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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 06:06 AM Jul 2014

The F-35 Fighter Jet Is A Historic $1 Trillion Disaster {image heavy}

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f-35-is-a-disaster-2014-7?op=1

This was supposed to the be the F-35's big month.
The troubled next-generation fighter jet was going to make its international debut at the Farnborough Air Show in England. The U.S. and its partners would have something to show for their years of delays, setbacks, and cost overruns.

They would have nothing less than a functioning version of the most advanced warplane in history.

This potential breakthrough has hit an all-too-typical stumbling block.

The Air Force temporarily suspended all F-35 flights after one of the planes caught on fire before takeoff at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. Even if the plane does debut later this month, it still has some serious issues, and a long way to go before it can be rolled out for combat missions. Already, the plane is expected to be delayed for over a year beyond its projected mid-2015 delivery date.

In 2011, the plane was grounded twice with electrical problems. One incident in August of 2012 resulted in a complete failure of the aircraft's integrated power package, which combines the functions performed by an auxiliary power unit, emergency power system, and environmental controls.


Developers have also discovered major issues with its software, which Air Force Maj. Gen. Christopher Bogdan once called "the gorilla in the room."


And it's supposed to fool enemy radar with stealth capabilities. But stealth coatings have been found peeling off, and the Pentagon report mentions — but does not describe — a "classified" deficiency. Bill Sweeney of Aviation Week says, "dollars to doughnuts it has something to do with stealth."
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The F-35 Fighter Jet Is A Historic $1 Trillion Disaster {image heavy} (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2014 OP
Thanks Obama! ( n/t ) Make7 Jul 2014 #1
Just curious, why Obama? MH1 Jul 2014 #10
I think this was a /sarc post IDemo Jul 2014 #12
Ah, ok. Hope you're right. MH1 Jul 2014 #15
It's a thing. Iggo Jul 2014 #14
LOL, thanks. Somehow I had managed to miss that. MH1 Jul 2014 #16
They're also having problems with the $500 k brain bucket. unhappycamper Jul 2014 #2
+1 xchrom Jul 2014 #3
Back in 1990 Marconi (now Bae) was trying to develop such a helmet intaglio Jul 2014 #5
Just imagine what that money would do for infrastructure, schools, research…. n2doc Jul 2014 #4
+1 A Little Weird Jul 2014 #6
well, since we've spent it on useless armaments we THEREFORE "don't have the money" MisterP Jul 2014 #7
That's OK. We can palm them off to Al Queda to defend us from Isis at a bargain price. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #8
From the late, great Bill Hicks: LongTomH Jul 2014 #9
One of the greats, and gone way too soon.. SomethingFishy Jul 2014 #17
Combat missions against who? Some dude in a C-4 vest? A roadside dead-dog bomb? hatrack Jul 2014 #11
War profiteers are traitors. tabasco Jul 2014 #13

MH1

(17,600 posts)
10. Just curious, why Obama?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jul 2014

Isn't this a program that's over a decade old?

And think of the jobs in all those congressional districts. Hell, Congress won't even stop funding crap the Pentagon ASKS them to discontinue. (There are news articles about examples of this problem from time to time).

Obama has many failings but I'm not sure this one can be laid on him.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
15. Ah, ok. Hope you're right.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jul 2014

I did sorta suspect that but figured I'd post anyway, just in case.

You can never be sure at DU.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
16. LOL, thanks. Somehow I had managed to miss that.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jul 2014

I was laughing my ass of at that but at the same time realizing how much it actually sounds like some people I know IRL. So, hilarious and tragic all at once.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
5. Back in 1990 Marconi (now Bae) was trying to develop such a helmet
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:18 AM
Jul 2014

and I knew one of the developers. He reckoned the only way to do it efficiently was to make the pilot helmet a kind of "pickelhaube" with a spike on top to correct head position information and optimise data transmission. It would also make cracking the canopy in case of ejection much easier.

He was only half joking ...

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Just imagine what that money would do for infrastructure, schools, research….
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:00 AM
Jul 2014

instead of pissing it down a rathole for defense CEO salaries. Those other things provide jobs too, but don't have the same level of lobbyists.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. well, since we've spent it on useless armaments we THEREFORE "don't have the money"
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jul 2014

for infrastructure, R&D, education, domestic affairs

after 1970 Boeing and Rocketdyne needed a new talking point other than "we have white coats so nobody can disagree with us" and "what if Columbus had been told no?" (once it turned out space exploration was more Weddell than Cook)

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
9. From the late, great Bill Hicks:
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jul 2014
Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.




.....and unfortunately, that imagination is currently, very, very dark!

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
11. Combat missions against who? Some dude in a C-4 vest? A roadside dead-dog bomb?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jul 2014

Oh, wait, forgot - the ever-present threat of Teh Russia. And Teh China. But mostly Teh Russia.

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