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Greenwald: Why Privacy Matters (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 OP
Oh, you are gonna get sooooo stomped Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #1
I don't understand the "Dem" Hatred for Greenwald here... KoKo Oct 2014 #6
They exposed the dirty dealings of the Government Savannahmann Oct 2014 #9
Blammo/ hifiguy Oct 2014 #17
They've made Obama Look Bad. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #11
So if this occurred under the Bush Administration, how does this make the Obama Adminstration? Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #20
In a lot of ways. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #22
If this was not a problem when Bush was in office and being cheered on by Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #24
I sort of wish I understood what you're trying to say in your last sentence. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #25
Is it hard to understand to understand the spy patsy Snowden invaded the Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #26
Greenwald was all the rage with Lib/Dems 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #12
The hatred isn't coming from "Dems" Corruption Inc Oct 2014 #19
I'll just let Cesca speak for me here, and see myself out: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #2
Cesca is a discredited source. grasswire Oct 2014 #5
You cite Mr. Cesca to speak for you ... hmmm 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #8
When you violate privacy, expect to have your privacy violated also. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #3
Yup. 2 sides 1 coin ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #10
Huge K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #4
He's nothing but a liar!!!!1!! DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #7
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #13
kick navarth Oct 2014 #14
I heart Glenn Greenwald. closeupready Oct 2014 #15
K&R. Great Ted talk. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #16
K& R hifiguy Oct 2014 #18
"i have nothing to hide" is white privilege nashville_brook Oct 2014 #21
good point woo me with science Oct 2014 #23

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. I don't understand the "Dem" Hatred for Greenwald here...
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 04:47 PM
Oct 2014

Never have. And, add Snowden "Hate" into it, also.

What have these two ever done to anyone here to cause such outrage? I never hear an answer except a personal attack and jeers about their lifestyle or personalities. No discussion about how they outed the Bush "Patriot Act" & ever more aggressive extensions of our loss of liberties by the NSA.. and both put their life on the line to do it. Laura Poitras and the other wistleblowers before them.



 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. They exposed the dirty dealings of the Government
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:01 PM
Oct 2014

But they did it when a Democrat was in office, and thus affixing blame on the Democrat for eternity in the History books. That is the sin. If they had exposed the programs and a Republican was in office, the users here would march on Oslo demanding Nobel Prizes for the next decade for the two of them. Instead, it's a Democrat who has been tied to it, and they would gladly march the two onto the Gallows and pronounce them traitors for eternity.

Politics over principle. Style over substance. Image over reality. That is the Democratic Party of today. GOTV man. We're team blue and we are awesome.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. Blammo/
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:38 PM
Oct 2014

Obama has left the vast majority of the ChimpCo apparatus spying on average Americans completely untouched and in place. Facts are facts.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. They've made Obama Look Bad.
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:04 PM
Oct 2014

They revealed stuff that the White House didn't want revealed. They made it harder to buy the current Admin's refusal to prosecute war crimes. The Administration wants to hang them; therefore all loyal Democrats are called upon to vilify them.

That's as close to an answer as I can come.

And apparently they have some libertarian connections. Anything a libertarian does is done to injure the nation. Q.E.D.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. So if this occurred under the Bush Administration, how does this make the Obama Adminstration?
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:20 PM
Oct 2014

Oh yea, it was meant to hurt Obama, Libertarian thinks they can crush the Democrats and take over, wont happen with this Democrat.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
22. In a lot of ways.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:22 PM
Oct 2014

The continuation of hostilities, the failure to prosecute war criminals, the effective condonation of torture, the continuation and intensification of surveillance, etc.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. If this was not a problem when Bush was in office and being cheered on by
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 05:41 PM
Oct 2014

Certain people who then had a come to Jesus moment and started cheering the Libertarian candidate and now it is Obama's problem no, some people might believe this snow job but it does not pass the smell test. Privacy has been invaded and those who have invaded privacy continues to lie, change their story wants to whine about their privacy.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. Is it hard to understand to understand the spy patsy Snowden invaded the
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

Privacy of the NSA, spied on the agency, has passed information on to unauthorized receivers, told many different stories about why he did such a deed and he has the nerve or others who cheers him on is concerned about privacy, he has violated my privacy by even saying he could listen to anyone anywhere.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. Greenwald was all the rage with Lib/Dems
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:04 PM
Oct 2014

When he was exposing war crimes, etc. of the Bush cabal.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
19. The hatred isn't coming from "Dems"
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:51 PM
Oct 2014

This place is full of operatives, repukes and sociopaths. They love attacking people rather than issues and playing cop on the internet.

Kudos to you and the few others who do discuss unconstitutional and illegal NSA spying in the faces of our corrupted, brainwashed, propagandized and just plain stupid citizenry.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
8. You cite Mr. Cesca to speak for you ... hmmm
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 04:58 PM
Oct 2014

interesting how Cesca lines up in lockstep to defend the surveillance state at every
turn, as he does here in this article trashing James Risen, on Bill Mayer, for refusing to
disclose his sources.

"Once and For All, There’s No Such Thing as “The War on Whistleblowers” and Here’s Why"
http://thedailybanter.com/2014/10/theres-thing-war-whistleblowers-heres/#rrqlTfaFMdsrRAAt.99

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
7. He's nothing but a liar!!!!1!!
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 04:53 PM
Oct 2014

im not able to provide even a shred of documentation to back my claim, but the exclamations I used tend to indicate that I'm telling the truth, so there's that.

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