There Was No Stand Down Order: The Release of the Benghazi Transcripts Busts Republicans

[doxydad]

Republican Benghazi-gasms appear to be shriveling under the sunshine of transparency.

Wednesday evening, Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA), Chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services, decided to release the transcripts of interviews of nine military personnel conducted between January and April of this year regarding the attacks in Benghazi. McKeon has been saying for a while now that he’s satisfied with the military’s response to the Benghazi attack, but it seems no one in his party is listening to his attempt to keep them from attacking our servicemembers.

Darrell Issa (R-CA) earned himself Four Pinocchios for claiming that Secretary Hillary Clinton ordered former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to “stand down” during the Benghazi attacks and now Democrats are demanding an apology.


http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/09/there-stand-order-democrats-bust-republicans-completely-baseless-benghazi-conspiracy.html
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[Thinkingabout]

1. Hey,Hey, you can not be posting something truthful about Benghazi, this could ruin Issa reputation.

Just kidding, thanks for the report. This is something which was explained by the military and the possibility of the military responding quickly was not a part of the solution, Issa had to know this if many of our citizens know he was just running a game, fooling those who wanted to produce an issue against SOS Clinton. Oh, BTW, the amount of money spent on his investigation needs to come out of his butt or the GOP who was pushing for an impossible result of the investigation.

[Snarkoleptic]

2. Issa will not apologize.

Also, the front-line wingnuts will not soon drop this meme as they have too much invested in it to admit they were wrong.

It's a Rovian thing-

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

From the article Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?_r=3&ex=1255665600&en=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&

[freshwest]

16. Thanks for that link. And it's a powerful alternative reality they're running over us with...

[Snarkoleptic]

23. It's quite scary to think that so many people have such poor critical thinking skills.

Of course, the RW paymasters don't want critical thinking, they want a populace that is just smart enough to get their bidding done without asking questions.

This was included in the education section of the 2012 Texas RepubliClown platform-
"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs..."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

George Carlin crystallized it quite well here-

[freshwest]

24. RepubliClown - perfect. Thanks for that link. The Carlin pieces have begun to wear on me, though.

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The analysis is good, but some use it as an excuse to give up. A lot of people can't afford to do that, never did. Life is not a series of skits and one-liners that replace reality and allow us to stand back safely and laugh, because life demands the best we can do.

But yeah, societies have always been organized into rigid hierarchies that seek to force people into a niche that is less than beneficial, just to survive.

There are a lot of willing peons, as I call the less well off the RepubliClowns. They either have not sought or been given the opportunity to lift themselves up and hate it, So they satisfy themselves by keeping busy putting others down.

That they may have been victims at the start of the process, doesn't mean they're not perpetrators now. That's where they are the most dangerous.

They want revenge on a lot of people for their lives, or what they thoughttheir lives should have been. They never snap at the hand they think is feeding them but will savage everyone else they can.

Thus they're doomed and will take us with them, I fear.

Thanks for you good posts to me here.

[Snarkoleptic]

31. Carlin entered a really dark period near the end his career.

Some of his later HBO specials seemed to indicate he was in a really bad place.

I agree with your analysis above!

[calimary]

29. This is a quote that EVERYONE on our side needs to keep upper-most in mind.

THIS is how they operate, how their mindset works, where their priorities are, and the cradle - indeed, the incubator - of their agenda.

They're "history's actors" alright. Actors deal in fiction. Actors are the leading lights and purveyors of make-believe. And this ain't no reality show.

[WinstonSmith4740]

30. Thanks for posting this.

I've been looking for that aide's "we create our own reality" speech for a while. My RW friends don't believe it ever happened, 'cause y'know, it was never on Fox.

Got the whole article in my files now. Thanks!

[Snarkoleptic]

32. It certainly gives some insight into what the Rove-Luntz crowd is all about.

I also recommend reading this...

[WinstonSmith4740]

33. Thanks for the suggestion.

Looks interesting. On my way to amazon now.

