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These links are from earlier in the year, but they seem relevant, considering the outrage de jour...
Bigfoot Erotica Not Just A HoaXXX (NSFW)
You know what they say about guys with big feet.
Sasquatch-themed erotica has been around awhile, but the hilariously hairy phenomenon has lumbered its way into the mainstream.
Last month, Business Insider spoke with Virginia Wade, an author whose specialty is smut starring the creature even more elusive than the G-spot.
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Oh yeah, did we mention Wade claims to be making between $6,000 and $30,000 a month?
(more at link) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/bigfoot-erotica_n_4603707.html
No, it is NOT a joke --
MONSTER PORN: Amazon Cracks Down On Americas Latest Sex Fantasy
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"Cum For Bigfoot" wasn't an overnight best-seller. "The first month, I think I made $5," Wade admits. But over the course of 2012, the book was downloaded well over 100,000 times. "And that was just Amazon," she says. "That's not counting iTunes or Barnes & Noble or any of the other places that sell self-published books." With no marketing muscle, no bookstore tours or print reviews or any of the publicity that most top authors use to sell books, she started bringing in staggering profits. During her best months, she says, she netted $30,000 or more. At worst, she'd bank around six grand "nothing to complain about," she says.
She branched into other genres, penning ebooks like "Taken By Pirates" and "Seduced By The Dark Lord," but her "Cum For Bigfoot" series was the biggest money-maker. "I started cranking them out," she says. "If there was a market there for monster sex, I was gonna give it to them." She even brought in her family to help with the workload. "My dad, who's an English instructor, was my editor," Wade says. "My mom did the German translations" including the equally popular "Komm für Bigfoot." "I even had my own 401k. It became a cottage industry."
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Wade is hardly the only author who has made a mint writing about monsters and the women who love them (or at least submit to their sexual appetites). She's part of a burgeoning literary genre that's found a wide audience online: monster porn, otherwise known as cryptozoological erotica, or as some of the authors prefer to call it, "erotic horror." Their self-published books feature mythical creatures of every possible variety, from minotaurs to mermen, cthulhus to leprechauns, extraterrestrials to cyclops, who become involved in sexual trysts, often non-consensual, with human lovers. They have titles that are often more silly than sexy from "Demons Love Ass," part of Trisha Danes' "Beasts & Booty" collection, to "Frankenstein's Bitch" and "Sex With My Husband's Anatomically Correct Robot" and the plots are never less than imaginative. A feline shapeshifter might be saved from a tree by a firefighter with a cat fetish (as in the ebook "Out on a Limb" , or a buxom cattle rancher might be abducted and kept enslaved "in a strange, perverted alien zoo" ("Milked by the Aliens" .
It's easy to snicker, but somebody is buying these things. Authors of monster porn may not be notching sales to rival E.L. James or Amanda Hocking, the trailblazers of self-published erotica, but they're making more than enough to survive. Thats especially remarkable given the low price tag on many of their books. "Amazon pays a royalty of 35 percent for books listed below $2.99," says K.J. Burkhardt (a pen name), the 45-year-old author of "Taken by the Tentacle Monsters" and "Bred to the Creature." "For those listed at $2.99 and over, I can claim 70 percent in royalty payments. But I didn't feel comfortable nor right in asking someone to pay $2.99 for a five-to seven-thousand-word short story." So instead, the majority of her titles are listed at 99 cents, the minimum allowed by Amazon. "Even with the small prices that I was asking," she says, "it doesn't take much imagination to guess that I was selling a lot of books to earn $4,000 each month."
(more at link) http://www.businessinsider.com/monster-porn-amazon-crackdown-sex-fantasy-bigfoot-2013-12
Okay, some people love Big Foot/Wookie erotica, some are into vampires and shape shifters, some like time traveling romances, some like modern day stuff, while others like edgy erotic fantasy as part of their entertainment.
Who cares?
Honestly, I do not care what other people read or what movies they play in their head when they do so. I am not going to argue with anyone about whether "trashy romance/erotic novels" are good or bad, because honestly, I sometimes enjoy reading a nice trash romance novel and I really like the current trend of combining my love of science fiction/fantasy with a good happy-ever-after romance. (Disclaimer: Yeah, I could totally get into an Orlando Bloom like Legolas character falling for the charms of a geeky computer nerd mom with bad housekeeping habits and an amazing chocolate tiramisu recipe - woo hoo, baby! Have that "man" bring me a nice cup of wine, throw in a chocolate taste testing scene, have him do the dishes and get sweaty with some manual labor - yowza! Turn the page, and start wiggling the eyebrows at my loving hubby!)
