Video of shooting scene: warning graphic and disturbing.

[mfcorey1]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/08/16/nd-ferguson-cell-phone-video-mike-brown-body-on-ground.cnn.html

[wandy]

1. This may be the uncut video............

#t=2

If it is not the same video then a question.
If one video is almost imposable, having two?

[BronxBoy]

4. Thank you for posting this....

"They killed that boy for no god dam reason"

They should have showed this version

[malaise]

6. Why wasn't his body covered

Those cops are animals

[Michigander_Life]

21. Covering bodies isn't proper.

It is a TV practice sometimes practiced in reality but largely condemned by modern medical examiners. Forensic evidence is compromised when a sheet is draped over a body. The body should be moved into a sterile bag after the scene is photographed and documented, then transported for an autopsy.

[HangOnKids]

28. You an ME?

Waiting.

[Michigander_Life]

33. No I am not an ME.

[HangOnKids]

34. Good then your post is an OPINION

Not fact. Thanks for clarifying.

[Michigander_Life]

38. No, it's a fact.

[HangOnKids]

48. Sorry it is your opinion

You are not an expert source. Goggling something then posting a blog opinion does not make your information a fact. I saw the blog you lifted your opinion from.

[Michigander_Life]

50. Goggles and blogs? Are you in the right place?

I'm not a scientist but I say evolution is real. Does that make it an opinion or a fact?

It is common sense that introducing an object (such as a sheet from a nearby residence or the back of a squad car) will contaminate a scene. The body must be preserved in as pristine and sterile a condition as possible. How can you argue against this?

[CherokeeDem]

51. I'm a Microbiologist

who once worked for a forensic pathologist.... covering the body will contaminate the crime scene. The procedure you rejected as opinion was fact. What they should have done was cordon off an area, bring vehicles closer and/or hang a sheet or something to block the body from view. That would have been the human thing to do. What they did, leaving the body in the open, and not calling an ambulance, if indeed they didn't is despicable.

[lebkuchen]

57. Ferguson has armored vehicles but no ambulance within hours of the scene?

misplaced priorities, not to mention, Ferguson police have done everything possible to shove their arrogance in citizens' faces.

[CherokeeDem]

58. Makes you wonder...

First thing they should have done was call for an ambulance, whether they assumed he was dead or not. Even if they didn't think it would do any good, they were surrounded by citizens and should have made it appear they were concerned. Again, the human thing to do. To leave his body on display without the courtesy of screening it from the public is disrespect at its worst.

[exboyfil]

29. They did cover the body before the forensics

team got to it. I thought that was a mistake. I have to wonder why portable screens are not available in larger police departments for such eventualities. In the Harry Bosch book series Harry decides to remove an entire car with a dead body from the scene because it was visible from the Hollywood Bowl and a concert was about to begin (Trunk Music).

It is a hard call. The body and the surrounding scene is the best evidence of what happened. On the other hand it looks disrespectful and can incite a crowd.

[JJChambers]

32. No one should have to see a dead friend or family member laying in the street.

But preserving evidence, evidence which could make the difference between justice and injustice, is more important. Screens would definitely be better than sheets.

[BronxBoy]

14. Same video

It was sanitized for the teevee

[BronxBoy]

26. Wow....

"You can't even be Black and walk around this fucking neighborhood no more"

Sounds like Ferguson's finest had some community policing issues

[pintobean]

61. There is an eye witness account in the background

conversation. It starts at about the 6:05 mark and lasts for over a minute.

[wandy]

62. I quite intentionally did not mention this. Explanation.........

It's not that I consider it RW spin although that is about how I would sum it up.
I have been into audio editing my entire adult life and AV editing for about 8 years.
Mostly hobby, sometimes 'other duties as assigned'.
Something happens at around the five minute mark that cause the gut reaction...

"Expletive" I screwed up that splice".

I haven't taken a detailed 'look' at the audio before or after the oddity however I suspect it will be more challenging than Santoram's Blaaaaaa people but not as challenging as the "is it really Bin Laden" adventures in audio.

[jwirr]

2. Gross disrespect for life.

[BronxBoy]

3. I wish...

All those "we don't know what happened yet" mofos would watch this and comment

[NutmegYankee]

5. What's really telling is the fact that police didn't cover his body.

They just left him lying there uncovered for hours. Like a dog. It's really telling about how the Ferguson police view blacks.

