Ellsberg and Snowden Rock the House at Hacker Meet Up in NYC

[freedom fighter jh]

Happened last weekend at the HOPE X conference in New York City. Ellsberg in person, Snowden tied in by video.

Michael Collins breaks it down: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ellsberg-and-Snowden-Rock-by-Michael-Collins-Daniel-Ellsberg_Federal-Agency-NSA_Hope-X_Internet-Cybercrimes-140719-770.html

[merrily]

1. Ellsberg has said that the USG, including the courts have changed since

he made his revelations. So, I would say, have Democrats.

In any event, I am grateful for the revelations about what my government does to me with my money, regardless of who made the revelations and why.

[freedom fighter jh]

3. I too am grateful. nt

[SamKnause]

2. K&R

Thanks for posting.

[freedom fighter jh]

4. Thank you for the K&R nt

[SamKnause]

5. You are welcome.

Have a safe and happy weekend.

[freedom fighter jh]

7. Thanks. You too. nt

[Autumn]

6. #5 and off to the greatest with you.

Ellsberg and Snowden.

[freedom fighter jh]

8. Thanks. For what they've done, Ellsberg and Snowden deserve the best.

In the past I have argued that the emphasis belongs on what Snowden uncovered, not on his personal merit.

But at least in what he's done for this country, I believe Snowden deserves praise. With apparently little regard for what happens to him, Snowden revealed what the American people need to know. For that he could end up stateless or in jail or even dead. I wish I were so brave.

[Autumn]

9. To me, what those men did was heroic. Snowden more so, due to the changes

in our government and that the whistle blower laws and our MSM are nothing more than disgusting jokes.

[autorank]

10. They're the best !!! n/t

[starroute]

11. A friend went to that conference so I read up on it a bit

It sounds like ot was a major event even aside from Ellsberg and Snowden's appearances.

The longtime hackers, the Anonymous types, the whistleblowers, the people who worry about surveillance, and the reporters who write about all of it are coming together and networking furiously.

The HOPE X conference strikes me as much more significant than the Netroots Nation convention a few weeks ago, which had the air of a bunch of slightly faded blogging superstars trying to remain relevant by leaning on the Democratic Party. I'm no doubt overstating slightly -- but it certainly had none of the freshness and excitement that I'm picking up in accounts of HOPE X.

[grasswire]

12. excellent quotes!

[freedom fighter jh]

16. Yes, the first one is my favorite.

"The idea of prosecuting someone for revealing evidence of a crime has an odd ring to it. Revealing evidence of a crime is, in fact, criminal." Daniel Ellsberg

[rhett o rick]

13. k&r thanks for posting. nm

[bvar22]

14. K&R X 1000

Everyone should read the linked article.

[TBF]

15. Good job Michael Collins :) and K&R to the OP

for posting it.

[freedom fighter jh]

17. Thanks! nt