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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMore than a 100 AIDS researchers and activists were killed on MH17
They were on their way to Australia for a large international AIDS conference. Words escape me.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/delegates-to-melbourne-aids-summit-on-doomed-flight-mh17/story-e6frg6nf-1226993197572
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)but are they better than anyone else on that plane?
Bad Thoughts
(2,522 posts)Or at least fail to stop the deaths of millions of people. The loss is likely huge for the research.
dsc
(52,160 posts)then yeah, they might well be.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)reply here.
As information comes out about who was on the plane, I am sure it will be released. Do you not feel the loss of people studying AIDS is worthwhile talking about?
hack89
(39,171 posts)Please don't put words in my mouth. Now is not the time to look for a fight - I am not interested.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Hopefully your career here will end soon.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)or a possible cure for AIDS. Don't you think that is relevant?
flvegan
(64,407 posts)bluesbassman
(19,372 posts)So pointing out a statistically large percentage of the passenger manifest who were all engaged in this vital research is relevant. We all mourn the senseless loss of each life on that flight, but the loss of so many engaged in life threatening disease research compounds the tragedy.
What makes me curious is why one would even make such a remark. The OP did not infer that these people were "better" than anyone else on that plane, yet that is your take away. Odd reaction to say the least.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)That's a fact of life that acceptance of helps simplify things.
whopis01
(3,511 posts)Or the parents that lost their child? Or coworkers whose colleagues are now dead?
The "importance" of each individual on the lost on the plane is relative to those whose lives were touched by that individual.
When someone grieves the loss of anyone they aren't denigrating everyone else.
If I had a relative aboard that flight I would be more upset by that loss than by anyone else on the flight. If you have a problem with that, well then you have a problem.
I have friends that are suffering with AIDS. The loss of a group of researchers that were working to solve that tragedy is the first personal connection I have to anyone on that flight. There are many many others who will feel the same way. Commenting on that loss in no way implies anyone was of lesser or greater value than anyone else.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)worse with this news.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)This doesn't make it better, but just being clear here and damn. Now I need to go check on friends who are involved with the conference.
hack89
(39,171 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)<snip>
Among those thought to have been killed was prominent Dutch researcher Joep Lange, a former president of the International Aids Society.
Glenn Thomas, a World Health Organisation media relations coordinator, also died in the crash, according to Dr Haileyesus Getahun, coordinator of the WHOs Global TB program.
Delegates Lucie van Mens, Martine de Schutter, Pim de Kuijer and Jacqueline van Tongeren were also reportedly on the flight.
Dr Van Mens, director of program development and support at the Female Health Company, has been involved in public health, focusing on prevention of STIs and HIV/AIDS, since 1995.
Shocked messages from friends, family and colleagues are filling social media.
Mr Langes friend Dr Seema Yasmin, from the US Centers for Disease Control, said Mr Lange was a true humanitarian.
What a HUGE loss to the world, she tweeted. Just learned that dear friend, amazing father to 5 girls and veteran AIDS researcher Joep Lange was on #MH17.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/delegates-to-melbourne-aids-summit-on-doomed-flight-mh17/story-e6frg6nf-1226993197572
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is such a tragedy all around, but it is especially saddening to hear of the deaths of those who devoted their lives to saving others. What a huge loss.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Former U.S. President Bill Clinton will deliver an address at next weeks AIDS conference.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/805940-glenn-thomas-joep-lange-among-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-victims/
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Because I know Putinists are probably toasting to these dead researchers and activists. Because that's how they are deep down.
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)all a part of gawd's plan?
The whole thing is too tragic.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)They could have had the answers for a cure. So sad, hack. All that died such a senseless loss.
I mourn them all.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, hack.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)a reasonable amount of probability, to think it was a random act of war is a high probability. But it is also possible it was a planned attack though a smaller probability. If it was planned it sets up quite a line of speculations that I won't begin to discuss as they border on tin hat. But there are many unexpected acts that have happened over the years. It just makes me put a few political strings together and I come up with some rather ugly possibilities.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Time to call these animals what they are.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Is the Putin Fan Club still cheerleading him after all this?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Russians and Republicans share a hatred of the gays and anyone who might have HIV, so how long before they make some boneheaded comments about this
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)even more tragic.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)their research is not lost. Numerous people work closely on these projects, and those left alive will continue their work.
Coventina
(27,115 posts)Putin has much to answer for.