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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:28 PM Jun 2014

How do *you* feel about fuckety-fuckin' fuck sprayed across DU?

Not just fuck, of course. Also the other stuff that would have gotten my mouth washed out with soap if I'd said them as a child.


26 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
I'd prefer fewer nasty words.
9 (35%)
#%^* you. I'll write #%^* all #%^*in' day long, you #%^*
12 (46%)
Manny, it's telling that this post doesn't acknowledge the suffering of women and black Americans
5 (19%)
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How do *you* feel about fuckety-fuckin' fuck sprayed across DU? (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 OP
Message hidden by word police L0oniX Jun 2014 #1
Message unhidden by the fuck police... madinmaryland Jun 2014 #20
Well we did have the chicken wars, so we might as well have the fuck wars. Autumn Jun 2014 #2
Word. blueamy66 Jun 2014 #38
I think those authoritarian types who feel they have to be perpetually outraged for quinnox Jun 2014 #3
If they ban fuck I might as well stop posting NV Whino Jun 2014 #4
If we can still post words like "Cheney", "Limbaugh", and "Coulter" tularetom Jun 2014 #5
Frankly, dhill926 Jun 2014 #6
I couldn't. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #7
I don't like the seemingly sardonic nature of the third option. joshcryer Jun 2014 #8
Is this another reference to your discovery of my ownership of Conservative Cave? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #9
We can all speculate. joshcryer Jun 2014 #13
lol, I missed that. So Manny, you own the conservative cave? Do you also own Free Republic? quinnox Jun 2014 #15
I'm just waiting till he pisses me off, then I'm going to sell his personal info to the highest Autumn Jun 2014 #51
So your real name is Frank nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #24
I thought it was Dr Emeilo Loza Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #48
Pitbulls breastfeeding at Olive Garden Generic Other Jun 2014 #10
Misty. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #11
Yeah… I had it coming... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #12
You are the culprit who caused the Great Fuck breakout of 2014? Autumn Jun 2014 #16
Well… shucks... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #17
I like the waay you think. There should be a shrine built to worship you for Autumn Jun 2014 #18
Yeah, I thought it was one of my better snarks to no one in particular... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #19
That was good nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #25
Indeed In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #29
Words to live by pscot Jun 2014 #71
Can't believe that post was hidden. distantearlywarning Jun 2014 #54
I have a looooong list of things I worry about. OriginalGeek Jun 2014 #14
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #35
This started out as a site for grownups, not a kiddie friendly site Warpy Jun 2014 #21
Where's the option for "I don't give a fuck" Lancero Jun 2014 #22
+1 Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #30
Trust me, except for the purity brigade nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #23
the eschewing to profane deeply wounds me. NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #26
I will defend but don't have to like. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #27
Frankly, I don't give a damn if some want to say fornicate it. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #28
I think some people need to take a deep breath and book a bus tour with this firm in Germany: DFW Jun 2014 #31
It doesn't look like any of their tours go to Fucking Austria. independentpiney Jun 2014 #41
They do, too! Here's your link. DFW Jun 2014 #49
dont care Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #32
just the latest bullshit battle du jour... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #33
I am a bit of a prude with my language. Laelth Jun 2014 #34
When vulgarity becomes the message, the message is lost. randome Jun 2014 #36
It's not worth getting outraged about, but ... surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #37
I'll take fuckety-fucks over ratfuckers any day...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #39
Yeah rats don't like it whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #62
Fuckin' A! I love profanity. Chan790 Jun 2014 #40
Indifferent. retread Jun 2014 #42
My mom, my sister, my grandmother, my grandchildren read this site GusBob Jun 2014 #43
...and our church displays it on our jumbotron. L0oniX Jun 2014 #57
the sermonizing is quite amusing... KG Jun 2014 #44
For about 2 minutes pscot Jun 2014 #72
I think there should be a trigger warning. 1000words Jun 2014 #45
The most obscene language of course is formed with the 'cleanest' of lexicons Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #46
+1 Gemini Cat Jun 2014 #68
your poll is fucking self censored bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #47
I feel some do it just to be antagonistic and saying as much constitutes encouragement to them. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #50
I voted for the second option, like most others. distantearlywarning Jun 2014 #52
I find it hard to believe that some people have so little going on in their lives notadmblnd Jun 2014 #53
I don't give a fuck about fuckety-fuck Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #55
I think we'll fucking lose elections if we don't focus on something real. Cannikin Jun 2014 #56
"Sprayed across"? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #58
DU is not a hangout for children Bettie Jun 2014 #59
I can understand the anger that many people feel about the insanity that just won't let up... truth2power Jun 2014 #60
I prefer it to censorship whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #61
Kind of a push poll. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #63
If it's a push poll, then I suck at it MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #64
Its damn irritating when a good topic/thread gets derailed over someone's outrage with one word riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #65
Even tho I was reflexively inclined to pnwest Jun 2014 #66
no problem with cursing bigtree Jun 2014 #67
Trashcanning. Skidmore Jun 2014 #69
kick Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #70
I don't "feel" anything abakan Jun 2014 #73
Depends on context. LWolf Jun 2014 #74
I don't give a flying fuck LiberalEsto Jun 2014 #75
Fewer 'vulgarities' desirable. elleng Jun 2014 #76
I really don't care Prophet 451 Jun 2014 #77