There are certain things I am not "into", but that is okay; I don't like a lot of movie genres (like shoot-'em-up movies - yuck!) and the world doesn't end. To tell the truth, Princess Leia in a gold bikini has never done for me what it does for my husband, and that is okay - I am a Han Solo fan, if you know what I mean!
Know what I do like? People reading. It makes me happy.
I am not going to comment on the literary quality of the 50 Shades books except to say I could not slog my way through the first one without getting totally annoyed at the stupid characters, and didn't bother with the other two. Never really been into the whole BDSM stuff, but read this amazing book by Jacqueline Carey called "Kushiel's Dart" that blew my mind on the topic, so I won't get all judge-y about it, either. (Yes, I read several of the rest of the series, too - WOW!)
So, here are my suggestions on how I think people should handle the topic:
Fans of the Series: Go read Kushiel's Dart - it is AWESOME!
Non-Fans of the Series: Go read Something Else in protest!
Folks Who Don't Care: Go read something you like!
Enjoy!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)It is probably why I like tribal tattoos even though I'll never get one.
Seriously though, if I can make that kind of scratch from writing something like that, I'd do it for kicks and giggles.
It is legal right?
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And apparently pretty darn profitable!
Good luck in your future career endeavors! Oh, and remember us "little people" when you start raking in the dough!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I'm going to start with Jacqueline and the Hairy Tree Giant.
Do a whole Tarzan like set up, and see where it takes me.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)I will be your first paying customer! I *love* Tarzan - as a matter of fact, I was just reading it to my children this weekend! (I was having to edit for the racism stuff, but....)
I am so proud - I feel like I've inspired someone!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Thank you...
I just hope that I can actually finish it.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And the prices is "free" for the information.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Preferrably one that is androgynous.
Like E.V. Edwards or something like that.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Aren't you supposed to pick the name of the street you grew up on, and the name of your favorite pet and then mix it up somehow?
Or something like that. Maybe you should write the story first, and see what name grows out of it. If you write it in first person, you might want to pick a name that is appropriate.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Thanks for all your advice.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)3500 - 7000 words is the sweet spot. They sell great. You could do one in one sitting probably. I did for a joke the other night and we are thinking about just putting it up on Amazon for fun.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Share, please!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Woman in control, I think I may call it Red Vines. I like candy. She works at an arts and craft store but gets minimum wage and needs to work as a dancer on the weekends. Meets a girl, meets a guy. 6500 words of pure sex. I have problems writing the romance into it so i declined to even bother.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Arts-and-crafts (good girl) mixed with dancer (bad girl) with candy mixed in --
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I thought it was funny. I read it out loud to my hubby and i think it does the job just fine.
No complaints.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Sounds awesome.
Does "sounds" count as words?
I saw this explicit book that someone left at a hotel room that had whole pages that was just:
mmmmaaaahwrrrwwaaaallllwaaaarrrrr...
Combinations of that.
Sounds count as words for sure. I've seen 12 page books and 300 page books. 30-40 seems to be perfect for the genre. Even the words mmmmm count.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I keep writing stuff out and reading it out loud. Somebody gave me the idea of writing a yeti/Yoda/female Jedi one. Thinking seriously about it. Very seriously.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Gotta get creative. Maybe Yoda has an innie that goes outtie? Idk.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Lucas apparently couldn't be bothered with that one.
clarice
(5,504 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)Really? I did not know that!!!
I love DU. I learn things here.
clarice
(5,504 posts)Bigger the nose...the bigger the ----.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hoses for a thousand Alex!!
clarice
(5,504 posts)Feeling great and my allergies have cleared up for the summer. Hope you're well? You seem like it, in such a good mood.
clarice
(5,504 posts)Here in Texas....the pollen is unbelievable. Half the State is sniffling.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Just a little bit bigger than Texas.(we like to brag just as much). The place is full of cotton wood in the air all June and part of July. I turn into a benedrly zombie every year.
clarice
(5,504 posts)would be sinus problems in Alaska !
re: Alaska bigger than Texas.
Our favorite response is "Not when it melts" lol
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Using it. That's a good one. Yeah, we have so much flora. It's a sinus hell zone.
clarice
(5,504 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"Let the wookie win"