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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu May 29, 2014, 07:30 PM May 2014

Given A Binary Choice... Who Do You Trust More... Snowden, Or The NSA ???

No obligatory other this time.


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NSA
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Given A Binary Choice... Who Do You Trust More... Snowden, Or The NSA ??? (Original Post) WillyT May 2014 OP
Question Authority grasswire May 2014 #1
Question reality mindwalker_i May 2014 #13
No hesitation PuraVidaDreamin May 2014 #2
Can't say I fully trust the NSA but I don't give a rat's as about Snowden either. Kaleva May 2014 #3
Let's see: An agency of espionage with nearly zero public accountability... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #4
I would put my "trust" in neither ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #5
I'm with you. Dawgs May 2014 #19
C'Mon Everybody... I've Been Informed Here That DU Polls Don't Count If We Don't Get Enough Votes... WillyT May 2014 #6
Oh... I'll Be Kickng This A While... Gotta Get Those Votes Up... WillyT May 2014 #7
Snowden, all the way Willy Autumn May 2014 #8
I trust Snowden more. Uncle Joe May 2014 #9
Yes. No hesitation on my part. 840high May 2014 #17
Clapper already lied to Congress. dawg May 2014 #10
:) Separation May 2014 #11
Hey, WillyT Uncle Joe May 2014 #12
Not quite sure about Snowden... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #14
The NSA, and it's not even close Algernon Moncrieff May 2014 #15
96% for Snowden - k&r! nt bananas May 2014 #16
Snowden is erratic, the NSA is consistent aikoaiko May 2014 #18
Neither. Arkana May 2014 #20
I can't, in good faith, vote for a binary choice justiceischeap May 2014 #21
I respect the DUers who voted for NSA. Octafish May 2014 #22

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
4. Let's see: An agency of espionage with nearly zero public accountability...
Thu May 29, 2014, 07:39 PM
May 2014

Or a guy who gave up a fantastic life to live a shitty, hunted existence in Russia so that the world would know about the transgressions of the former?

How is that even a contest?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. I would put my "trust" in neither ...
Thu May 29, 2014, 07:50 PM
May 2014

The NSA does what it is supposed to do ... spy. That gives me pause against "trust"; however, they do so with a measure of Congressional and Judicial Oversight, just like what's supposed to happen in our form of government.

Snowden took it upon himself to steal classified documents and release them to media outlets, including foreign outlets, then took refuge in Russia ... that gives me pause to trust; however, the only oversight that restrains him is his own conscience ... that gives me more pause to trust.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
6. C'Mon Everybody... I've Been Informed Here That DU Polls Don't Count If We Don't Get Enough Votes...
Thu May 29, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

Apparently if you get over a hundred or two votes in any direction, that does not count because it under represents the will of DU.

So call your family, your friends, your neighbors, PM everybody here... get 'em on the record.

Let's see where you stand!

BTW - As a country, we are lucky to get HALF of eligible voters to come out and vote during a Presidential Election... even less during a Mid-Term Election... our current problem.

And as the saying goes... "If you don't vote, you don't get to complain."




dawg

(10,626 posts)
10. Clapper already lied to Congress.
Thu May 29, 2014, 08:32 PM
May 2014

I'm sure there are many good people at the NSA, and that for most of them, their primary purpose is to catch bad guys and protect us. But the current situation is ripe for abuse.

Hell, Snowden is proof of that, even if you consider him a spy and a traitor.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
11. :)
Thu May 29, 2014, 08:35 PM
May 2014

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awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. Not quite sure about Snowden...
Thu May 29, 2014, 10:04 PM
May 2014

but I definitely don't trust the NSA, so that is where my vote went.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
15. The NSA, and it's not even close
Thu May 29, 2014, 10:20 PM
May 2014

Snowden is a traitor, and I hope he eventually gets to spend 23 hours a day staring at blank walls in an ADMAX.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
20. Neither.
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:53 AM
May 2014

Snowden's motives have become personal and this "leak a little, watch the press shit itself with glee" thing he's got going shows he cares way more about the attention than he does about exposing the truth. He's letting the Russian government use him, and quite frankly the US is a paradise of transparency compared to the police state that is Russia right now.

That being said, what the NSA is doing scares the bejesus out of me, and someone needed to speak up.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
21. I can't, in good faith, vote for a binary choice
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:54 AM
May 2014

because this is not a black & white matter. Do I think the NSA is culpable of wrong-doing? Yes, I do and it started shortly after 9/11 and has continued since.

Do I think Snowden's motives were pure? Hell no. I think he's culpable of trying to tarnish the Obama administration and that his actions are tainted at best, nefarious at worst. I don't think he was motivated by patriotism in the least.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. I respect the DUers who voted for NSA.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:04 AM
May 2014

Those who support the NSA on threads up and down DU but don't want to put their feelings down in this OP, where their 2 cents can be tabulated and compared, not so much.

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