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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo we really need to use deodorant?
If you spend almost all of your time in an air-conditioned building, and you shower every day, I really question the need for it. Maybe occasionally, if on that particular day youre going to hit yard sales or going to an outdoor picnic.
I know some people might feel the need for it all the time. If youre a person who sweats a lot. If youre outside a lot, and so on.
What say you?
That is all.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and don't use underarm deodorant. Makes me sweat more when I did so I quit using it.
In hot weather I spend a good amount of time in the pool too
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)tanyev
(42,553 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)and men if I ride in a full elevator.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)We have a winner!
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)not such a stink that folks eyes water
teeth fall out
and peels paint off a barn
stench
No way.
Get in the shower and use soap and deodorant!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Pheromones. I had a girlfriend once that liked ripe armpits. Disgusting, it was.
zazen
(2,978 posts)and this awful new habit of men shaving their bodies is just yucky. Bleech. Give me chest hair moist with sweat any day (attached to the man I love, of course).
Signed,
An incorrigibly straight woman
mindem
(1,580 posts)Believe me, people need deodorant - some of the cast members who don't use it are not too pleasant to be around.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)mindem
(1,580 posts)It would seem to make sense that deodorant is a good thing, especially when you are under hot lights. Apparently some people like going au natural but i keep my distance.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
raccoon
(31,110 posts)ellenfl
(8,660 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)But Humans are less clean, so I'm not sure.
I generally use it when I'm nervous about a meeting or appointment.
Bryant
FSogol
(45,484 posts)Raccoon, make sure you wash your hands too.
REP
(21,691 posts)The risk is high enough I am not to be around babies or toddlers or drink tap water (my immune system is weak), but even a healthy person coming into contact with human feces is at risk of an E. coli infection.
Human waste can also spread cholera and hepatitis A.
teenagebambam
(1,592 posts)FSogol
(45,484 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Even in the upper elementary grades! Especially after outdoor recess! *phew*
FSogol
(45,484 posts)To answer your question, feel free to stink up your own air conditioned building, but do the rest of us a favor and wear deodorant when in public. Our civilization thanks you!
malaise
(268,980 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)No matter if you think you need it or not, you do.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)Don't be that person.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Your stink, and we all stink, is largely what you eat.
Heavy meat eaters stink more. (There have been studies)
eShirl
(18,490 posts)the bacteria that generate pit-stink like the extra surface area provided by armpit hair on which to grow & reproduce
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)a bottle of mouthwash with them. To me, a person's breath can often be worse than their B.O., I guess because it's harder to smell your own breath than your own stink. I like to take precautions just in case. I take a nice long shower every day and use deodorant and subtle scents. I brush my teeth for a long time and regularly, and eat mints when I'm going to be around others. People tell me I always smell good, which is nice to hear.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Who knows how long I live, but at least I'll be happy and won't be too offensive to others, which are my two main objectives in life.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)the preservatives in food help us live longer!
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I was being sarcastic; were you?
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)We wouldn't want to live in a world without preservatives. Lots of good foods are preserved, although they aren't as good for you as fresh foods. Those of us who are rather poor would have few options without them.
randome
(34,845 posts)Their mouths become a compost heap of rotting vegetable matter. I don't need to examine the data to understand the causation between a foul mouth and heart attacks.
I have no problem brushing at work after lunch. I wish more people would.
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LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)There's this one woman whose breath makes my eyes water when she talks to me, and she can be 10 feet away. I cringe when I see her coming. That can't be healthy.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...someone should find a way to tell her. Because it is likely to be a health issue like serious gum disease rather than just a routine failure of oral hygiene. Even if it was originally caused by not brushing, once it has progressed to gum disease, regular brushing won't cure it.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I was going to mention this upthread. I take precautions too. I have a very sensitive sense of smell and have a hard time not gagging when people have body odor or bad breath so I try my best to make sure I don't smell bad. (I once saw a crime show where the investigator is grinning and they ask her why she is grinning and she says it stops the gag reflex. I've tried it. It's true. So if I'm grinning at you...you need a mint or some deodorant).
I get compliments on how I smell as well. And it's not hard - it's just a few extra seconds a day. I carry around minty gum and mints, and make sure I shower at least once a day (and use deodorants and natural perfumes), usually twice in the summer. I am very particular about my oral health too. In my book, it's simple manners and common courtesy.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I don't want to be smelling some nasty dirty person. I don't care if you work inside or not. You still have to walk to the office, perhaps walk upstairs and at the least breath. Wear deodorant. It is cheap too.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Worn deodorant that day
merrily
(45,251 posts)If you smell, you need a deodorant, even if you showered five minutes ago. If you don't smell, you don't need a deodorant.
