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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Quite frankly, I have no respect for "prominant leftists" who do not win public office.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:28 PM
Sep 2014

Another apt desctiption for them would be "unrealistic whiners".

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. Let them run for and win office.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:30 PM
Sep 2014

Then what they say will actually mean something.

Until then, they remain unrealistic whiners.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
6. I mean
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:37 PM
Sep 2014

Don't you think its a little much to basically be writing off every single one like that? Lots of prominent and influential leftists have historically never held office but still done great things. I dunno, I hope you are just saying this out of anger or something.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. I do not disike the left in general, since I am a leftist.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:40 AM
Sep 2014

I dislike the unrealistic left in general.

This constitutes a large portion of the so-called left because they have no realistic viewpoint on how to implement left policies.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Funny, a lot of people definitely got that you don't like the 'left', which is fine, but the left
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:02 AM
Sep 2014

has been right about just everything over the past 15 years or so. I haven't seen you support much of anything that would be considered 'left' other than the obligatory women/gay/minority issues which is required in order to be accepted as 'left'. The Third Way which is actually Far Right, which wants to stand out by giving itself that title, also 'supports' those issues, but on everything else they are far right.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. So you DO respect prominent leftists like Dennis Kucinich eg? I'm not surprised btw, that you
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:54 AM
Sep 2014

do not respect Leftists. The question is, who do you respect? It's either Leftists, Righties or worse than both, the Third Way?

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
5. The party just keeps sidestepping rightward.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:37 PM
Sep 2014

MLK never held office, so according to some here he was just a whiner. Disgusting. If that is the really the Democratic Party's position, then it's over. Probably just a handful of ignorant bully types spouting off.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
8. I think a handful of Obama worshippers get their shorts in a twist
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:50 PM
Sep 2014

whenever someone on the expresses anything less than blissful worship.

OilemFirchen

(7,140 posts)
19. I threw a big one under the bus,
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:22 AM
Sep 2014

but no one even rubbernecked:

Nat Hentoff

Hentoff was formerly a columnist for Down Beat, The Village Voice, JazzTimes, Legal Times, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The Progressive, Editor & Publisher and Free Inquiry. He was a staff writer for The New Yorker, and his writing has also been published in the New York Times, Jewish World Review, The Atlantic, The New Republic, Commonweal and in the Italian Enciclopedia dello Spettacolo.

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On December 31, 2008, the Village Voice, which had regularly published Hentoff's commentary and criticism for fifty years, announced that he had been laid off.[4] In February 2009, Hentoff joined the libertarian Cato Institute as a senior fellow. In January 2010, however, Hentoff returned and wrote one article for the Voice. Since February 2008 Hentoff has been a weekly contributing columnist at WorldNetDaily.com.

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Hentoff is known as a civil libertarian, free speech activist, anti-death penalty advocate, anti-abortion advocate. He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and is a supporter of Israel.

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Hentoff holds what mainstream media may describe as idiosyncratic views. He espouses generally liberal views on domestic policy and civil liberties, but in the 1980s, he began articulating more socially conservative positions—opposed to abortion, voluntary euthanasia, and the selective medical treatment of severely disabled infants. Hentoff argued that a consistent life ethic should be the viewpoint of a genuine civil libertarian, arguing that all human rights are at risk when the rights of any one group of people are diminished, that human rights are interconnected, and people deny others' human rights at their own peril. After he emerged as an opponent of abortion, several of his colleagues at The Village Voice stopped speaking to him.


Go ahead and defend him, if you choose.
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