MSNBC continuing with live coverage tomorrow and Sunday daytime of all the latest

[flamingdem]

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bad news. Ari Melber is in for Lawrence. Rachel said they'd keep reporting live all weekend -- hard to believe that will continue, but who knows, they have to compete with CNN and their plane expert Richard Quest.

** Not continuing now, it's Prison currently

[flamingdem]

1. Or Don Lemon, speaking of planes

[lunatica]

30. I think you meant to say CNN.

I watched Rachel Maddow and she was excellent as always and then MSNBC, as usual seguewayed into Lock Up.

If you want to you can go in and edit your post to get it right.

[Spazito]

2. Rachel's show tonight was stellar, imo...

The focus was "Consider the Source". She did an excellent job of breaking down what is factual and known about the shooting down of MH17 versus the speculation, media hype, propaganda from Russian media outlet RT, etc.

It was excellent.

[flamingdem]

4. Omg, she was amazing I totally agree!

I haven't seen her digging into it like that for a while and when she's good she's freakin' psychic and hits all the points. She brings up the obvious too but always before others are just getting their storyline together.

[Spazito]

8. Yep, I loved how she listed what is known, what is factual...

it was quite damning as to who is more likely to have shot down MH17 and without speculation, hyperbole or conspiracy theories. She has a wonderful way of building her case by first showing what is and isn't 'there' and then, boom, she gets to the heart of it. She is one of the best, imo.

[flamingdem]

10. Yes, the fact that it takes training, probably a lot

to use that weapon was a key point to bring up. Doesn't sound like a rag tag separatist could pull that off. She was very cool with her delivery and I appreciate the lack of excess emotion when the truth needs to be dug out.

Chris Hayes did well with the IDF guy as well, but that was hard to hear.

[Spazito]

15. Chris Hayes was excellent, his questions right on point...

I was very impressed how he did not let Netanyahu's spokesperson get away with some of his statements.

[flamingdem]

16. He's really good but that guy had a hard shell around his heart

For him the dead children were - oh well an error we'll need to do better, ack!

But that kind of exchange made that interview important.

[Spazito]

17. The way all too many of the spokespersons throw out their 'sympathy, of course' statements

with all the feelings of a stone is appalling to me. It is clear when they say it it is only because it is expected not said because they mean it, imo.

[Cha]

21. That's what this article is saying, too..

U.S. officials: Pro-Russian rebels likely couldn't down plane alone

"Based on signals the missile system gave off, analysts identified it as likely to be a Russian-made SA-11, a sophisticated system of radars, command posts and launchers. Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said the rebels probably couldn't have operated on their own.

"It strains credulity to think that it could be used by separatists without at least some measure of Russian support and technical assistance," Kirby said."

More..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-officials-say-pro-russian-rebels-likely-couldnt-down-plane-alone/

Good article.

[Coventina]

5. Oh noes! Rachel doesn't believe in RT?

I guess she's now a corporate media sellout as well...



Just in case....

[flamingdem]

7. Lol, they do teach critical thinking at

Ivy League schools still fortunately.

[ann---]

12. What is RT?

[IronGate]

14. Russia Today,

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it's the mouthpiece for the Russian Govt, much like Pravda was the mouthpiece for the old CCCP.

[Archae]

36. Actually it's Russia Today.

Just a heads up.

[IronGate]

37. You are correct,

sorry about that, I'll edit it.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Spazito]

13. LOL, yep, the RT supporters would likely be going like this while watching her show....

Hisssss, booo, under the bus goes Rachel.....oh....wait....yay Rachel calling out the corporate western media, go Rachel....oh.....wait.....booo, hisss, under the bus she goes. Shades of Linda Blair's head spinning scene in The Exorcist, lol.

[Cha]

18. thanks for that, Spazito.. I don't have a tv but will try and catch that

on her website. I don't usually watch anything like this.. but, there's too many around here trying to absolve putin from his role in this and blame it on the Ukrainians.. that I want to see exactly what evidence is out there.

[Spazito]

22. It is definitely a must-watch show, Cha...

I love her shows and try to always catch them when I can, this one was one of her best, imo. She started by pointing out the ridiculousness of the RT coverage and then pointed out the hyperbole and grasping of unsubstantiated material by the mainstream media and finished with itemizing what is known, what is factual which showed why the pro-Russian gangs are most likely the ones who shot down the plane after being trained on the SAM system by Russia. It really was stellar.

[Cha]

24. Mahalo, Spazito.. I'll post this article for you, too.. it goes along with how you're describing

Rachael's show. Looking forward to it.

U.S. officials: Pro-Russian rebels likely couldn't down plane alone

"Based on signals the missile system gave off, analysts identified it as likely to be a Russian-made SA-11, a sophisticated system of radars, command posts and launchers. Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said the rebels probably couldn't have operated on their own.

"It strains credulity to think that it could be used by separatists without at least some measure of Russian support and technical assistance," Kirby said."

More..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-officials-say-pro-russian-rebels-likely-couldnt-down-plane-alone/

Good article.

[Spazito]

28. Excellent article and very much mirrors Rachel's material on this...

She showed a low-key press briefing from a NATO military person, I forget his name and position, held two weeks BEFORE the shooting of the plane reporting that Russian personnel were training the pro-Russian gang members on the SAM system which was subsequently used to shoot down the civilian plane. He also reported the SAM system was first on the Russian side of the border then was moved to the Ukrainian side held by the gangs. It was excellent.

[onehandle]

3. Has Quest reported how the plane downing impacts the attire of the Duchess of Cambridge? nt

[flamingdem]

6. Bloody 'ell I wish he'd throw in a Royal Report

I love those

[Fred Sanders]

9. Richard Quest will duck out from CNNAmerica to do coverage of fashion in Hong Kong, for CNNAsia

sneaking back for more nattering about something else he knows nothing about.....he is perfect for todays news entertainment.

Image over content, you know it.

[flamingdem]

11. Plus, he was busted for drugs and still has his job!

I forget what it was, well more power to him except I think he's a conservative.

[conservaphobe]

19. CNN just had the unbearable gasbag Stephen Cohen on there blaming America for the attack.

[flamingdem]

20. With Don Lemon letting him get away with it

I'm guessing since he was on last I looked. arg

[Cha]

25. Of course they did.. the Koch station.

[MannyGoldstein]

26. What are your specific disagreements with Cohen?

Other than his gas?

[conservaphobe]

27. America bears no responsibility for what happened to that plane. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

29. What, specifically, did Cohen say that you disagree with?

Thanks.

[Cali_Democrat]

23. Well...now they're showing that damn prison show!

[flamingdem]

33. Oh sigh, was looking for Ed to come on reporting from his fishing trip on

the latest messes in the world.

Sorry for the false advertising! Rachel said it really

[madinmaryland]

31. Well, they could be showing reruns of a Wolf Blitzer show....

[flamingdem]

32. Watch them use a graphic from the first Malaysian plane incident

Keep costs down!

Wolfie is happy to get a little play with the Middle East going kaboom

[JI7]

34. i just tuned in looking forward to Rachel Maddow and got Prison instead

[flamingdem]

35. Rachel said it would continue live but she must have meant tomorrow

will update