A lot of three year olds perspire outdoors in summer, but most of them do not give off an offensive odor. On the other other hand, people who shower even twice a day can offend without a deodorant.
And, speaking only for my body chemistry, much as I wish an organic deodorant would work on me, it doesn't--and heaven knows I've tried.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)hardly ever shampooed her hair and never used deodorant. She swore she wasn't funky and that her body just got used to it. Claimed all those products made us more dependent on them. All I know is I exercise every day, I sweat, and I stink...until I get all clean.
I think you're right. Some people don't smell bad.
When my boys were little, they smelled like puppies or horses when they came in from playing. They really didn't stink. However, once puberty hit - OH MY LAWD - the smell was unbearable. However, they did not smell it themselves. At some point, friends must have commented because they now use deodorant on a regular basis.
merrily
(45,251 posts)There have been times when I could perspire without generating body odor. And, believe it or not, even times when only one underarm had any perceptible odor and the other had none. And times when both needed something stronger than an organic deodorant. So, I think I've had variations.
Depending on one's own sense of smell is risky. As some TV ads say, you can go "nose blind" if you have been around an odor long enough, especially your own.
As for young men, yes, when they start yearning for a girlfriend in a really big way, they do ramp up the grooming and fitness, don't they?
Phentex
(16,334 posts)that they bought themselves, lol.
But I'm not complaining!
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)I spent months thinking one of our cats was peeing in our laundry room. Moved everything around, got out the old black light - couldn't find anything. Turned out it was my kids' soccer shoes. Nasty soccer shoes smell exactly like cat pee.
Early in my nurse practitioner career, I was stationed at Lackland AFB. At that time, in the mid 1970s, the US had training agreements with several countries from parts of the world where water is at a premium, and daily bathing is not a habit. We provided the health care to these soldiers and their families. Sometimes, I would have to leave the exam room door open when these families came in with their children.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Still looking for a natural solution that works... Magnesium chloride has potential.
CincyDem
(6,356 posts)Aluminum (and zirconium) have a common and unique physical property that let's them work as anti-perspirant ingredients when combined with the way your apocrine sweat ducts (under your arms) work.
Remember growing up, we all did that experiment with the jar of sugar (or salt) water and the paperclip. As the water evaporated, and the concentration of sugar/salt increased, it "precipitated" out onto the paperclip and made that cool looking crystal thing.
That's because most things precipitate out at higher concentrations. Not true with Al and Zr salts. They precipitate out as their concentration drops.
So...imagine your tiny little sweat gland (no offense intended - I'm not sure bigger is better in this category). You slather on some Old Spice/Mitchum/RG whatever AP. That puts a coating of that Al/Zr salt on your skin. Your sweat glands release some sweat and the moisture dissolves the salt but then, in an interesting physiological twist, the sweat glands pull that moisture back in...and with it the salt.
At this point the salt is concentrated in the top of the sweat gland near the surface but over time it dilutes into the entire length of the gland. Remember, it precipitates as it dilutes and so, at some point, it gets dilute enough form a little "plug". (highly technical term). Deeper the plug, the better the sweat protection.
Long explanation to a simple comment but in the end, MgCl2 will not plug because it doesn't precipitate as it dilutes.
roody
(10,849 posts)I copied Weleda's very expensive deodorant by putting some liquid essence in a spray bottle (Weleda's) of alcohol.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)You Gotta Wash Your Ass
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)But I would never spray those same cologne chemicals on my skin or use a roll-on or anything touching my skin. I've met people with tumors under their arms, heavy cosmetic users. Totally unscientific and superstitious, that's me.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)On clothes not me
Edit to add the outer side of the clothes
Heavy work I may use gold bond powder under my arms
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)It doesn't work.
There are deodorants without aluminum. You could consider one of them.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Honestly, people stink. Is it natural? Sure it is -- so is cholera and being eaten by jackals.
Still sucks.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)unblock
(52,209 posts)and an undershirt to keep others from seeing any wetness.
i don't care for constant exposure to aluminum.
Gman
(24,780 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)This is hardly a serious topic
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)"Do we really need to use deodorant?"
