'MOTHERS OF ALL PALESTINIANS SHOULD ALSO BE KILLED,' SAYS ISRAELI POLITICIAN

[reorg]

In case this has escaped your attention, just as it did mine:

'MOTHERS OF ALL PALESTINIANS SHOULD ALSO BE KILLED,' SAYS ISRAELI POLITICIAN
Source: Daily Sabah

ISTANBUL – As the situation widely deteriorates in the Gaza Strip, Israeli parliament member and law-maker Ayelet Shaked has stigmatized all Palestinians as terrorists, wishing death on all Palestinians while supporting the Israeli military assault.

On Monday Shaked quoted this on her Facebook page: "Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."

"They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists," said Shaked. Standing behind the operations on Gaza, "they are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists," Shaked added.

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An Israeli writer posted an article after Shaked's posts entitled 'Why I'm on the brink of burning my Israeli passport' saying that "I can no longer stand by, while Israeli politicians like Ayelet Shaked condone the deaths of innocent Palestinian women and children".


Read more: http://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2014/07/14/mothers-of-all-palestinians-should-also-be-killed-says-israeli-politician

Angel Face and the Open Prison
by URI AVNERY
Seeing her face on the TV screen, one is struck by her beauty. It is the face of an angel, pure and innocent.

Then she opens her mouth, and what pours out is vile and ugly, the racist message of the extreme right. Like seeing a cherub parting its lips and revealing the teeth of a vampire.

Ayelet Shaked may be the beauty queen of the present Knesset. Her name is enticing: Ayelet means gazelle, Shaked means almond. But she is the instigator of some of the most outrageous right-wing initiatives in this Knesset. She is also the chairwoman of Naftali Bennett’s Jewish Home faction, the nationalist-religious party of the settlers, the most radical rightist party of the current government coalition.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/12/20/angel-face-and-the-open-prison/

[RobertEarl]

1. Israel harbors its own brand of terrorists

The US should level sanctions against such political terrorists.

We can't be seen as favoring any terrorists. That's what republicans do and we are Democrats. We need that real Change we all voted for.

[sabrina 1]

3. There are few things I've read that have caused the literal pysical feeling of sickness this woman's

hateful words just did.

It's hard to read them, let alone to know she means them. That is a very sick woman. And the saddest thing of all is she is getting her wish, those 'little snakes' she so hates, Palestinian children, are dying. That is one evil human being. To call innocent children 'little snakes' who should 'die', and demand that Palestinian mothers be killed so they 'don't bear any more of them'? I've heard some hateful rhetoric, but this has to the worst.

Are there no laws in Israel against this kind of terrorist talk, and from someone who has actual power there?

Shame on them.

RIP little ones, I hope there is a better world somewhere for you.

Thanks to this Israeli writer for his humanity and courage for speaking out against such evil:

An Israeli writer posted an article after Shaked's posts entitled 'Why I'm on the brink of burning my Israeli passport' saying that "I can no longer stand by, while Israeli politicians like Ayelet Shaked condone the deaths of innocent Palestinian women and children".

[fadedrose]

4. I suggest new elections....

with no one from this government permitted to run for positions in the new government.

Peace is impossible with this kind of junk.

[Larkspur]

5. I hear the Israel right wingers echoing US General Sheriden's statement...

"The only good Indian is a dead one."

[Duppers]

8. I'm not checking that link.

I fear both sides have their propaganda.

[stranger81]

9. Of course not.

It's a website run by Ashkenazi Jews.

[reorg]

12. are you a supporter of My Israel (Yisra'el Sheli)

and if yes, what are you doing here?

Or, since you have already arrived, could you explain My Israel's policy towards Gaza - I have trouble with the translation, they chose not to publish these details in English on their website?

[awoke_in_2003]

10. like Fox News...

she uses her beauty to convey hatred.

[mwrguy]

11. Birds want to fly, fish want to swim

Israelis want to kill Palestinian children.

[thesquanderer]

13. Like the U.S., Israel has a left, a right, and a batshit right (n/t)

[LeftishBrit]

33. No, not Israelis, right-wing nutcase Israelis

Same as not all Americans or Brits wanted to bomb Iraqi children; but the loony Right did.

[mbperrin]

14. Vile.

Absolutely vile.

Sure wish billions of my US tax dollars weren't flowing into Israel to do just that.

[Amonester]

15. I'm so relieved my late father who risked his life bombing Germany...

every night the weather permitted flying off of England is not around to read that utter BS from that ignorant, hateful women.

RIP, Dad. Love you forever.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Their mothers didn't raise them, Israel's racist, hate filled policies did, she is speaking the

language of Pharaoh and condemning her own nation.





Thanks for the thread, reorg.

