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Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:49 PM Apr 2012

I hate to say this, Fellas and I hope I'm wrong BUT I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning

himself in peacefully and quickly. IF he's still in the country, if he has his druthers, He won't be much longer. I think he's too much of a narcissist to save the country some money and walk to the Pearly Gates. I just don't think he's going to do the right thing, period. He hasn't up to this point and there's no indication that anything's going to change.

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I hate to say this, Fellas and I hope I'm wrong BUT I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning (Original Post) Ecumenist Apr 2012 OP
his location is known, i'm pretty darn sure of that. Whisp Apr 2012 #1
I think you put the comma in the wrong spot in the title of your OP snooper2 Apr 2012 #2
Nope, I don't think so, I placed the comma where I wanted it to me to emphasise my first thought. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #5
No, I don't think the rules of grammar allow for that.. snooper2 Apr 2012 #7
Nope, you don't place a comma before a word like "and", "or" or "but". Ecumenist Apr 2012 #11
We are always learning aren't we? snooper2 Apr 2012 #12
No problem. Onecan always learn and should learn. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #17
no commas before "and" or "or," but always before "but" magical thyme Apr 2012 #15
When to Use a Comma before "And" snooper2 Apr 2012 #16
never say never magical thyme Apr 2012 #19
Yes, the so-called Oxford comma, with an exception being something like DevonRex Apr 2012 #23
A comma is placed before the word "and" if it is a complete sentence. RebelOne Apr 2012 #22
um.. that's the "Oxford" comma and it does matter. nebenaube Apr 2012 #28
Um REALLY?? The post was about something IMPORTANT NOT about the ins and outs Ecumenist Apr 2012 #29
since you're going all grammar police, you're wrong about the 2nd comma magical thyme Apr 2012 #14
Good grammar lesson! sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #18
I am glad we are all learning here and having a good time :) snooper2 Apr 2012 #24
'Fellas' is a name. The OP is talking about a friend who has the same opinion. CJCRANE Apr 2012 #25
"Fellas" is a noun in direct address. The comma preceding it is correct. There should also ... 11 Bravo Apr 2012 #27
the thought occurred to me that maybe magical thyme Apr 2012 #3
I hope you're right Magical. I hope that the feds were watching him otherwise, brotherman in on his Ecumenist Apr 2012 #9
Is there going to be an ugly shoot-out? nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #4
I don't think it'll come to that. If anyone shoots anything, it'll be GZ shooting himself in his Ecumenist Apr 2012 #6
Probably. But you know the state attorney that let him go is responsible for all this mess nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #8
They'll have to go get him. He won't turn himself in. Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #10
Really? Peru would put the clown on the first plane back. FSogol Apr 2012 #13
Wow zappaman Apr 2012 #20
That would be the most stupid thing for him to do, and guarantee he would sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #21
Your hopes of being wrong came true! zappaman Apr 2012 #26
So, I've heard and thank God I was wrong. Now, let's see what happens. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #30
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
1. his location is known, i'm pretty darn sure of that.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:51 PM
Apr 2012

there is no basis for the law to go after him as he wasn't charged with anything until today, but there are plenty of private investigators that Could do that.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
5. Nope, I don't think so, I placed the comma where I wanted it to me to emphasise my first thought.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:54 PM
Apr 2012

Thanks...

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. No, I don't think the rules of grammar allow for that..
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:58 PM
Apr 2012

The comma should be after "Fellas", and I believe it's optional to have one after the word "wrong", but somebody can correct me on that

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. Nope, you don't place a comma before a word like "and", "or" or "but".
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

I'm sorry but I wasn't aware that I was in grammar class..

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. We are always learning aren't we?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:07 PM
Apr 2012

My problem is I try to put punctuation where it sounds right instead of what "is" right sometimes LOL

but, we are always learning

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
15. no commas before "and" or "or," but always before "but"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:10 PM
Apr 2012

unless there is a "but" exception that I can't think of.

Doncha just love the online grammar police?!?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. When to Use a Comma before "And"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:13 PM
Apr 2012

Is this not correct?


Two specific situations call for the use of a comma before "and." The first is created when we have three or more items in a series. This mark of punctuation is called the serial comma. For a full explanation of why we use the serial comma, please read our previous tip on the subject. (See "Serial Comma" on p. 49 in our book of writing tips or find the link to the "Serial Comma" tip in our online tip archive.)