Autumn

(45,795 posts)
2. Well we did have the chicken wars, so we might as well have the fuck wars.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jun 2014

I well remember the taste of soap. But my parents up and died on me so I use that word to get even with them . I'd like to see them try to wash my mouth out with soap now.
















 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
3. I think those authoritarian types who feel they have to be perpetually outraged for
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jun 2014

everyone else, and "protect" them from seeing stuff, need to find a new hobby. People are adults, and can decide for themselves what they find objectionable, they don't need someone to tell them.

As for the "F" word, ok, I think it is used too much on Du, and loses its effect as a result. But here is the difference, I don't whine about it, or finger wag to others like a self-righteous "church lady" about it. Instead, I ignore it, and move on. If only everyone were so tolerant and liberal on here.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. If we can still post words like "Cheney", "Limbaugh", and "Coulter"
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jun 2014

"Fuck" and those other words that would have gotten your mouth washed out don't sound so bad.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
9. Is this another reference to your discovery of my ownership of Conservative Cave?
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jun 2014

BTW, I'd appreciate it if you kept my true identity, as the Cave's owner, a secret.

Thanks.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
15. lol, I missed that. So Manny, you own the conservative cave? Do you also own Free Republic?
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jun 2014

Secretly, of course. Do you control both sites from your underground bunker?

Autumn

(45,795 posts)
51. I'm just waiting till he pisses me off, then I'm going to sell his personal info to the highest
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jun 2014

bidder on DU.


Just kidding Manny

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. So your real name is Frank
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:59 AM
Jun 2014

Which in this case is orders of magnitude more offensive than fuck! Cheapskate at least do a nice dinner with a good 100 buck bottle of chianti, we liberals like the wine and latte.

Generic Other

(28,999 posts)
10. Pitbulls breastfeeding at Olive Garden
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jun 2014

think BARK is a four-letter word.

* And my mother used hot sauce on my wicked tongue.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
12. Yeah… I had it coming...
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jun 2014

I see my post was alerted (easy guess who did it), and now I see how ridiculous this place can be.

Do I really care if people can't use the remote and change the channel if they don't like my occasional "rude" language? I'm not upset about things like that. They've banned better persons than myself here for pushing the envelop of truth.

No… What I seem to care more about is the manner in which people define themselves liberals or their ability to recognize the obscenities in this present world.

I love that you said, "would have gotten my mouth washed out… as a child".

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
19. Yeah, I thought it was one of my better snarks to no one in particular...
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jun 2014

I wonder if it was the "CU next Tuesday" that got to em, or the fact that I said what so many say here all the time, "fuck em if they can't take a joke".


Warpy

(112,771 posts)
21. This started out as a site for grownups, not a kiddie friendly site
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:12 AM
Jun 2014

It's only since the jury system came in and disruptive people found out what a dandy weapon it could be against both the site and specific people on the site that they started going alert crazy, disrupting forums and getting good people threatened with bans.