[delrem]

18. Hate filled zealots like that ought not be given much credence.

Yes, they get into power. Yes, populations can go crazy. Yes, once the crazy happens "all sides" get pumped to a frenzy.

Nevertheless, I don't think hate filled zealots should be held up as speaking for "all". They should just be recognized for what they are, so they can be isolated.

[Marrah_G]

19. such hatred and lack of humanity....

I fucking hate religious zealots of all kinds.

[steve2470]

20. such horrible filth from a pretty mouth, a pity her mind is so damaged nt

[Gravitycollapse]

21. "Pretty mouth?" Seriously?

[steve2470]

22. yea I find her physical mouth pretty....

Her thoughts and her mind, ugly as hell. To further make myself clear, her spoken words and/or typed words are filthy also. Many many attractive people are like her. Clear enough ?

[Gravitycollapse]

24. Why can't a woman who says something terrible just be a terrible person?

Why does she inevitably become a "Femme Fatale?"

[steve2470]

25. shrug

an offhand comment. She's a terrible person. Have a good evening.

[Gravitycollapse]

26. Saying a woman has a "pretty mouth" is an offhand comment to you?

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Fearless]

23. No one should be killed. Ever. Full stop.

[sakabatou]

27. I hope she's kicked out of the parliament for such comments

Or... something else. I dunno.

[steve2470]

28. I hope she is kicked out of the Knesset for those comments nt

[Hekate]

29. Sounds like she could be an American Christian Wingnut, Sarah Palin for instance.

You know the saying "There's one in every family"?

A wingnut is a wingnut is a wingnut.

[Roy Serohz]

30. And a righteous "Seig Heil" to you too, lady!

Today's right wing in Israel really does demonstrate that old saw, "History teaches that Mankind learns nothing from history." (smh)

[regnaD kciN]

31. So, now we know the answer to the question...

..."How do you say 'Ann Coulter' in Hebrew?"

I guess the big difference here is that no one's elected Coulter to Congress.

[LeftishBrit]

34. Good description.

[LeftishBrit]

32. She is a vile individual.

Her party 'Jewish Home' is far-right - pretty much equivalent to the BNP and the like in Europe, with a lot of religious nuttery added.

Because of Israel's almost-pure proportional-representation system, this fundamentally anti-democratic party gets far more political influence than it should.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. She denies making those statements, says the FB post was mistranslated & deliberately misrepresented

I think we can all agree that if she actually said those things, the comments are reprehensible and ought to be universally condemned. However I also wouldn't want to attribute things to people that they didn't actually say.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Exposing-militant-leftist-propaganda-363062

[steve2470]

36. interesting, I"ll try to find her FB post

She took down her July 1st FB post (nope corrected in eta2)

https://www.facebook.com/shakedayelet

Or is there an Israeli FB ?

eta: There is a Hebrew/Israeli FB https://he-il.facebook.com/

eta2: https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/posts/596568183794945

[azurnoir]

37. Here is the translation

An article by URI elitzur, a shelved late written 12 years ago. Relevant today as it was then: "the Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we need to fight back.
No operation, no rolling, and low intensity and controlled escalation, rather than destroying the terrorist infrastructure, and Israeli targeted killings. Enough to Dim up the names. This is a war. Words have meaning. This is a war. Rather than counter-terrorism and war on extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. Both these forms of evasion from reality. This is a war between the two Nations. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? You ask him, he started.

I don't know why is it so hard for us to set the simple words in the language to put at our disposal. Why do we have to invent every two weeks a new name for this war, and not to call her by name. What's so shocking in understanding that all the Palestinian people is the enemy. All war is between two peoples and the people who launched war on war, in its entirety, is the enemy. Declaration of war is not a war crime. Certainly not a war. Rather than using the word "war" and a clear definition of the enemy. Vice versa. Morality of war (and this) is based on the assumption that the world wars, and war is not normal, and usually fights with the enemy who disobeys the orders of his elders and pay its way, and its fruit, and tshtiotav property.

And morality of war know it is impossible not to harm the citizens of the enemy. He condemns the British air force bombed and destroyed completely the German Dresden and u.s. jets destroyed the cities of Poland and ravaged half of Budapest residents, miserable places that never were bad for America, but had to destroy them in order to win the war against evil. Morality of war don't read prosecute Russia explosion and destroys the towns and neighborhoods in Chile. He denounced the peace forces or killed hundreds of civilians in Angola, and the NATO bombing of Belgrade, Milosevic's City million Iranians, old men and women and infant children. The war has to be correct in principle, not just politically, what did America in Afghanistan, including bombs of populated localities, including the creation of refugees of hundreds of thousands of people who fled the fighting, and thousands of them left home to return to.

