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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:34 PM Jun 2014

When people who are against feminism post that Justice Ginsburg should retire

I am not going to believe for a moment it is because they want her to be replaced with a justice with her record on issues important to gender equality (even if the person asking claims they are liberal).

I'm not buying.

And nevermind that Stephen Breyer, who is never talked about for retirement in this way, is as close to life expectancy as Justice Ginsburg.

I think a lot of this is disingenuous.

When I hear someone who actually supports what Justice Ginsburg supports say it, I take it seriously. When I hear someone who opposes, I am being played with.




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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
5. As far as I know, I never agree with you about anything.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:52 PM
Jun 2014

But when you're right, you're right, and I fully endorse what you've said here. Obvious troll from the start.

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
15. This is the second time you have tried to call me out.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jun 2014

I will not let your libelous attacks stand. Here are some of my "right wing" posts on such topics as Income Inequality, the Republican Party, and Abortion Rights (FYI for the sarcasm impaired, my views are far, far left on most issues including those, and gun control as well). You may not agree with everything I've got to say, but that doesn't give you the right to attack me and call me names, either.

Here is JI7's original callout:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5172162


Michigander_Life (385 posts)

Two simple steps to fix income inequality

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:10 PM - Edit history (2)

Executives make more than they should, while workers make less.

1. All companies should be forced to link the minimum and maximum wages it pays. Mandate by law that the maximum wage cannot exceed 25 times the minimum wage that a company pays. For example, if the highest paid employee of a company makes 1m per year, the lowest paid employee cannot make less than 40k per year. If the executive feels his contribution worthy of 2m per year, that's fine, but that raises the base pay to 80k. CEOs are unable to responsibly pay their employees. It's been proven time and time again. Now it's time to force what they had the chance to do voluntarily. Michael Duke of a Walmart gets paid 35 million dollars a year. His associates would be making 1.4m/ year (or, *gasp* he may have to take a pay-cut).

2. Enact a living wage for all Americans tied to inflation and standard of living so that no one gets left behind again.



Michigander_Life (385 posts)

The Republican Party is NOT Sustainable

It simply isn't. The radical right Tea Party is splintering from the less radical GOP already, and that fracture is picking up steam with each passing election.

The demographics of our country are changing, and they all favor US. Soon, there will be more persons of color than whites. Soon, the republican base -- older conservatives -- will simply be dead. There aren't many more election cycles left for them.

Women and LGBTQ, minorities and immigrants, the entire damn 99%, are being held down by draconian Republican values and policies. I'm visualizing the Republican Party trying to stuff their fingers and toes into the leaks in their political, obstructionist dam. They're doing this with jerrymandering, dirty money and fearmongering. But they're simply delaying the inevitable.

When the dam breaks, and mark my words, it IS breaking, there will be a sweeping flood of liberalism and progressivism across the land.

Republicans aren't sustainable. If we can win the presidency in 2016, there will not be another republican president for decades -- or until they abandon their policies of intolerance and inequality.


Michigander_Life (385 posts)


Create our own buffer zones, a lot larger than 35 feet

If the anti-choice crowd can muster bodies to protest, why not beat them at their own game? Let's start a movement in which pro-choice activists descend on every clinic in the nation, and physically occupy the space before these anti-choice harassers can.

This can be a temporary movement while we work to construct abortion clinic facilities that are designed to maximize the private property surrounding the facility. I'm imagining clinics surrounded by private grounds, accessible from multiple avenues and enterances, in which protesters cannot ever lawfully be wjthin even earshot of patients.


Michigander_Life (385 posts)

5-4: We've lost Hobby Lobby; Corporations can practice Catholicism

A dark day for America.

Hobby Lobby is now a religious corporation in a 5-4 decision. Ginsburg's dissent calls the majority opinion a "decision of startling breadth."

http://scotusblog.com


BOYCOTT Hobby Lobby! Send the message that this WILL NOT be tolerated.


Michigander_Life (385 posts)

69. I hope Scalia and Thomas die from diarrhea induced dehydration



Michigander_Life (385 posts)

The 28th Amendment


It's time we amend the constitution to require a balanced budget, with a restriction that limits military / defense spending to 5% of the budget or less and a provision that firmly and permanently shifts the tax burden from the middle class to the wealthiest Americans by raising the highest tax rate to 90%.

BootinUp

(47,148 posts)
2. Today I have seen a few posts that just don't
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jun 2014

pass the smell test. Maybe its just that I am paying more attention and they are always there.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
6. I worship at the feet of Justice Ginsberg,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jun 2014

but I am concerned about her health. She has had both colon and pancreatic cancer, and those are very serious cancers with low survival rates.

I want her eventual replacement to be as progressive as she is, but that could be difficult. The potential for a Senate majority party change in 2014 or a Presidential party change in 2016 could mean that getting the best replacement could be chancy at best for the next six years.


Yeah, I know. Get out the vote. I'm just trying to be realistic. And if Justice Breyer has any similar health concerns (not that I am aware of any), he should be looking at retirement, too.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. I do see the attaction of having Obama appoint a 40-something progressive to the court,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jun 2014

who will be there for decades. But I think it's distasteful to try to bully a wonderful woman like Ginsburg to quit a job she loves and is good at. She has earned the right to set her own schedule.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. Who's against feminism here? I'm a feminist who thinks she should retire
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jun 2014

so she can be replaced by another strong feminist who can be on the court for decades.

Otherwise, under the Roberts Court, which Ginsburg herself says is the most activist in history, we can watch her be replaced by a conservative, and see all her work undone.

The Court that overturned the voting rights act of 1965 won't have any problem overturning any decisions that depended on Ginsburg's vote.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
11. Right and my message said *if* someone who is anti feminist posts that she should retire
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jun 2014

I consider that disingenuous.

There are a number of MRA types or sympathizers who would like to see her retire, not for the reason you're stating, but because they don't like her 1) because she's a woman and 2) she's the most liberal justice at the moment.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. If Justice Ginsburg were to announce her retirement next week, a replacement could be confirmed.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jun 2014

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Not even the Republicans would dare to state openly that the seat should remain vacant until January 2017.

They would try to achieve that result sub rosa by stonewalling any Obama nominee. In practice, though, Obama would nominate someone who, although to the left of Kennedy, was well to the right of Ginsburg, to make sure that all the Blue Dogs would be on board. Then, if necessary, Harry Reid would go nuclear -- the previous action, disallowing filibusters for lower-court appointments, would be extended to the Supreme Court.

After the summer, though, things get dicier. The Republicans would be able to stall it past the midterms. If they then took the Senate majority, they might well be so brazen as to refuse to confirm even fairly conservative nominees, if those conservatives weren't all-out ideologues like Scalia. We would hear a LOT about Bork.

Going much farther down the what-if road... the Senate lineup is such that the Republican advantage this year gets flipped in 2016, when the Democrats defend fewer seats and the close races will be for seats now held by Republicans. One possible scenario is that, in 2016, the Republicans take the White House but the Democrats take the Senate. I hope the Democrats wouldn't just docilely confirm President Huckabee's nominee. If they don't, we could go several years with an eight- or even seven-member Supreme Court.

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