[joshdawg]

3. "Democrats are demanding an apology. "

Democrats can demand all they want, they will never get an apology from republicans. Apparently, republicans can do anything they want, say anything they want without any fear of the truth being thrown at them. They never apologize for anything they do or say and Issa is one of the ringleaders of that way of "thinking."
In other words, IOKIYAR.

Vote Democratic!

[Scarsdale]

4. Costs

How much have all these investigations cost taxpayers so far? Who voted ISSA into office, and are they upset that he has wasted time and $$$ on this, instead of doing his job? Imagine the shape people COULD be in if the gop invested all that effort into problems, such as unemployment benefits, ending wars, fixing infrastructure? It is either dig, dig, dig trying to find the President did something wrong, or forming ANOTHER committee to investigate something that has already been shown to be NOTHING. I noticed that when the President flew into Dallas, Dubya did not make a courtesy visit to the airport. As in "Where's Waldo" the democratic party should be asking "Where's Georgie?" Is he confined somewhere for some reason?

[greymattermom]

5. art therapy

He's in an outpatient mental health treatment plan doing his art therapy.

[marble falls]

8. Better he paints.

[marble falls]

6. Yeah but the secret transripts ..... they exist! Darrell's seen them in a fever-dream!

[rtracey]

7. This is HUGE

This is huge, this needs to be brought out at every town hall meeting in every state of this country. DNC and all should be jamming this down every media outlets throat. Every Democrat that is a true democrat, progressive, liberal, or even care about anything should be facebooking this, screaming this, posting and messaging this to everyone they know. And after this is done, then we need to scream and do the same thing about the f'd up waste of tax payer money this has become, and what it will be.....VOTE DEM

[Ilsa]

9. This needs to be the lead on every news show.

Along with how Dr. Susan Rice was correct, PBO caught the SOB who planned the attack, and how every criticism from the GOP extremists was a LIE.

[rtracey]

10. agreed

[mountain grammy]

11. The GOP is dominated by crooks and liars and Issa is the worst..

[eShirl]

12. k & r

[Rozlee]

13. *Yawn* That's the response from Benghazistas.

At least, that's the most nominal response. Their ideas will run the spectrum of mind control of our military personnel to every other nutty conspiracy theory out there. Benghazi is a cult belief in the GOP now. Just like 2 out of 3 Republicans still believe Saddam had WMD's before the Iraq War, no transcripts or evidence to the contrary will make them believe otherwise. The truth doesn't phase cultists. They don't live in the real world.

[progressoid]

18. Yep. This doesn't fall in the bounds of normal debate.

These people live in a different reality.

[Botany]

14. Can we now stop pissing away money?

[freshwest]

15. We want our millions back, spendthrifts! And Obamacare covers proctology and urgent care.

Because you urgently need to get your head out of your asses. There's no light there, you know.

[Fred Sanders]

17. The Fox cult mentality permits no one bought by Ailes to go off script. Looks like at least one

Republican has not joined the propaganda hen house.

[Fla Dem]

19. Let's see if the MSM give this as much coverage as they did the lies. nt

[LoisB]

22. Surely you jest?

[String Fiesta]

20. Why is politicus the only place reporting this?

Nothing anywhere else I've found.

[LondonReign2]

21. Pfftttttt! Don't expect facts to sway them

To right-wingers, facts absolutely do not matter. They believe what they believe, no matter what the actual evidence shows. Global warming, the Laffer curve, Benghazi...the list is endless.

[DesertDiamond]

26. I'm kind of agog that my congressman, Buck McKeon did something right for once

[Cha]

27. SOS Hillary at the time and President Obama can laugh in their gop collective face.

[JEFF9K]

28. Pinocchio noses ...

All Republican politicians and pundits should be fitted for them.

[AgingAmerican]

34. Too late

Once a stupid idea starts ricocheting around the RW Alternative Information Reality, there is no dislodging it.

[Hekate]

35. KnR. One up for Sec of State Hillary Clinton. nt