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Through the Trees in l'Estaque by Paul Cezanne
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Big Trees at l'Estaque by Georges Braque
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You begin to see what Georges friend and gallery partner, Pablo, meant when he said My one and only master...Cezanne was like the master of us all.
LEstaque is where Cezanne first confronted modernity and tradition. He painted 26 works there, between the mid 1860s and the early 1890s. When Monet and Renoir visited Cezanne there in 1882-3, they focused on the rocky crags of the villages surrounding countryside. Their romantic wilderness sent Renoir into raptures.
Renoir's Rocky Crags at l'Estaque
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In the last 10 years or so, we have seen several of these duets of museum exhibits. They attempt to prove out the relation of Cezannes works to the modern art works of later artists --- such as that of Braques reworking of Cezannes lEstaque, in what is termed analytical cubism. (1909-10). Had not the master, himself, famously said in 1904 that artists should treat nature in terms of the cylinder, sphere and cone, all set in perspective?
Before Braque began painting the landscape of L'Estaque, in southern France, the town had been a favorite subject for Cézanne, whose 1907 memorial exhibition in Paris had a great impact on the younger artist. This painting makes visible Cézanne's influence on Braque's developing Cubist style. Braque employs Cézanne's progressive gradations of color and flattened, inaccessible spaces.
Braque also did something else: he cut out the sky. Depth of space around objects became largely lost or, at best, ambiguous. He said,It is not enough to make people see what one has painted; one must also make them touch it.
Did Braque fragment forms and objects and then reconstruct them or was he more likely inspired to go with a spirit of experimentation...a try on, in order to see how things might work out as he went along?
As Cezanne had painted side by side with Renoir in LEstaque, Raoul Dufy worked beside Braques during part of the summer of 1908, producing his own Green Trees at LEstaque."
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Dufy, however, was more influenced by Matisse than by Cezanne...he didnt have the same impulses toward realism. His work in this era has been compared to tapestry, with stylized natural forms, arranged with decorative effect in a shallow setting. He would soon abandon his affection for Cubism.
So then we have to say that in those years Paul Cezanne invented Cubism with his late works at LEstaque, dont we?
Or was it Cezannes reconciliation of depth and roundness with his desire to preserve the flatness of the pictures surface as a reality?
Whatever the artists sensibility at the time, he was transforming the visible order of nature through his inventions in art.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I guess I vote with Dufy about Matisse...love the color...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)just a couple of lines on what you think....is it bad art or good art?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)those boys were sure good at music but the originals had 'em beat with Paul and Georges' stuff...
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Artist's were just on fire. They had an idea on fire about modernism and would not be put out!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I stand in wonderment and awe at the creativity of some people.
And I always enjoy your threads.
Sid
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)but it brings me joy and hope...so I am happy with it...
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)My own art historian's take on these artists is that they are such superior draughtsmen that they were able to break the forms and make them new. We see it over and over in early 20th century art. Likewise the tropes--the classicizing tropes, the idealized landscape tropes, got turned inside out. This can only be accomplished successfully by someone who has internalized them to an exponential degree.
Let's keep the discussion going, CTyankee
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)little gallery going in Paris in the early 1900s? That must have been so exciting!
fabulous period in art...one of my favorites...
I DO see a bit slower materialization of artists out of some of those tropes and into others...Matisse had to get out of his orientalist treatment of women, for instance...
Hey, I've got more for later...Vermeer, more Caravaggio, even a thread on Annie Leibovovitz...good times...I may even reach back to the big fight of Donatello's feud with Brunelleschi...not sure...
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I'm going to go a little Hegelian and say "zeitgeist" here, for want of a better term. 1900? It was lightning in a bottle, and it was fairly steady until broken up by two wars that fractured everything.
Regarding Matisse, I don't see much that's non-traditional in his treatment of women (this was part of my Master's Thesis). Degas, on the other hand, perhaps by virtue of his unique privilege, had a remarkably clear eye for seeing what was right in front of him, and setting it to canvas/paper without judgment. So far as the rendering of women goes, Degas was far more radical than even Picasso (whom I view as 98% misogynist).
More art! More art!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Regarding Matisse (and Cezanne for that matter) I was on Martha's Vineyard earlier this month and was looking around in Edgartown at the stores selling local artists works for my daughter's house (she has a great room with a big white blank wall and I suggested she look at some local stuff). I was hoping for something abstract, quite big and with plenty of bright, strong colors...something Mondrian-ish. She definitely wanted to avoid all the tiresome boat/beach art themes. I could just "see" something in bright primary colors on that wall.
Anyway, I saw stuff that had SO been influenced by Matisse (and by Cezanne for that matter)! I could understand the "lean" to Matisse at the Vineyard, esp. his fishbowls with strong fauvist color. But I was amazed at the blatant rip off of his style.
BTW, do you have any recommendations of up and coming artists who do abstracts in bright primary colors or at least websites where I could look at their work? I'd like to help her pick something and I know she'd like to be seen as a trend setter. You can PM me if you prefer...
thanks!
cali
(114,904 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)The colors and shapes are restful even with the bright colors. I especially liked the tapestry comparison. The transition from realism to Cubism is very interesting, too. Never made that connection before. Thanks for the thread.
The paintings of the trees are quite beautiful and I generally do not care Cubism pictures. But I really like those. Wonder why they are so attractive to me.
Thanks for this post and the suggestion, as I had missed it today. It was a busy day in the garden, broccoli to the freezer and thyme in the dehydrator.
Have a great weekend CTyankee!