"In General Discussion?"
"Especially in GD."
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Have you noticed some of the threads that get kicked the most in this forum? Even threads that are ostensibly about a serious subject are nothing more than shit-stirring posts from questionable sources. There isn't much serious analysis going on in GD.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Therefore, they don't smell bad.
And you can't smell your own "scent."
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)By 6:30 am my clothes and hair have absorbed the smell of manure, horse grunge, fly spray, hay slime from the horse that rubbed on me etc. If its a day to deworm then I will also have some of that on me. Or if I have to medicate a horse with liniment or poultice or ichthammol then I'll stink like that as well....
Bottom line is that human sweat smell doesn't even register in my world. I know the farriers don't bother with deoderant. Neither do my vets, tractor mechanics, hay dealer etc.
Even more evilly sometimes I have to inflict my smelly grungy self on you all if I have to run to the store before I've had a shower (for Epsom salts or Karo to sweeten a meal for a horse who won't eat their meds or any of a million things). I need supplies off the farm but since I'm going right back to work afterwards I will just head out. I do make some concessions for you non-farm folk... I change out of my disgusting barn sneakers and put on the "nice" baseball cap.
So before you judge, please know that some of us are small family farmers or others like me in the middle of a work day. Doing solid smelly salt of the earth stuff
Kali
(55,007 posts)who needs deodorant when you have "access" to manure?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)especially when I've pitched in and cleaned stalls. Then you can add in intense ammonia/urine smell permeating overall...
I would suspect ranching communities are similar to farming communities that way.
How are you doing? Are you home yet?
Kali
(55,007 posts)I have been out to the house a couple of times but am hanging in a hotel for a bit longer (see our replies to this thread for the reason why LOL - not great environment for the giant open hole in my leg, even if bandaged.)
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Bad germs!!
Take care and try to enjoy having complete control of the remote for a while longer...
Kali
(55,007 posts)hotel upgraded me to a "suite" so I have TWO freaking tee vees, but I don't watch them. can't take it, haven't had one in 15 years or more. the husband turned one on the other day and I just started getting all tense and weird feeling. didn't help he stopped clicking at some conspiracy thing draped as "science" ugh.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)but I do know that I need to use deodorant, even if I'm spending all day, every day, in AC.
The funk started at the very dawn of puberty, and has continued unabated ever since, even into menopause. Even though my armpits are devoid of hair (because it all fell out).
Can't be my diet. I don't eat lot of meat, and have not even touched beef in nearly 8 years.
And I don't sweat any more than anyone else I've ever known. In fact, a couple of weeks ago I was at a family function, and even though it wasn't overly hot, one of my sisters was sweating up a storm and I wasn't.
Just one of those unfortunate stinky people I guess
hunter
(38,311 posts)Some of them will make my underarms look and feel like I rubbed poison ivy on them.
(Type "deodorant allergy" into google image search to dredge up some really disgusting photos...)
The best my skin has ever felt was doing field work in places where water is scarce. After a week or two I'm a little smelly but my skin feels great!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)as the stink builds and builds, after 7-10 days it will die off and you won't smell at all!
reflection
(6,286 posts)I'll be the first to tell you that it doesn't work nearly as well, but I'm concerned the advent of aluminum in deodorants and soda cans is one of the things that helps to bring about Alzheimer's.
Disclaimer: I'm aware of the studies that say otherwise, and I'm aware that people who have views such as mine are largely considered kooks, but I'm also aware that industry doesn't mind looking the other way and/or financing rigged studies in order to maintain existing revenue streams. I'm not telling anyone not to use aluminum deodorants, just saying this is my personal choice. I don't drink sodas anymore, but when I did, I stopped drinking ones from aluminum cans a long time ago.
For anyone who thinks my thoughts have merit, I use Tom's of Maine and the Old Spice without aluminum. (don't recall the brand name, you'll have to check the label)
closeupready
(29,503 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)sammythecat
(3,568 posts)Maybe there's a reason to stop but I'm not aware of it.
I go to a local discount store and buy Arm&Hammer deodorant/anti-perspirant for $1.69. Maybe 3 or 4 a year, I never kept track. It's cheap, takes maybe 2 seconds a day, and I like what it does. Most everyone I know can identify me by sight alone, even at a distance, leaving my scent unneeded and pretty much unwanted by everyone. I'd want to have deodorant/a-p even if I was in solitary confinement. I don't like the feel of soggy pits.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)samsingh
(17,595 posts)stale sweat really reeks
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)They probably never used deodorant.
