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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe REPUBLICANS LIE – About EVERYTHING
Republican dishonesty, not only about what they do and what they would like to do, but about the world we live in, are endemic. And the situation is getting steadily worse as Republicans daily seem more unhinged, leaving liberals and progressives shaking their heads in dismay. Do you remember last year when Public Policy Polling revealed that more Louisiana Republicans blame President Obama for the mishandling of Katrina relief efforts than blame President Bush? It is a matter of public record that Barack Obama was only a freshman senator then, while Bush had been president for half a decade. Almost half of Louisiana Republicans didnt know who to blame.
Of course, Republicans have also blamed Obama for the Iraq War and routinely pretend that there were no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil while Bush was president (9/11 anyone?). Not only that, but Fox News has excised any subsequent Bush-era terrorist attacks from public memory. Republicans have also conveniently forgotten that Bush presided over the economic collapse of 2008. Obama wasnt elected until November 4 of that year and did not take office until the following January. Of course, President Obama is currently being blamed for the immigration crisis at the border that Republicans are responsible for. Bush signed the law; Obama gets blamed. Republicans attack President Obama for taking too many vacation days. In reality, as Al Sharpton pointed out on August 9, 2013,
PolitiFact has rated this statement mostly true in that Bush spent some working vacation days at his Texas ranch. I remember Bush being on vacation all the time; Republicans dont even remember Bush. Republicans want to sue and impeach President Obama for signing executive orders, even though he has issued far fewer executive orders than President Bush, whose executive orders were not the object of Republican complaint. For example, on September 25, 2012, FactCheck.org pointed out that Obama has issued 139 executive orders as of Sept. 25 [2012] Bush issued 160 executive orders through Sept. 20, 2004, a comparable amount of time. As of June 20, 2014, Obama had signed 182 executive orders. Bush signed 173 in his first term alone, and 291 during his entire presidency. Again, if you want to count executive orders you can do so; its a matter of public record and the University of California Santa Barbara helpfully tracks them by year and president. Republicans prefer just making stuff up because the facts do not agree with the fantasies they want to push.
Republicans have claimed Obama is adding to the deficit (while they add to it themselves via tax breaks for their rich owners) when in fact he has been steadily reducing the deficit. In fact, last year, Obama shrank the deficit to a 5-year low. And as Paul Krugman points out, there was never a crisis in the first place. As with all their other scandals, it was manufactured by conservatives to advance their anti-Social Security and Medicare agenda. Democrats like to believe that when they engage the Right in debate that they do so on more or less equal terms. Both sides are, after all, comprised of sentient human beings. But Republicans have given substance to the old childhood taunt, I am rubber, you are glue, words bounce off me and stick to you. They are literally impervious to facts. And not only is President Obama magically to blame for all Bushs manifest misdeeds, he is somehow also to blame for every misdeed committed anywhere in the world. Everything that happens is somehow Obamas fault and John McCain has turned himself into Chuck Norris, able to strangle the butterfly that flapped its wings in Siberia to prevent a typhoon hitting the West Coast. Only John McCain, who voted for the Iraq War, could have stopped the Iraq War. This must make sense only to Republicans, who nod their heads sagely. If only they could do so in strait jackets, which is arguably where they belong.
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http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/22/republicans-lie.html
Scuba
(53,475 posts)That's all they've got.
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Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Why does America consider itself immune to fascism even as it hurls the word at people whose governments were overthrown by stealth or by force to march in the fascists, Ukraine being an excellent example?
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)It's not that liberals or Democrats are never wrong, or never lie. But the idea that it's perfectly okay -- even laudable -- to "believe" things that are not objectively true, has become a centerpiece of American conservative thought. They invert motivation, cause, and evidence reflexively now.
Like imagining that 30,000 scientists, not a few hundred industrialists, have the real motivation to lie about climate change, or concluding that any social safety net is a compelling motivation to be poor.
And then there is the Enemies List. Look at who Republicans claim are unreliable narrators: Teachers. Scientists. Journalism. Universities. They leave only religion and politics as the source of information on which to base an understanding of things, and celebrate a perverse vision of individualism that means everyone can pretend that the world is whatever would be most emotionally convenient for them. That greed is good. That poverty is a choice. That minority status, not majority membership, confers the most unearned benefits.
People catch on to this, a little at a time, but there is a lot of backsliding to catch up on. We're actually arguing (again) whether we should teach religion or science in science class. Whether health care reform is a plot to kill the elderly. Whether women own their reproductive systems. Whether the poor can be tricked or intimidated out of the voting process.
We spend so much time pushing back against utter nonsense that precious little discussion of anything that actually requires good-faith debate can be brought up. HOW we will deal with climate change, for example, rather than IF.
So many lies. So little time.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)I'd like progressives to seize the narrative and lunge ahead with what WE want. At least it would be intellectually motivating and bound to grab the nation's attention.
Hit em hard with income inequality in all of its' manifestations. Get that melting tundra on the tube for them. A live -feed of our domestic war dead - 80/day, names, lifestyles, locations.
Segami
(14,923 posts)... the public start addressing such republican RR extremist's conduct, positions and actions as a national security threat.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Their policies are so destructive to the lives of ordinary people that if they were truthful they would disappear as a party.
Lieing has been so successful for them that now it's the primary guiding principle of their politics.
samsingh
(17,600 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Joseph Goebbels said that the public will believe a big lie over a small one. The bigger the lie, the more the public will believe because many people think that that person.,,whoever it may be,,,would never tell a lie that big.
That is it,
That is all
The trust that the listener has for the teller is so great, that the teller can tell almost anything, and never be questioned.
And... there is also distrust for the subject being lied about...
Don't know who Joseph Goebbels is?
Hitler's minister of propaganda...He was pretty effective with his big lies, wasn't he?
Oh, one more idea....that is where the liars got the idea that they could use the so called big lie and get away with it..from Goebbels. some source for your ability to lie and get away with it....eh?.......
More info on Goebbels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels
rock
(13,218 posts)and therefore a weasel phrase. You would never use that phase for mostly work.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I am quite sure that no president is able to completely relax and divorce themselves from work, so any of their vacations would be "working vacations".
rock
(13,218 posts)TNNurse
(6,929 posts)Is both really funny and really terrifying.
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)for you and me.
However, a creationist/GOPer/teapartier/rightwinger would look at it and see no argument against their belief that non-biblical education is evil and wrong. In fact, they'd probably take it as an endorsement. Ignorance really is its own sad consequence.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hekate
(90,779 posts)If he gets Time Warner, that will make 40%. The Board is holding him off for now.