[alsame]

7. They treated him like road kill.

[NutmegYankee]

8. Exactly.

I've been near fatal car crashes where the first thing police did after determining the occupants were deceased was string a blanket up to block the view of onlookers.

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. They shut down all of the southbound lanes of I-65

In May because of a fatal motorcycle accident. (for almost 7 hours) The bike and body were up on the embankment.

[HipChick]

24. Roadkill would have prob been treated better...

[BronxBoy]

9. And that there.....

Seems to be an entire apartment complex of witnesses who probably have not been interviewed yet...

I really wish all the mfs who are mitigated police actions would watch this and tell us why we shouldn't have an incident report yet

[NutmegYankee]

10. To have an incident report...

Police would actually have to interview people. They seem to have no desire...

[BronxBoy]

13. Obviously not...

It angers me to no end to see posters come here and lecture the Black community when we have justified rage about this shit. Some asdhole even brought up the Duke rape case

A case where the system worked....on behalf of the White defendants.

[NutmegYankee]

16. I fully understand the rage in this case.

And I believe it is justified and should continue to be displayed until the police officer is in jail. However, I wouldn't say the Duke case was an example where the system worked. Those young men and the team suffered a lot of damage because of an out of control prosecutor. To say the system worked there is like saying it worked because a man got released from prison years later on appeal for a crime he didn't commit.

[BronxBoy]

18. Well my friend....

I didn't make that comparison, someone else did. But as a Black man, given everything that those young men went through, I still have to say the system "worked" for them

If they were Black and the accuser was White, I'd take any bet that they would have done DECADES in prison

And the all too regular stories if Black men being released from the penitentiary after being falsely accused would no doubt bear me out

[NutmegYankee]

20. Understood.

Your scenario is almost exactly what happened in the Central Park jogger case. Five innocent men sent to prison for a crime they didn't commit.

[BronxBoy]

23. Thank you...,

And I hope I didn't seem to bite your head off. I just get really peeved when people interject that case into situations like this

Hell, there are better exams if White guys being the victims of prosecutorial misconduct

[NutmegYankee]

30. My head's still attached. ;)

I do note that while there are better examples, it's obvious there are far fewer of them for whites than for blacks. One would have to be both deaf and blind to miss that little aspect of our justice system.

[dixiegrrrrl]

60. Several news reports = neighborhood witnesses refused to talk to police

They did not trust Ferguson Police with any info, said they were willing to talk to FBI, tho.

can't say I blame them...it would be like handing the cops a road map to re-write the story more than they have already.

[exboyfil]

31. At the end of the video a police officer is putting a sheet

over him. Again a bad move when it comes to the forensics. Police departments need portable screens.

[840high]

42. see post #21

[TeeYiYi]

11. The cops refused to allow CPR...

Devin Stone, 28, a friend of Mr. Brown’s, was home in his apartment at the time, across the street from the place where the men were confronted by the police.

Sitting outside his building, Mr. Stone said he was jolted by the sound of two gunshots, followed by several more in rapid succession. The second series of shots “sounded automatic,” he said. “They let it rip.”

Mr. Stone ran outside and saw two police officers, both white men, standing near Mr. Brown, who was lying on his stomach, his arms at his sides, blood seeping from his head. Another neighbor, a woman who identified herself as a nurse, was begging the officers to let her perform CPR.

They refused, Mr. Stone said, adding, “They didn’t even check to see if he was breathing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/ferguson-mo-michael-brown-and-darren-wilson-2-paths-to-a-fatal-encounter.html

Who was the other cop? Has he been identified? It sounds to me like both cops may have fired shots...

TYY

[BronxBoy]

39. Lots of interesting things in the video

Seems like a lot of folks heard some initial shots followed by a pause followed by a final volley

Sounds l suspisicios to me. But I guess we should go back and analyze the convenience store tape

[TeeYiYi]

43. Multiple people...

...can be heard on the raw video saying that the cops stood over his body and kept firing. I don't know if they mean one cop or two but they definitely said that the cop(s) stood over the body and fired after he was already down and more than likely already dead.

Sitting outside his building, Mr. Stone said he was jolted by the sound of two gunshots, followed by several more in rapid succession. The second series of shots “sounded automatic,” he said. “They let it rip.”

TYY

[BronxBoy]

45. Yep....

We are officially down the Black rabbit

The ferguson PD refuses to listen to a whole community

[passiveporcupine]

63. listen to it again

Multiple people can be heard on the raw video saying that the cops stood over his body and kept firing.

