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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:26 PM May 2014

White men should be prepared to lay down their lives to fight bigotry

Let's face it. As THE most privileged group on the planet, we have far more ability and responsibility to fix the problem than anyone else on Earth. We are the only ones with the financial and social resources to reach and influence other white men.

Yes, it could cost one's social standing. It could cost customers, employees, career, even one's physical safety.

But we must be prepared to stand up. When someone makes a sexist, racist, or homophobic joke - don't laugh, not even a nervous laugh. Get in their face and make them understand what kind of vile pig they are. Let them know that jokes and statements and every type of bigotry will be punished socially and financially to the best of your resources.

Shame that person in public. Print flyers and post on the Internet about who they are and what is wrong with them. If you have any control over their employment, fire them and hire a disadvantaged person for the job (which should be the default setting until there is no difference in social standing or economic resources between white men and the most disadvantaged groups). If you are an employee, quit. Even if it leaves you and your family homeless and destitute, you will still have your honor.

Shun your family and "friends" if they don't achieve harmony with all races and all genders. And, in those one in a thousand cases where there may be a physical confrontation: accept your beating or (really unlikely) death with dignity, knowing you tried to stand up for those who are incapable of standing up for themselves.

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White men should be prepared to lay down their lives to fight bigotry (Original Post) FrodosPet May 2014 OP
No thanks, not my job and not interested. dilby May 2014 #1
Your post reveals you as either cowardly tabasco May 2014 #16
Actually, I don't believe in The White Man's Burden dilby May 2014 #23
Why not let THE MOST PRIVILEGED group fight for the common man and woman? You know, why not let valerief May 2014 #2
Are you kidding ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #3
He is mocking. boston bean May 2014 #13
You go first. Throd May 2014 #4
Extra points for saving the planet, plus a Darwin Award nomination. nt Xipe Totec May 2014 #5
You're kidding - right? badtoworse May 2014 #6
Bet you are a hoot at parties... IoNP May 2014 #7
If the person making the joke is themselves non-white.... Llewlladdwr May 2014 #8
Or a blond telling blond jokes. pintobean May 2014 #10
I have to say .... the nights I help my friend out in her bar here, polly7 May 2014 #22
My dad wasn't SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #9
Swoon, beggars and downtrodden, before the feet of your angelic liberators. BEHOLD! Gravitycollapse May 2014 #11
It's a joke. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #15
I smell boston bean May 2014 #12
Yes, I am desperate FrodosPet May 2014 #20
I love it, this is art! Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #14
Someone is fishing for reassurance that silent geek tragedy May 2014 #17
No. Just trying to figure out what is expected of me FrodosPet May 2014 #18
An in-your-face authoritarian wannabe would piss me off real quick. Skip Intro May 2014 #19
Bull fucking shit TransitJohn May 2014 #21

dilby

(2,273 posts)
1. No thanks, not my job and not interested.
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

But good luck with that, anything you would like to be added to your Eulogy after you lay down your life?

dilby

(2,273 posts)
23. Actually, I don't believe in The White Man's Burden
Thu May 29, 2014, 11:37 AM
May 2014

It's arrogant to believe the world can only be fixed by white men.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. Why not let THE MOST PRIVILEGED group fight for the common man and woman? You know, why not let
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:33 PM
May 2014

the ruling class, which suppresses and exploits the common man and woman, fight FOR them?

Oh, it doesn't work that way? Well, maybe if the ruling class gave up some of their privileges. Oh, Hell will freeze over before that happens? Well, I'm out of ideas.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Are you kidding ...
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:37 PM
May 2014

the current generation wouldn't/aren't willing (outside of internet claims) to lay down their leaves to address their own income inequity issue; what makes you think they'll lay down their lives for something that does not directly benefit them?

Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were the very, very, very rare exception.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
8. If the person making the joke is themselves non-white....
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:53 PM
May 2014

is it okay to laugh, or do I still need to attempt to destroy their lives?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
22. I have to say .... the nights I help my friend out in her bar here,
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:31 PM
May 2014

it more often than not IS the blond, brunette, red-head .... whatever, woman telling some of the worst sexist jokes. No-one I know tells racist jokes though, I can't remember hearing even one.

 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
9. My dad wasn't
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:57 PM
May 2014

too proud that I married a Mexican gal. We overcame it with humor. Didn't take long and he told her he thought he saw her down at Taco Bell trying to pay our phone bill. I thought she was going to wet herself laughing. They used to poke at each other a lot. She was a wreck when he died. Same with co-workers. We joke with each other about stereotypes. Nothing hurtful but funny stuff. There's plenty about me to laugh at. I welcome it. Laughter is the best medicine. We need more of it. If you can't laugh at yourself, you are your problem.
My current wife's (ol' white lady) mom makes comments about black people we see when we're out. I always come back with humor completely counter of the response she's looking for. She's coming around although she's in her 80s. The last one was a young black gal in short shorts with her mom at the DMV. "Did you see that black girl showin' herself back there"? "Did I see her? I couldn't take my eyes off of her! She had a perfect figure! Beautiful gal!" My wife concurred. "Flaunt it while you got it". I'm allowed to look. MIL finally agreed.
We can't change the past. It happened. The future is what we make it.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
11. Swoon, beggars and downtrodden, before the feet of your angelic liberators. BEHOLD!
Wed May 28, 2014, 08:12 PM
May 2014

For they have risen like the savior himself to cast out the hypocrites and the wicked! They ride into battle, these white knights, ready to bleed their selfless sacrifice upon the faces of the condemned!



This post lacks even an iota of self-awareness.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. Yes, I am desperate
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:24 PM
May 2014

I don't want to be the villain. But I guess my parents gave me no choice.

I admit my white skin, anf the privilege it brought, means I will never fully understand the oppression of others, no matter how hard I try.

Should I just give up and accept I am a privilege white asshole, and nothing will ever change it? Should I embrace the villain role?

Please. can you offer me something besides snark?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. No. Just trying to figure out what is expected of me
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:19 PM
May 2014

I am seriously, honestly confused about what, if anything, I can do to make the world a better place.

I've acknowledged my privilege. I've looked within my heart and soul, and tried to exorcise any prejudices I may have. I was taught at an early age to respect people who are different than me, so I think that made it easier for me than for others who grew up in less diverse circumstances

I keep reading over and over that the whites who are trying to evolve have a responsibility to stop other whites from committing bad behavior. So when I start a conversation about how to do just that, well I guess that is wrong as well.

I suppose all I can and should do is keep my mouth shut and let wiser people tell me what to say and think. I just wish I was smart enough to know who the wiser people are.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
19. An in-your-face authoritarian wannabe would piss me off real quick.
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:22 PM
May 2014

Nobody needs your fucking permission to speak.

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