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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIdiot Utah DA says family killer who earlier duct-taped mother to chair "flew under the radar"
How this fool got to be a district attorney is anyone's guess, but the Stay family is a victim of his and Utah LE stupidity, as well as the NRA's bone-chilling and sociopathic greed (gun manufacturer lobbyist dollars).
Ronald Lee Haskell, who shot to death most of his ex-wife's sister's young family yesterday in Spring, Texas, has had a very long history of domestic violence, most of it taking place in his home state of Utah. He has served various bouts of probation, and has had a protective order placed on him (at the behest of his ex-wife), just this past October in Utah.
However, even with that protective order in place, and with an incident just this past month where Haskell, in California, duct-taped his mother to a chair and choked her (for speaking to his estranged ex-wife), Utah authorities completely fell asleep on the job in keeping tabs on Haskell. Today, after the murders, they say:
"This guy was flying under the radar," (Utah DA) Linton said. "He hadn't committed any serious crimes up here other than that domestic violence."
Someone with a protective order placed on him who then duct-taped and choked his mother (with the state of CA placing their own restraining order on him) simply "flew under" Utah's LE radar? And how did this violent gun-loving freak get his guns in the first place? Why didn't the authorities seek him out take away his guns? Maybe because the NRA is bribing enough politicians to prevent LE in most states from actively removing guns from the hands of clearly dangerous people.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)had it been "someone important" it would have been on their radar
MagickMuffin
(15,958 posts)Killed the whole family except one of the oldest daughter and is in the hospital.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,958 posts)Now we have to wonder if he crossed state lines with the weapon. He obviously came to Texas with the intent to kill, however many people who "interfered" in his wife's life. He was on his way to his in-laws, when he was cornered by LE.
Truly a sad situation. I'm sure Cassidy is going to feel very empty for quite some time to come!
On Thursday, the only good news to emerge from the tragedy, was that Cassidy was removed from intensive care and is expected to recover from wounds to her head and hand. But she faces a future without her father Stephen, 39, mother Katie, 34, and her siblings - Bryan, 13, Emily, 9, Rebecca, 7, and Zach, 4.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Words fail me. So other than the fact that he's shown a propensity for violence against multiple women, he's never shown himself to be dangerous. Got it.
I'm guessing that if I were to hypothetically duct tape the DA to a chair and choke him, he wouldn't be making excuses for me and talking about how other than that I was a swell guy. I get that he is trying to cover his ass for not doing his job, but surely he could come up with something better than this nonsense.
frylock
(34,825 posts)someone needs to lose their damn job at a minimum.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)One of my co-worker's sisters had to go into hiding because her ex with a restraining order tried to kill her on her lawn, then assaulted an elderly neighbor who came to help. He was arrested, but let out on bail. Next, he went and shot up her parents home. They were sitting on the couch but the shots thankfully missed them. The cops wouldn't arrest him for that because they didn't have direct evidence he did it. Then he had one of his friends try to run her off the road on the way home from work at night. He kept leaving messages saying he was coming to kill her and their son and the police just said to wait until his hearing. She knew she would be dead by then, so she went into hiding until his trial. He was convicted but will be out in six years and sends her threatening letters and his friends threaten her in person. She has moved to get away from the whole ordeal, but he still has parental rights that they are trying to get taken away so she can leave the state.
While I was working in college, a girl with a restraining order and multiple calls to the police that her ex boyfriend was trying to break into her apartment while she was there. Again, cops "hands were tied" because he had not broken any laws according to them. He brutally murdered her in her apartment.
It happens all the time and it is incredibly scary. We do not have the law to deal with these sick people, and too many (mostly) women are assaulted and killed. And yes, they often are able to buy guns with no problem. They can buy from any private seller or gun show.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)in our good old boy society.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)At least this thread about this senseless murder is getting a little attention.
It is extremely disturbing and depressing how little attention these crimes get, considering how common they are.
kcr
(15,320 posts)I can't believe anyone buys that bullshit.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It happens way too often.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)"This guy was flying under the radar," (Utah DA) Linton said. "He hadn't committed any serious crimes up here other than that domestic violence."
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A SERIOUS CRIME!!!!!
redqueen
(115,103 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)I mean that's surely a worse crime than this vicious abusive asshole gunning down four kids and his ex sister in law and her husband in cold blood right?
Cause really, only a thousand or so women are murdered by their partners or ex partners every year in the US... and of course a few of the women's kids and ither family members
So yeah pregnant women doing drugs is obviously way more worthy of outrage and anger. Totally.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)was it even possible for the cops to see the entirety of his criminal record?
redqueen
(115,103 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)is there a single national system that everyone's record is placed in?
There is an obvious problem here. Just trying to figure out exactly what it is.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's still too often treated like it was in the 50's. Something that just happens and not really that big of a deal.