It's mostly Madison Avenue-induced paranoia.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)I always thought it was just 'old people smell,' but they probably just didn't really care enough about their personal hygiene. My other grandmother was more fastidious and she didn't smell like that. She just smelled like Kents.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)dont use deodorant.
yeesh.
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Better safe than sorry.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)the guy in India - I forget where exactly - who claimed (wife corroborating) that he had never once in his life taken a bath or bathed?
Silver Swan
(1,110 posts)But I have known many people who never use it. They do not stink.
When you come in contact with a person who stinks, it may because they are wearing dirty clothes, not because they smell badly themselves. If you shower daily and wear clean clothes, odors seldom become overpowering.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)you wouldn't even ask!
I'm about to go shower but the humidity this morning on my walk left me gross. I do fall into one of your categories: I sweat a lot. Even indoors in the middle of winter.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)Some people hardly ever break a sweat.
I envy them.
senseandsensibility
(17,026 posts)aluminum on my skin first, let it dry, then add a regular type over it. I tell myself it's better to have the "natural" one touching my skin, but who knows? I have to do this because I can not shower more than once a day. It's too drying for my skin. But even if I showered several times a day, I still think I'd need deodorant. One way I know it's working is if I sweat during the day I smell my deodorant. Without it, I would be smelling something else entirely.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)especially in winter. However, in warm weather you do tend to sweat and not be conscious of it as it evaporates from all over exposed skin to keep you cooler. At no time when you are stressed should you skip deodorant, and that goes for hot dates, too. Stress funk is pretty foul.
Armpit hair tends to keep the sweat concentrated in that area, and a dark, moist area is a prime spot for bacterial growth, another reason to use an antiperspirant in the pits. Bacterial growth can and will happen in warm, moist, dark places. Yum.
randome
(34,845 posts)No offense, raccoon!
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Paladin
(28,255 posts)It's not that hard or expensive to maintain basic personal hygiene. Failure to do so can alter a person's opinion of you, forever.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)nt
edbermac
(15,939 posts)"If you run out of deodorant go into the kitchen and put a bay leaf under each arm, won't help you stop perspiring but you'll smell like soup"
polichick
(37,152 posts)we don't slather our bodies with as many chemicals as possible?!
840high
(17,196 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Or can you smell the stench from far away?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)and fishing. I know for a fact he took a shower at the campground shower house, but the next morning I could smell him in my boat. I'm guessing he doesn't use deodorant.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You, yes.
Catherine Vincent
(34,489 posts)The cheapest would be this:
It really does work.
bluesbassman
(19,372 posts)In my case that necessitates the use of deodorant.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Need? No more than we need air conditioning, cars, internet connections or books. But, as with air conditioning, et. al., I will continue using this benign product to prevent unpleasant odors.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I buy aluminum free deodorant, such as Tom's of Maine.
Check the labels: almost every single deoorant an anti-perspirant contains aluminum.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...who is very holistically/homeopathically oriented. She has a sign outside her office door that says -
No Perfume
No Powder
No Deodorant
I am taking my chances with the aluminum.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)She's got Arab ancestry and uses a system of beautifully scented oils and scraping that I don't entirely understand, that she learned from her grandmother. She says its a process that's typically used where there isn't a lot of access to water. She believes its much healthier for the planet and our bodies.
She's also an intense cross country bike rider too who rides and trains daily.
Her skin and hair are magnificent. And she smells fantastic.
So it is possible and I can say there's no funk.
devils chaplain
(602 posts)Neoma
(10,039 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)It's the bacteria that make a living breaking it down. If you stay washed it keeps the bacteria in check. A person can also go a long way in not stinking by cleaning under your arms with a cotton ball and some alcohol. It kills the bacteria.
I have to switch deodorants because my chemistry seems to adjust to them and they become less effective. The worst scent comes from sweating through your deodorant. It is ghastly. Plain clean sweat is far preferable.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I need to use deodorant everyday.
MountainMama
(237 posts)I hate when I can smell myself, so I use powder and deodorant everyday.
And also speaking as someone with a MIL who doesn't always use it, YES, please! Bleah.
dilby
(2,273 posts)I ride my bike every day to work, my coworkers appreciate me not stinking like stale sweat during the day.