The second situation occurs when "and" is being used to coordinate two independent clauses. An independent clause—also known as a main clause—is a group of words that has a subject and a verb and can stand alone as a sentence. In the following example, the independent clauses are in brackets:


[Miguel took piano lessons for sixteen years], and [today he is an accomplished performer].

More---

http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/020204WhenCommaBfAnd.htm

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
19. never say never
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:16 PM
Apr 2012

I shoulda known bettah!

I was thinking of all the times I've seen commas inserted incorrectly into places where they serve no purpose whatsoever except to wreck a sentence.

Yes, independent clauses require commas, as do long lists.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
22. A comma is placed before the word "and" if it is a complete sentence.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:23 PM
Apr 2012

I am very knowledgeable in grammar and punctuation because I was a copy editor for 35 outdoors magazines until 2010.

 

nebenaube

(3,496 posts)
28. um.. that's the "Oxford" comma and it does matter.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:29 PM
Apr 2012

Despite the fact that both ways have been taught in this country.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
29. Um REALLY?? The post was about something IMPORTANT NOT about the ins and outs
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:14 PM
Apr 2012

of grammar and punctuation. THE END. Good grief.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. since you're going all grammar police, you're wrong about the 2nd comma
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:08 PM
Apr 2012

It is not optional. Within the context, there should be 2 commas surrounding what is called a "parenthetical statement." That is a phrase that can be removed, in its entirety, from the sentence without changing the meaning or grammatical correctness of the sentence.

In this case, the parenthetical statement is "and I hope I'm wrong," as in:

I hate to say this Fellas, but I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning"

That said, this is an awkward sentence for punctuation, since you could also separate out "Fellas" as follows:

'I hate to say this, Fellas, and I hope I'm wrong, BUT I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning."

The sentence could have Fellas removed and still be correct:

"I hate to say this, and I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning."

Or both statements removed, as follows:

"I hate to say this, but I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning."


Aren't you glad you turned all grammar cop and all?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Good grammar lesson!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:15 PM
Apr 2012
'I hate to say this, Fellas, and I hope I'm wrong, BUT I just don't see fleetfoot zimmy turning."

The sentence could have Fellas removed and still be correct:


 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
24. I am glad we are all learning here and having a good time :)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:36 PM
Apr 2012

I guess this is officially now a thread hijack?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
25. 'Fellas' is a name. The OP is talking about a friend who has the same opinion.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
Apr 2012

"Fellas and I hope I'm wrong".

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
27. "Fellas" is a noun in direct address. The comma preceding it is correct. There should also ...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 05:53 PM
Apr 2012

be a comma subsequent to "Fellas".

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. the thought occurred to me that maybe
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:53 PM
Apr 2012

he's been under surveillance the whole time he's been in hiding.

He was living at his father's place initially after the murder. Nothing that says he hasn't been watched the whole time.

We'll find out tonight. Maybe the "within 72 hours" was to give them time to arrest him and get him in custody before the announcement. Now that the announcement is set for 6pm, maybe they've already got him safely behind bars somewhere...

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
9. I hope you're right Magical. I hope that the feds were watching him otherwise, brotherman in on his
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:59 PM
Apr 2012

way to Peru to eat Cuy, Lomo Saltido and Cevishe

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
6. I don't think it'll come to that. If anyone shoots anything, it'll be GZ shooting himself in his
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

watermelon head.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
10. They'll have to go get him. He won't turn himself in.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:59 PM
Apr 2012

My guess is that he's shitting himself right now and crying his eyes out on the phone to daddy. Or he's sedated. One or the other, no third choice. He's a coward. And he basically screwed the pooch already with his little disappearing act. As long as he was allowing his attorneys to spin their daily bullshit, he was a guy waiting for the Special Prosecutor to make up her mind. Today, he's a flight risk. I'm sure that when Ms. Corey announced the 72 hour "countdown clock" on her decision, he burrowed in DEEP, whether it's in Peru or in the last state in the country you'd expect to find him. I'm sure Pappy Zim has connections all over the place. It only took a phone call and a plane ticket.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. That would be the most stupid thing for him to do, and guarantee he would
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:18 PM
Apr 2012

get no bail. But since he doesn't have lawyers and hasn't shown himself to be the brightest when it comes to making decisions, it's possible. But sooner or later he would be found, if charged, and would be in jail with no bail not to mention how fleeing would affect his trial.

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