And it's true that our battle is that enemy soldiers are hiding within the population, and only because of the support they can fight. Behind a dozen men and women, standing, without which he could not have been too bad. Participants in the programs in mosques, authors of the murderous plans, sponsors, suppliers, car shelter, and give due respect and support morlit. All the enemy fighters and bleeding in the head. It's also the mothers of the martyrs, that send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They need to follow them, there's nothing in it. They need to go, and the physical House which they raised the snake. Other small snakes grow more.

But the week's festivities and respect both houses of two murderers vile. I guess they where mourning tents, and the city come to pay my respects to my mom and dad raised the devil. The two houses need to bomb from the air, to destroy and to kill. And we have to explain that from now on every home of a martyr. There is nothing right and probably not even that useful. Each bomber should have known he was taking with him both his parents and his home and neighbors. All UM Jihad hero that sends her son to hell needs to know that she's going with him. Along with the House and all that.

The list cannot be focused. That's war. What is thwart focused preventive and unfocused. We opened this naughty war we could not finish it. The key to a ceasefire in the hands of the Palestinian people. We can only burn their fingers until you want to use them. " (Translated by Bing)

[reorg]

38. No, read carefully, she doesn't

Her reply in the Jerusalem post is to a Daily Beast article, which apparently failed to mention that her Facebook post was a quote from a "dear friend", a journalist who had recently died and like herself worked closely with Netanyahu in recent years.

But if you look at the OP again, you will notice that the article clearly refers to a quote:

"On Monday she quoted this on her Facebook page ..."

Nowhere in her JP reply does she say the Facebook post was mistranslated. Instead she complains that the cited paragraphs may not reflect the entire context of her Facebook post.

"... suggested I compared Palestinian children to “little snakes,” and accused me of fomenting Palestinian genocide. This vilification was later picked up by several bloggers and reporters, all of whom were convinced of this frightening notion, without even a scrap of fact or truth.

Let's start with my July 1 Facebook post. (...) The gist of his article was that once one side in a war attacks the other side's civilians, they can no longer morally claim a special status for their own civilians.

Go ahead, ask a Hebrew speaking friend to translate it for you, they'll confirm this is what my Facebook post was about. (...)

A call for the indiscriminate killing of children is a terrible thing. But what if the statement was that any time you kill our children, you're exposing your own children to the same fate? Still unsettling, but rational (...)"

So, in her mind, the lacking context is that "the others started it".

The ominous paragraph with "the litte snakes" is preceded by remarks about the "morality of war" or lack thereof and a list of examples of disregard for civilians in wars (WWII, NATO bombing of Belgrade, US bombings in Afghanistan).

So, the further context can be summed up with "others do it too".

But still, the actual quote and what it says is not in dispute. She cites this text without comment on her web page, she "owns" it. It is not "vilification" to say so.

"Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism… They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers… they should follow their sons [to hell], nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."

http://morallowground.com/2014/07/10/israeli-lawmaker-ayelet-shaked-calls-for-genocide-of-palestinians-gets-5000-facebook-likes/
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html

[Warren DeMontague]

45. For whatever reason, she is claiming her words and the relevant quote was misrepresented.

I'm not particularly interested in taking sides or defending this member of the Knesset, however it is worth noting that the most atrocious allegations of what she said/meant she denies and makes statements clearly repudiating their implied intent.

Maybe she's walking it back, perhaps. But there it is.

[magical thyme]

39. the face of evil.

Not the first time I've seen pure ulginess spew from behind a pretty facade.

[MohRokTah]

40. Although her politics are anathema to me, I doubt she actually said that.

Considering the sources, there has to be more to it than that. I simply cannot imagine ANYBODY in politics being that blatantly racist in this day and age.

Not even Republicans in the House or Senate get that bad.

[reorg]

41. her "dear friend" and speech writer for Netanyahu wrote that

years ago but didn't publish it. So, after his death, she goes on to put it on her Facebook page without comment on the day Israel starts bombing Gaza. That seems all there is to that.

https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/posts/596568183794945?_fb_noscript=1

[MohRokTah]

44. Even explained, it's stil pretty weird to post the day they start bombing Gaza.

Damned odd.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

42. Thankfully not all Israelis feel this way

I love that an Israeli writer was so disgusted with her that he's thought of burning his passport. This kind of hatred on either side can only end badly in the long run. One day, maybe in 100 or 200 years or more, Arab states will acquire a nuclear bomb. It's inevitable. Hopefully when nuclear technology becomes more commonplace or new scientific methods of mass destruction arise, these extreme hatreds that feed off each other will end and no one will want to kill entire peoples.

[tritsofme]

43. Difference: This sort of rhetoric is roundly denounced in Israeli political culture

I would challenge you to post the official statements of Hamas officials, where this sort of rhetoric aimed at Israelis is celebrated.

[Purveyor]

46. kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom