he ever ran for President it would be amusing to watch him tap dance around all his fiscal follies.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
3. He plans to run for POTUS. That is one of the things that is so sad, he knows that his campaign
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:51 PM
May 2014

donors will fork over more money since he screwed the unions. They will also buy the media who will make the internet gaming failure a non-story.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
4. Well I think the media would cover for him as they have
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:51 PM
May 2014

This state has been in a funk since he's been Governor and the media never tells the story of NJ's economy

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Take from the pensioner, give to the already rich and corporatons, yet the pensioner will vote
Wed May 21, 2014, 02:04 PM
May 2014

for Christie anyway? Because he promises to make up the shortfall.......something, something.... We all know pension benefits will be slashed in the future to make up the difference, it is the way the thieves in political power balance the books now, hand it off to a distant future population.

How brainwashed can the media make people?

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
10. it's how pensioners got screwed in the 1st place
Wed May 21, 2014, 02:43 PM
May 2014

then when the bill comes due he'll say the union this and the pensioners that, greedy civil servants need to cut cut cut

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. It is an old, tired trick, repeated by governments and corporations everywhere.
Wed May 21, 2014, 04:42 PM
May 2014

Pension obligations of the pensioner are paid every paycheck, the employer gets to make contributions whenever they feel like it into the fund to support future pensions, "future obligations" are booked as a future liability and when the time comes, presto, no money.......the money needs to be put in an untouchable trust.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
23. SO, what gives him the right to rob workers of their just compensation
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:16 PM
May 2014

for the years of labor they invested. They were guaranteed a pension. It was written down and they depended on it. They worked for it. If it is taken, it has been stolen and that is criminal. Am I correct?

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
11. Pension cuts are the cruelest of cuts
Wed May 21, 2014, 02:53 PM
May 2014

People who bypassed raises when they were young and fit (to get a better pensions later) have been cheated TWICE.

They may have had to do without when they were young & healthy, and now that they can no longer work, they are stripped of money they counted on.

As someone who is retired (and husband retires in 2 months) I can tell you that we count on EVERY penny, and since you are flying blind into old ages, you just never know what;s ahead.

We have devolved into a mean-spirited nation that regularly steals from the poorer to fatten up the wealthy..

marew

(1,588 posts)
22. Exactly!
Sun May 25, 2014, 01:29 PM
May 2014

I took a lower paying job when when I was young and got out of grad school BECAUSE of a promised pension and worked hard for over 32 years. Thank heaven I live nowhere close to NJ!
Pensions should be called what they really are- deferred compensation.
Corporations and the 1% rarely even pay taxes and yet they want to rob what's left of the tax-paying middle class even more. I've read that a number of hot-shot politicians and corporate CEO's are sociopaths. Obviously there's some truth to that statement!

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
15. There is not enough wealthy people in New Jersey...
Fri May 23, 2014, 11:44 AM
May 2014

oh wait.. NJ has "3 in the top 10" of wealthiest counties in the United States.. think maybe some of those people could afford to pay a little more?

Nah... take it from the Pensions!

(take note.. the dollar figure is the AVERAGE yearly salary)

1 Loudoun County Virginia $117,876
2 Howard County Maryland $108,844
3 Fairfax County Virginia $107,096
4 Hunterdon County New Jersey $105,186
5 Arlington County Virginia $100,474
6 Stafford County Virginia $97,606
7 Putnam County New York $96,223
8 Somerset County New Jersey $95,825
9 Douglas County Colorado $95,324
10 Morris County New Jersey $95,294

When are the middle class going to stand up and fight?

Grins

(7,217 posts)
16. It started with another "Christie"...
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:22 AM
May 2014

That one named Christie Todd Whitman. She was the first to stop making payments to the pension fund to cover her - tax cut! Year after year this went on; and then, when there wasn't enough money, the ambulatory Macy's balloon look-alike raided the transportation fund. $90 Billion in debt.

New Jersey is screwed. Screwed.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
17. Tha calculation is that...
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:12 PM
May 2014

Last edited Sat May 24, 2014, 07:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Many of these pensioners will not be around to vote next time he needs a vote.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
21. You know what
Sun May 25, 2014, 10:46 AM
May 2014

I am so done with NJ voters - you get who you vote for - it seems they don't know what is going on - and this is what happens when you don't pay attention to the vetting - until it comes up and bites you in the arse..and now they have been bitten...how do you like 'im (Christie) now NJ?

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
25. Well after all he's political toast
Mon May 26, 2014, 10:57 AM
May 2014

There is no longer the need for any pretense of Christie being a moderate. And nothing to stop him from doing what Republicans do and would so more of if given the chance. Unwittingly conservative middle class voters, behold another enacted policy that will make many of you regret that you even considered voting for these people.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Christie Cuts N.J. Pensio...