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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:47 PM Aug 2014

We don't need to wait for any more facts to know that gunning down unarmed black men is wrong

People are trying to tell us we need to “wait for the facts”.

Well I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that it is wrong to shoot an unarmed man six times in the street.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that it is wrong to leave that unarmed man’s body lying in the street for four hours without even bothering to call an ambulance.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that it is wrong for the police to shoot peaceful protesters speaking out against the murder with tear gas and rubber bullets.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that it is wrong to arrest journalists who were trying to report on the murder.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that when the prosecutor comes out and defends the police who were arresting journalists and attacking protesters that prosecutor is not a neutral source that can be trusted to conduct a fair investigation.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that when the police refuse to release even the most basic information about the shooting yet will leak information that reflects Michael Brown in a negative light they are not conducting themselves in a trustworthy manner.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that we have a long history of racism in this country.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that many of the people defending the Ferguson Police Department are obvious racists.

I don’t need to wait for any more facts to know that I am sick and tired of people insisting that gunning down unarmed black men in the streets is in any way justifiable.

Yes, I realize that there are many facts that we don’t know and I want to learn those facts, but I am not about to pretend that we don’t know enough to be able to tell right from wrong. No matter what additional facts come out it will not justify shooting an unarmed person six times.

You won’t see the “wait for the facts” crowd in any thread about James Holmes or Dzokhar Tsarnaev telling us to wait for the facts on them despite the fact that they have yet to go to trial either, the “wait for the facts” crowd is very selective on which crimes they apply their logic to.

You certainly won’t see them telling us to wait for the facts in the next “self-defense” shooting either, many of them are among the same group of people who post celebratory threads in the gungeon whenever there is a news article about a person using a gun to defend themselves. The shooting victim in these cases did not face trial, but they are so certain of their guilt that they cheer their death based on a few words in a newspaper article.

Let us be clear: Darren Wilson has a right to a fair trial but he does not have the right to be free of criticism for his actions. The evidence is clear that he is a murderer and I am not going to feel any shame in calling him a murderer, nor am I going to feel any shame in stating plainly that I do not trust the police department and am not going to automatically accept the so-called “facts” that they are telling me to wait for.

The “wait for the facts” crowd wants to insist we wait patiently while journalists are being arrested when they try to get the facts to us. They want us to wait while the police incident report is being kept secret but the police are leaking details to smear Michael Brown. They want us to wait while the people who are speaking out are being shot with tear gas and rubber bullets.

Well I for one have waited long enough, I want to see justice and I want to see it now.

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We don't need to wait for any more facts to know that gunning down unarmed black men is wrong (Original Post) Bjorn Against Aug 2014 OP
We waited for the facts with Trayvon and Jordan Davis, their killers both got off BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #1
Welcome to DU Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #2
 

BaggersRDumb

(186 posts)
1. We waited for the facts with Trayvon and Jordan Davis, their killers both got off
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:52 PM
Aug 2014

Even though Davis's killer went to prison, it wasnt for killing that kid.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
2. Welcome to DU
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:21 PM
Aug 2014

I mostly agree with you, my only exception is that we did not wait for the facts on Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis, we waited for the spin. The facts were quite clear from early on in both of those cases, but we got lots of spin from the murder defenders as the cases moved forward.

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