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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe synagogue in Paris was not attacked.
Contrary to the story that has caused such stir and impassioned condemnations of anti-Semitism, here is a French TV interview with Serge Benhaim, the president of the Rue de la Roquette synagogue in Paris. He confirms in certain terms that the synagogue was not attacked by pro-Palestinian protesters, and that what actually happened was a street fight nearby between a small group of the protesters and a small group of followers of the Jewish Defense League. Benhaim describes the JDL as being outside his congregation and having a "slightly sulfurous reputation," saying of the the incidents outside the synagogue: "On the use of weapons by the JDL, the president of the synagogue of the Rue de la Roquette also confirms that the JDL has 'broken chairs and tables to go and deliver this face-to-face' it 'not endorse'." (It meaning the synagogue, sorry for the Google translation.)
Benhaim leaves no doubt that there was no attack on the synagogue, as so many are repeating without basis, also on DU:
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The president of the synagogue of the Rue de la Roquette is very clear from the beginning, his goal was "to put things in their context and in their measure." And what follows is eloquent. "Not a single projectile on the synagogue." "At no time have we been in physical danger," he says. So where did this rumor come from? Serge Benhaïm think of a "confusion" between the events near a synagogue in Aulnay-sous-Bois , and those of the synagogue of the Rue de la Roquette.
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Have we seen another reflexive rush to judgement against Palestinians? Seems so.
French speakers, go to it.
http://www.itele.fr/france/video/incidents-rue-de-la-roquette-serge-benhaim-dement-toute-attaque-de-la-synagogue-88717
Translation
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.itele.fr%2Ffrance%2Fvideo%2Fincidents-rue-de-la-roquette-serge-benhaim-dement-toute-attaque-de-la-synagogue-88717&edit-text=
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)... spread by their supporters on DU in a lame attempt to defend the murder of several hundred children. Glad to see my hunch was confirmed.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)But the reporting has distorted things wildly by exaggerating, saying "pro-Palestinian protesters" are responsible in general, making them sound uniformly like exotic animals, creating this entirely false story about Paris, ignoring the JDL, turning normal numbers for emigration by French Jews into a "wave of emigration," etc. etc.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)as a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION in US and even in Israel!
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Hours after the Sunday night clashes between riot police and demonstrators angered at Israel's invasion of Gaza, ministers and opposition members of the French Parliament united to castigate what Prime Minister Manuel Valls said were "intolerable" acts that were clearly anti-Semitic.
"To attack a synagogue and a kosher grocery store is quite simply anti-Semitism and racism," Valls said during an official visit to the southeast of France on Monday.
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-france-rioters-synagogue-20140721-story.html
Unless you think the LA Times stands for "Likud Alliance", there was a synagogue attacked in a Paris suburb!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)One pro-Likud DUer even claimed it was ransacked, in an attempt to justify the slaughter of Palestinian civilians.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)The one attacked is located 74 ave Paul Valéry, Sarcelles a Parisian suburb. The one above is not the one in the main article in LBN.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Still the JDL is listed as a terrorist organization by many nations, so I take them with as much of a grain of salt as I do statements from Hamas.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)The OP is talking about ANOTHER fucking synagogue! There is more than one in Paris! Amazing, Jews get attacked for being Jews and people immediately try to blame the JEWS!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm just asking for clarification because I don't trust the JDL. I'm not passing judgment. I merely need more information.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)We are all friends here.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Some no doubt do that. There's no excuse for that. Just as there is no excuse for those who give false information about these incidents in the effort to demonize all Palestinians - or demonize all Arabs, or all Muslims, or all protesters against the ongoing Israeli massacres of civilians in the occupied territory of Gaza.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Roy Serohz
(236 posts)Calm down! The facts will out!
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)These false reports need to be corrected, as the president of the Rue de la Roquette synagogue so rightly recognized.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)and bringing up some totally different case from the ones we have been talking about to claim it didn't happen.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)So it's not "like" your irrelevant analogy. It actually happened: There was a false report. And this is an interview with the president of the synagogue that was falsely reported as attacked, clearing the record. Do you not want it corrected?
William769
(55,146 posts)This could be false also. Where is your corroborating evidence? I'm not ready to trust your link by a long shot.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)"My link."
That's right, it's MINE. I made up the French TV! I got an actor to play the synagogue president, inside a synagogue, in French! I invented Google translate!
William769
(55,146 posts)Sorry not buying it.
Have a nice day.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)But it is undeniable that there have been many attacks on Jewish owned shops, etc by radicalized North African Muslims.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)malaise
(268,976 posts)and over 750 people have been slaughtered by Israel.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)For example, the Hamas "terrorists" have a network of tunnels in which to infiltrate Israel.
Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel, even though some of them landed in the ocean. (If they had all these rockets, where would they train?)
It is only by the grace of God and the incompetence of the Palestinians that more Israelis have not been killed.
Hamas is hiding their weapons in schools and hospitals and that is why they are attacked.
We called a truce but Hamas broke it.
Do we question any of these as "not true"?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)no basis in fact.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)These are the guys being relied upon as witnesses for a lot of these stories. About as reliable as asking the KKK about black people.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Article thoroughly deconstructs the lies about the Roquette incident falsely styled into a "synagogue attack," but now it emerges that the Sarcelles incident also appears to have been mischaracterized.
The notion of the self-fulfilling media myth was confirmed on 20 July when, following widespread coverage of the Roquette Synagogue 'attack', a synagogue in the Paris suburb of Sarcelles surrounded by riot police was threatened by a gang of youths, who went on to vandalise a number of businesses, including Jewish ones.
The LDJ (JDL) was once more out in force in Sarcelles, but the distorters were again happy to concentrate on the 'pro-Palestine mob'. The fact that non-Jewish shops were also targeted barely got a mention. François Pupponi, the deputy-mayor of Sarcelles, referred to a crowd of mainly teenagers including schoolboys of black African origin as a 'horde of savages'. They did not carry Palestinian flags or banners, or show any sign of even knowing where Gaza is they were just another group of anti-social aliens who could be slotted into any narrative required, however racially divisive.
Banned pro-Palestine demonstrations have regularly degenerated into disorder in which fights with the police have broken out. This is a common trait of Paris street protests, whatever the cause. No matter that the perpetrators arrested tend to be students or anti-establishment agitators, the Roquette Synagogue deceit has had its desired effect.
It enabled Newsweek to once more display its abject ignorance for the facts of European history by comparing the Sarcelles disturbances to the murderous 'pogroms of Tsarist Russia'. The magazine refers to shouts of 'Death to Jews' a claim which is now routinely inserted into commentaries about pro-Palestinians, whether made by politicians, community leaders or anybody else with a venomous agenda.
Again, there is no evidence whatsoever...
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/13298-false-reports-on-roquette-synagogue-attack-should-be-rectified