I honestly don't give a flying fornication at a rolling doughnut what such people think. Instead of trying to transform this site into a kiddie friendly site, they might be a lot more comfortable on more mainstream discussion boards.

I know a lot more words than they do and much clinical language sounds a hell of a lot dirtier than the occasional "fuck" directed at politicians and policies that so richly deserve it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Trust me, except for the purity brigade
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:54 AM
Jun 2014

I really don't give a frack about what language these cabrones chose to use. While they worry about words, there are real issues at heart.

(And it does feel good to express oneself when it really matters little)

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
41. It doesn't look like any of their tours go to Fucking Austria.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:03 AM
Jun 2014

I've had Fucking Austria on my bucket list for awhile now. Nice bus line otherwise

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. dont care
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:03 AM
Jun 2014

in fact not caring at all implies a slightly higher level of caring than I think I actually hold on the matter.

If there is an absolute zero of not caring, I'm in some sort of Bose-Einstein condensate state of total lack of caring, approaching the theoretical limit whereupon I literally could not care less, not even as a figure of speech but a real physical impossibility.

Although recent discoveries in quantum physics have implied that absolute zero may not even be absolute zero at all, that somehow it is possible for things to be colder than containing absolutely no heat.


Likewise, I remain open to the possibility that despite giving absolutely 0.000000 shits about "bad words" on DU, it might be theoretically possible for me to enter, albeit temporarily, a state whereby I cared even less than that.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
34. I am a bit of a prude with my language.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:17 AM
Jun 2014

I rarely curse, but allowing vulgarity has always been one of DU's hallmarks, as far back as I can remember, and I think it's important that we keep it that way because I want the forum to be open to a very wide group of people, some of whom tolerate or use vulgar language, themselves, quite regularly.

I am sensitive to the latte-sipping liberal argument. I'd like American liberalism to go back to its roots as a working-person's operation. That means it must shed its o-so-academic, and o-so-superior, and o-so-snobby image. Much of that image may be well-deserved.

People who are starving and lack medical care don't give a shit what language we use. If Democrats want real people to vote for them, they need to be focused on bigger problems than the language people use.

-Laelth

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. When vulgarity becomes the message, the message is lost.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:35 AM
Jun 2014

Those who write for the sole purpose of being crude only telegraph that they've given up on their childhood dream of being someone of consequence.

Instead, they've settled for entertainment value.
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surrealAmerican

(11,447 posts)
37. It's not worth getting outraged about, but ...
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:42 AM
Jun 2014

... it's also not a good substitute for meaningful conversation. If cursing is all a person can think of to say, they maybe just don't have much worth saying.

GusBob

(7,450 posts)
43. My mom, my sister, my grandmother, my grandchildren read this site
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:28 AM
Jun 2014

except ,well they don't exist!
That one really gave me a startle, but I overed it

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
45. I think there should be a trigger warning.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:34 AM
Jun 2014

For those of us who actually did get their mouths washed out with soap, and experienced the ill effects of soap poisoning:



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
46. The most obscene language of course is formed with the 'cleanest' of lexicons
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jun 2014

Declarations of war, laws of oppression, sermons and dogmas which teach hate and discrimination are always without 'bad words' but they still manage to add up to evil intentions and they create, with their good words very bad outcomes for real human beings.
An example from this week would be the March For Marriage, filthy sentiments without a single 'bad word' because those bigots don't like 'bad language'. DU hardly spoke of that obscenity at all, almost as if a gathering intended to communicate hate toward a minority group was not worth mention.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
47. your poll is fucking self censored bullshit.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

But I voted for the option that looked like it might have been the right one.

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
52. I voted for the second option, like most others.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:54 AM
Jun 2014

I am very tired of the language police on DU. They travel in swarms and furiously push the alert button on any post that contains a term they personally find offensive, and eventually they find enough jury members who agree with them to be able to effectively censor to their liking.

