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More than a 100 AIDS researchers and activists were killed on MH17 (Original Post) hack89 Jul 2014 OP
That's sad Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #1
Their deaths will hasten the deaths of others Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #3
If one of them had the cure to AIDS dsc Jul 2014 #4
How is posting this information making them "better than anyone else"? I am really confused by your uppityperson Jul 2014 #6
All lives have equal value hack89 Jul 2014 #7
Nice. Keep it up. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #11
Such researchers are needed to help progress toward better treatments tblue37 Jul 2014 #17
Wow. Nothing more, just wow. flvegan Jul 2014 #19
Of course not, but the work they did has serious ramifications for all of us. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #21
Oh for chrissakes... Hissyspit Jul 2014 #25
Yes. Some people are "better" than others Renew Deal Jul 2014 #30
Do you say the same thing to a crying child that lost a parent on the plane? whopis01 Jul 2014 #34
A terrible tragedy made so much enlightenment Jul 2014 #2
"activists, researchers and health workers" not just researchers uppityperson Jul 2014 #5
I changed the title of my OP. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #8
thank you, not meaning to nit pick. Thanks for posting this and kicking it again. uppityperson Jul 2014 #9
So terribly sad for them and everyone who was aboard.. thanks hack :( Cha Jul 2014 #10
terrible loss riverwalker Jul 2014 #12
Some important people in medicine on that flight Renew Deal Jul 2014 #13
How awful! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #20
Horrible. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #14
Bill Clinton was scheduled speaker there next week riverwalker Jul 2014 #15
What a horrible loss for the world. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #16
Kick, terrible loss of all lives. Agschmid Jul 2014 #18
OMG. MrScorpio Jul 2014 #22
This is making me physically ill. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23
How long before Pat Robertson says this was FLyellowdog Jul 2014 #24
One life... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #26
That's a tremendous loss to the cause of curing AIDs. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #27
To think this was an accident has defacto7 Jul 2014 #28
The Russian sponsored terrorists really don't care. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #29
Rutherless persecution of minorities, annexing neighboring countries, and the murder of civilians... DemocraticWing Jul 2014 #31
Hatred kills people IronLionZion Jul 2014 #32
That makes a this Dorian Gray Jul 2014 #33
Tragic, yes, but YarnAddict Jul 2014 #35
A loss to all humanity. Coventina Jul 2014 #36

Bad Thoughts

(2,522 posts)
3. Their deaths will hasten the deaths of others
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jul 2014

Or at least fail to stop the deaths of millions of people. The loss is likely huge for the research.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
6. How is posting this information making them "better than anyone else"? I am really confused by your
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jul 2014

reply here.

As information comes out about who was on the plane, I am sure it will be released. Do you not feel the loss of people studying AIDS is worthwhile talking about?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. All lives have equal value
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jul 2014

Please don't put words in my mouth. Now is not the time to look for a fight - I am not interested.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
17. Such researchers are needed to help progress toward better treatments
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jul 2014

or a possible cure for AIDS. Don't you think that is relevant?

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
21. Of course not, but the work they did has serious ramifications for all of us.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:24 AM
Jul 2014

So pointing out a statistically large percentage of the passenger manifest who were all engaged in this vital research is relevant. We all mourn the senseless loss of each life on that flight, but the loss of so many engaged in life threatening disease research compounds the tragedy.

What makes me curious is why one would even make such a remark. The OP did not infer that these people were "better" than anyone else on that plane, yet that is your take away. Odd reaction to say the least.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
30. Yes. Some people are "better" than others
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:29 AM
Jul 2014

That's a fact of life that acceptance of helps simplify things.

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
34. Do you say the same thing to a crying child that lost a parent on the plane?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:06 AM
Jul 2014

Or the parents that lost their child? Or coworkers whose colleagues are now dead?

The "importance" of each individual on the lost on the plane is relative to those whose lives were touched by that individual.

When someone grieves the loss of anyone they aren't denigrating everyone else.

If I had a relative aboard that flight I would be more upset by that loss than by anyone else on the flight. If you have a problem with that, well then you have a problem.

I have friends that are suffering with AIDS. The loss of a group of researchers that were working to solve that tragedy is the first personal connection I have to anyone on that flight. There are many many others who will feel the same way. Commenting on that loss in no way implies anyone was of lesser or greater value than anyone else.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
5. "activists, researchers and health workers" not just researchers
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jul 2014

This doesn't make it better, but just being clear here and damn. Now I need to go check on friends who are involved with the conference.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
13. Some important people in medicine on that flight
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jul 2014

<snip>
Among those thought to have been killed was prominent Dutch researcher Joep Lange, a former president of the International Aids Society.

Glenn Thomas, a World Health Organisation media relations coordinator, also died in the crash, according to Dr Haileyesus Getahun, coordinator of the WHO’s Global TB program.

Delegates Lucie van Mens, Martine de Schutter, Pim de Kuijer and Jacqueline van Tongeren were also reportedly on the flight.

Dr Van Mens, director of program development and support at the Female Health Company, has been involved in public health, focusing on prevention of STIs and HIV/AIDS, since 1995.

Shocked messages from friends, family and colleagues are filling social media.

Mr Lange’s friend Dr Seema Yasmin, from the US Centers for Disease Control, said Mr Lange was a true humanitarian.

“What a HUGE loss to the world,” she tweeted. “Just learned that dear friend, amazing father to 5 girls and veteran AIDS researcher Joep Lange was on #MH17.”
<snip>

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/delegates-to-melbourne-aids-summit-on-doomed-flight-mh17/story-e6frg6nf-1226993197572

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. How awful!
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:11 AM
Jul 2014

This is such a tragedy all around, but it is especially saddening to hear of the deaths of those who devoted their lives to saving others. What a huge loss.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
23. This is making me physically ill.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jul 2014

Because I know Putinists are probably toasting to these dead researchers and activists. Because that's how they are deep down.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
26. One life...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:06 AM
Jul 2014

They could have had the answers for a cure. So sad, hack. All that died such a senseless loss.

I mourn them all.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
28. To think this was an accident has
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:23 AM
Jul 2014

a reasonable amount of probability, to think it was a random act of war is a high probability. But it is also possible it was a planned attack though a smaller probability. If it was planned it sets up quite a line of speculations that I won't begin to discuss as they border on tin hat. But there are many unexpected acts that have happened over the years. It just makes me put a few political strings together and I come up with some rather ugly possibilities.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
31. Rutherless persecution of minorities, annexing neighboring countries, and the murder of civilians...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:35 AM
Jul 2014

Is the Putin Fan Club still cheerleading him after all this?

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
32. Hatred kills people
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 06:30 AM
Jul 2014

Russians and Republicans share a hatred of the gays and anyone who might have HIV, so how long before they make some boneheaded comments about this

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
35. Tragic, yes, but
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jul 2014

their research is not lost. Numerous people work closely on these projects, and those left alive will continue their work.

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