Period. End of file.

[WilliamPitt]

[Hugabear]

1. Let me be among the first to gladly K&R this

Your graphic sums it up very precisely

[marshall gaines]

16. K&R

What does K&R mean?

[stufl]

23. Kick and Recommend

I asked the same question when I first came here.
"Recommend" I get. Those posts that have more than 5 recommendations, live a bit longer.
"kick"...not as clear

[one_voice]

31. Kick...

pushes the thread back to the top.

[marshall gaines]

48. thank you

thank you very much

[Glaisne]

41. Had the same question too when I was new here!

I thought it meant Keith and Rachel!

[marshall gaines]

47. cool

cool. thanks.

[babylonsister]

2. Except that plenty of libs protested healthcare b/c they

didn't get exactly what they wanted. They still do. Right in this very place.

[PA Democrat]

5. In all fairness, there is plenty about that bill to protest.

I prefer the very flawed bill to nothing at all, but I will continue to protest the most objectionable parts of the bill.

I'm glad some people have been helped by the bill, me personally, I've seen my rates go up by more than 30% since the bill passed and still have to fight with the profiteering crooks for every bit of actual health care I can wring out of them.

[truedelphi]

19. I don't know of anyone in my age range who has voted Democratic all their life who

Is impressed by this bill. It does not allow people between the ages of 49 and 62 to have health care coverage. Unless, of course, they are lucky enough to work for a large corporation that pays their health insurance, or they are wealthy.

Not only that - it keeps millions of us in the above age range to be the very last people on earth any legit employer would hire. Why hire a sixty year old that will cost you three times what a thirty year old would cost you?

[PA Democrat]

22. I hear you and agree.

[snappyturtle]

44. I'm 64, single, female, self emploiyed=unaffordable health insurance premiums

I so agree with your assessment. I paid into the 'system' for decades until I was finally priced out. I have been trying to find a little job for some time now. I am over qualified and too old so I'm back to self-employed, which I was for over thirty years, and I like it better that way. I never have gripes with the boss!!

[Scuba]

35. +1

[WilliamPitt]

9. Except the sign doesn't say 'Obama's health care'

Does it?

[EFerrari]

10. You are conflatng health insurance with health care.

Nobody is protesting health care.

[larkrake]

37. The Repugs are against HEALTHCARE

through their attack on womens rights, childcare and pensions, and veterans healthcare, medicare, medicaid, and other "cares" I am not talking health insurance. The logo is absolutely correct.

The healthcare bill is for control of health insurance. Though it does help, controlling insurance pricing was necessary to be successful. Obama could not get that through, but did state he would have that in a tweak. If he gets a majority in the Congressional house and Senate, he can tweak it any way he wants, without blockages. So get to work getting dems voting IDs, bus them to voting sites and get both houses.

[EFerrari]

49. This bill has inadequate controls for costs and I don't take orders from strangers, thanks. n/t

[A Simple Game]

38. I have seen no one protest health care. Several of us have protested

a health insurance bill that does far too little for most. At 61 the only thing I have gotten out of the bill is a 20% increase in my premium which forced me to change to a high deductible policy. I am now thinking of dropping my health insurance altogether. With a high deductible, unless I or my wife have a medical catastrophe, everything is out of pocket anyway.

[ScreamingMeemie]

42. That's not quite right. I lost what I had. And I will continue to protest both the war

and the reform act (I won't call it "healthcare" for short any more)

My son is no longer eligible for his own policy. Insurance Co.'s jumped through that loophole and refuse to cover any children on their own policies. We have a right to question that and not be thrilled.

[redqueen]

3. K&R!

[Fumesucker]

4. There seem to be more than a few "liberals" who are fine with war..

As long as the POTUS has a "D" by their name.

[jenmito]

8. OR it could be that we're fine knowing Obama ENDED the Iraq War and is ending the Afghanistan War,

neither of which he started.

[splintersawry]

51. I thank the Iraqi government for ending the war. The president wanted to extend it. Iraqi's: "NO"

[WilliamPitt]

7. Someone needs a time out

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

11. I think a PPR is a suitable time-out.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: agree with alert on all points
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: troll
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Nice post, Cheney!
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: This is on the borderline between a reasonable opinion expressed a bit extremely vs. disruptive, etc. I think "President Dreamboat" and "HYPOCRITES" push it a little over the line for me.

[WilliamPitt]

12. Looks like that time-out is permanent

[bluedigger]

15. She sleeps with the fishes.

[jtuck004]

13. K. And R. n/t

[peace frog]

14. Any questions?

Clear as day.

[marshall gaines]

17. nice

truth

[Fresh_Start]

18. K&R seems like there could be an entire suite of these

Liberals Protest War.
Conservatives protest against science and education.