I don't know when this dynamic started here (and I mean the perpetually outraged, group-swarming, must-conform-to-our-viewpoint-or-else stuff too), but it's all very unpleasant, and frankly, pointless. There are so many important things to worry about in this world, and all we seem to care about on DU anymore is exhaustively nannying one another's language. It makes us look stupid and it doesn't change anything. FUCK that.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
53. I find it hard to believe that some people have so little going on in their lives
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

that all they have to do is scour web pages for profanities and then complain about them.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
55. I don't give a fuck about fuckety-fuck
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jun 2014

but I care about the use of derogatory terms that carry the baggage of oppression.

Quick, what's that six letter word for Negro/black/African-American? Is that just a "fuckety-fuck" term? What about four letter words for Jews, like the one that rhymes with bike? Is that just fuckety-fuck too?

Yet somehow if it's a term for women with similar history and connotation, it's just the "purity police" around here who give a shit.

Bettie

(16,749 posts)
59. DU is not a hangout for children
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jun 2014

As that is the case, one should expect adult language at times. Added to that is the fact that many people are frustrated and yes, angry at things going on.

It isn't a Junior League garden party or an Embassy dinner, it's an internet discussion board.

All the people getting their undies bunched up over a few swear words are making people want to use more profanity, not less.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
60. I can understand the anger that many people feel about the insanity that just won't let up...
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

and they don't know what to do with it.

And, "Gee, golly, gosh darn" just doesn't cut it, somehow.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
61. I prefer it to censorship
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

I think the current profanity surge is a backlash from the Rude Pundit hide. Let's let things die down a bit before we look for a "solution".

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
63. Kind of a push poll.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jun 2014

Do I care about general cursing? Not really. Although I'm surprised there isn't a general rule against it in titles, or text that appears on the main site page, to prevent the site being temporarily blocked by many workplaces that have filters up until such words scroll off the front page.

People cursing just to show they can? I remember doing that, back in grade school. Most people grow out of it. They may curse every day, but not simply because they think it annoys other people. That's petty and juvenile.

People using ethnic slurs, sexist slurs, homophobic slurs? Shouldn't be happening, and if they get alerted on, or even banned? Well, that's their own tough luck.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
65. Its damn irritating when a good topic/thread gets derailed over someone's outrage with one word
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jun 2014

They then rev up the outrage machine with their friends. Won't listen to any explanation and simply "j'accuse!"

Racist, homophobic, misogynistic, sexist, bigoted or they simply don't like the word "fuck" - they throw the label out there and the actual discussion of a good topic devolves into a flame fest.

I guess my OP about meegbear's RP hide has set off a GD firestorm but that hide just epitomized the state of discussion on DU this past year and my frustration with the persistent derailment of good topics.



pnwest

(3,279 posts)
66. Even tho I was reflexively inclined to
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:19 AM
Jun 2014

fucking select option #2, I had to fucking vote #3 since I support comedy gold whenever fucking I find it.

I find substitute "cuss" words such as "fracking", "flippin'", or "dang it" just about as useful as flameless candles, non-alcoholic wine, decaf coffee, and other such lame-ass shit. Don't get me started on e-cigs...

And, when I encounter these phony-ass puritans in the world who are so outraged over a fucking word, I ever-so-politely point out that I find "murder", "rape", "war", and "misogyny" to be words that represent far more reprehensible concepts than the thing described by the word "fuck". That usually shuts 'em up pretty fucking quick...fake-ass, puritanical, holier-than-thou fuckfaces that they are.

bigtree

(88,823 posts)
67. no problem with cursing
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jun 2014

. . . cute, tho, how you included the 'suffering' of women and black folks to round out your joke. Creepy stuff. But, I guess I'm confused about where the sarcasm ends and the advocacy begins in your posts.

abakan

(1,884 posts)
73. I don't "feel" anything
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:23 PM
Jun 2014

If adults want to use adult language, fine. But to use this word to disturb someone else is childish.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
74. Depends on context.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jun 2014

I've got nothing against strong language, although I prefer it to be used sparingly and to good effect, rather than sprayed everywhere because someone's too lazy to craft a better phrase.

I draw the line at what I consider hate speech: epithets putting down an individual or a group.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
77. I really don't care
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:58 PM
Jun 2014

If people use fruity language, especially when riled, that's neither here nor there to me.

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