Since there was no one on the street when it started except the two boys, and a later witness came around the corner and saw it from a distance, they were the only eye witnesses of what happened. What you hear on the video is all these statements, followed by "that's what they said". It's all hearsay. All of it, except direct accounts from the two witnesses who actually witnessed it (maybe three, as I think a girl in an apartment witnessed the end of it).

So while this sounds bad, we need to stop reading things into the videos of this event that all were filmed "after" it was all over. No one got a shot of what actually happened. This is why police vehicles need cam and audio, and why police should also all be wearing chest cams. We need to stop this he said she said shit.

[TeeYiYi]

65. When hearsay is all you've got...

...then that's what you work with.

There wasn't an opportunity, time wise, for the local neighborhood citizenry to call a meeting and refine their 'story.' Clearly, there were multiple 'ear'witnesses to Michael Brown's murder.

I believe that 'someone' visually witnessed the murder. Hopefully, that person will find a way to come forward without risking the safety of self and family.

Like you, I look forward to the day when police officers are required to wear a chest cam and keep the video uploading in real time. Until then...

TYY

[AtomicKitten]

12. Nobody took his vital signs.

They just him bleed to death on the street.

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[NutmegYankee]

17. That's very common in police shootings.

It is rare to see any lifesaving efforts given.

[HipChick]

25. He was left to bleed out in the street

to agitate the crowd...

[Captain Stern]

44. Unfortunately sometimes injuries are so severe that it's obvious there's no need to take vital signs

The person narrating the video says the shooting victim's brains are in the street.

[MFM008]

19. I think of this happening to my own son

and cant look anymore.

[Quayblue]

22. you know what strikes me..

It appears this officer was going to troll this complex. It looks like the parking lot is a dead end of sorts. I've seen this type of behavior in similarly situated apartments.

sigh.....

[BronxBoy]

27. And I would love to know where this started..

When I kept hearing "jaywalking" I was thinking a major public thoroughfare not a interior road in a complex.

[Quayblue]

37. ive got to look at this too

Intentional urban planning comes to mind. Years ago, I lived on the same block Malice Green was killed on. The north end of the street was a dead end, basically compromised by I-94. If one was getting followed, there was nowhere to go. In FACT, one night I'd just gotten off the bus from a late organic chem class and was slow-rolled by some cops thinking i was looking to buy some crack. I said, "Officer... I just got out of class."

one yelled at me "College kids smoke crack too!!"

his partner said, "Man you trying too hard."

i was about pissing myself, 2 houses from home.

sheesh. What a bad memory.

[BronxBoy]

35. Thank you for posting!!!

The lies are piling up! Didn't the Ferguson PD say that they were delayed in doing a proper crime scene investigation because the crowds wouldn't let them?

Seems like they got it locked down to me

[BronxBoy]

36. From watching this video...,

Seems like there was an awful lot of eyewitnesses.... Makes you wonder why there is no report yet

[Strelnikov_]

49. My impression also

Just listening to the background conversations, it's pretty clear who is lying here.

You don't hear multiple random people telling the same narrative this soon after the event, unless that narrative is what really happened.

[BronxBoy]

40. K&R

[BronxBoy]

41. "Wha he do?"

"Do you see a gun? Do you see a knife? Do you see anything that was a threat to these motherfuckers? They killed that boy cuz they wanted to!"

[MrMickeysMom]

46. The cops didn't know what to do….

What to do…….. human being down...

What to do…..

WHAT is it that they are supposed TO DO?

You can believe they are being advised what to do with great care, now.

[BronxBoy]

47. They look like they know some..

Bad shit went down

[ALBliberal]

52. Crime scene tape up before an EMT arrives? omg nt

[BronxBoy]

53. Bump for the morning crowd n/t

[BronxBoy]

54. Some potentially explosive things in that uncut video

Pause between volleys of shots??

Stood over him and shot him????

No wonder why people are so fucking angry?

[butterfly77]

55. Fuckers!!!

I am even more angry now that I have seen the video,and these Fox mfkers have the audacity to tell the black community when and what to be outraged about..

[BronxBoy]

56. For real.....

Now we know why the released the store video, they are trying to get ahead of some damning stuff

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. The criminal thugs that overran Haiti left corpses to rot in the street too,...as a warning.

[ReRe]

64. CNN Video of Michael in street!

I did NOT see that before now. Thank you for posting it!