[malaise]

20. Freaking perfect

Rec

[secondwind]

21. K&R for sure!

[HughBeaumont]

24. . . . which leads to . . .

[robinlynne]

25. great one!

[spanone]

26. perfect!!!

k&r...

[KoKo]

27. Will Pitt... A Travel Back in Time....to "Those Days." Do You Remember?

(Those were the days, my friend. We thought they would never end.. for Peace, Truth and Enlightenment)

None of us are the same.... Time marches on....we change...





http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/08-12-05/discussion.cgi.63.html


TRUTHOUT
Cindy Sheehan | Address to Veterans For Peace Convention
Wed Aug 10, 2005 18:47
64.140.159.151


t r u t h o u t | 08.10

Cindy Sheehan | Address to Veterans For Peace Convention
http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
But do you think George Bush will interrupt his vacation and go visit the families of those 20 marines who have died in Ohio this week, asks Cindy Sheehan? Sheehan says the answer is No ... he doesn't care, he doesn't have a heart. That's not enough to stop his little "playing cowboy" game in Crawford for 5 weeks.


Norman Solomon | Rage Against the Killing of the Light
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005B.shtml
Norman Solomon says that what's going on this week, outside the perimeter of the ranch-style White House in Crawford, is some reclamation of reality in public life. Cindy Sheehan has disrupted the media-scripted shadow play of falsity. And some other relatives of the ultimately sacrificed have been en route to the vigil in the dry hot Texas ditches now being subjected to enormous media attention a few miles from the vacationing president's accommodations.





Venezuela Warns Against US Invasion
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005D.shtml
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said the US government, which "won't stop caressing the idea of invading Cuba or invading Venezuela," should be warned of the consequences.




Peter W. Galbraith | Iraq: Bush's Islamic Republic
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005F.shtml
There is, in fact, no Iraqi insurgency. There is a Sunni Arab insurgency. And it cannot win. Neither the al-Qaeda terrorists nor the former Baathists can win.






William Rivers Pitt | Bush Is No Nixon
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005I.shtml
No mother who lost her son to this Iraq war should be made to stand in a ditch, writes TO contributor William Rivers Pitt. And yet that is exactly where Cindy Sheehan stands today, by the side of the road in Crawford, Texas.


9/11 Panel: 'Did Pentagon Withhold Hijacker Files?'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005J.shtml
"I think this is a big deal," said John F. Lehman, a Republican member of the commission. "The issue is whether there was in fact surveillance before 9/11 of Atta and, if so, why weren't we told about it? Who made the decision not to brief the commission's staff or the commissioners?"


Shiite Rebels Oust Baghdad Mayor
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005K.shtml
"This is the new Iraq," said Mr. Tamimi, the deposed mayor. "They use force to achieve their goal."







An Anti-War Film That Refuses to Be Banned
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005N.shtml
Like a live hand grenade brought home from a distant battlefield, the 34-year-old antiwar documentary "Winter Soldier" has been handled for decades as if it could explode at any moment.


Maureen Dowd | Why No Tea and Sympathy?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005O.shtml
W. can't get no satisfaction on Iraq, writes New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd. There's an angry mother of a dead soldier camping outside his Crawford ranch, demanding to see a president who prefers his sympathy to be carefully choreographed.


NOW | Filmmaker Alex Gibney: Could Enron Happen Again?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081005P.shtml
When The New York Times reviewed filmmaker Alex Gibney's latest documentary Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room, it called the film: "a fascinating chronicle of arrogance and greed."

[zipplewrath]

28. And Yet

We support and re-elect presidents that support and extend acts of war.


We used to not do that (see LBJ).

This is the "third way" I guess.

[KoKo]

30. Yes...the Third Way.....it's the Consensus...The Commons...

Who gives a shit, anymore. Most of us are just trying to survive the best way we can. We let them do it...because they all got away with it. Who are we to complain? We are nobodies. At least now we know the the TRUTH OF IT.... TRUTH OUT..!

[TBF]

29. That should be a campaign poster. nt

[KoKo]

32. Really?

It's a bit of a ....well can't think of the phrase.

[Zax2me]

33. Actually, liberals protested health care. Helped Obama get elected.

But the Supremes are going to spoil that.

[Sherman A1]

34. Precisely

[cliffordu]

36. NICE!!! K&R

[stevenleser]

39. K&R&S&PTFB

Kicked and Recced and Stolen and Posted To FaceBook!

[WilliamPitt]

40. You just sounded like Bill the Cat.

KRSPTFB!!!

Ack!

[Glaisne]

43. Vote....

VOTE Meadow Party 2012!!!!

Ack! Ack!

[stevenleser]

46. Ack thwpt!

[Hepburn]

45. KnR...n/t

[SunSeeker]

50. Brilliant! nt