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WMDs found in Iraq but does it matter? (Original Post) 3rdwaydem Oct 2014 OP
Only to dummies on the right wing ... JoePhilly Oct 2014 #1
No, There Are Still No WMDs In Iraq spanone Oct 2014 #2
No, it's old news RandiFan1290 Oct 2014 #3
Those were old weapons Politicalboi Oct 2014 #4
No. riqster Oct 2014 #5
Are you serious? This nonsense only matters to right wing ignoramuses. BillZBubb Oct 2014 #6

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Only to dummies on the right wing ...
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

... who don;t know those WMDs were left over from right after Gulf War #1 ... and we gave Saddam those old weapons .... well, when I say "we" I mean Ronald Reagan and Rummy.

spanone

(136,026 posts)
2. No, There Are Still No WMDs In Iraq
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:58 PM
Oct 2014

If you were to read only the headlines, it’d be easy to believe that the Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) has managed to do what the United States failed to over a decade ago: find Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction materials. What you’d miss, however, is the reporting beneath those headlines which explains that the chemicals and uranium that ISIS has seized aren’t just less than weapons-quality, they’re for the most part completely unusable.

Reuters reported on Wednesday that the Iraqi government had informed the United Nations that the terrorist group had seized “nuclear materials” from a university in Mosul, the city that kicked-off its string of military successes in Northern Iraq. In all, the group managed to capture around 88 pounds worth of uranium compounds, according to a letter from Iraq’s U.N. ambassador to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon. A quick search of Twitter on the story finds comments from conservatives convinced that somehow the militants of ISIS had proved that Saddam Hussein was in fact carrying out the nuclear program that the Bush administration used as the first justification for the invasion of Iraq. But it turns out that while the headline reading “Iraq tells U.N. that ‘terrorist groups’ seized nuclear materials” is quite provocative and easily used to slam the Obama administration, the reality of the reporting is much more mundane.

The capture was confirmed on Thursday in a release from the International Atomic Energy Association, which said that the nuclear watchdog is “aware of the notification from Iraq and is in contact to seek further details.” But it turns out that the “uranium compounds” seized are of little to no threat to the general population. Spokesperson Gill Tudor continued on to say that the organization believes “the material involved is low-grade and would not present a significant safety, security or nuclear proliferation risk. Nevertheless, any loss of regulatory control over nuclear and other radioactive materials is a cause for concern.”

When the IAEA says that the uranium captured is “low-grade,” they mean that the radioactive material has not been further enriched to a point that it can be used in a nuclear weapon. While lower enriched uranium can possibly used in a “dirty bomb” — a weapon where conventional explosives are used to spread radioactive material across a wide area — that doesn’t appear to be a concern in this situation either. In a follow-up story, Reuters found the same thing in speaking with Olli Heinonen, a former IAEA chief inspector. “You cannot make a nuclear explosive from this amount, but all uranium compounds are poisonous,” Heinonen told Reuters. “This material is also not ‘good’ enough for a dirty bomb.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/10/3458691/still-no-wmd-iraq/

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Those were old weapons
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 02:09 PM
Oct 2014

NOTHING that would create a "mushroom cloud". Even shit head Bush said there were no WMD's.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. Are you serious? This nonsense only matters to right wing ignoramuses.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 03:22 PM
Oct 2014

Chemical components aren't WMDs. This wasn't the reason given for the disastrous bush invasion of Iraq.

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