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marmar

(77,091 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:26 AM Apr 2012

Students amass mountain of debt as default rates continue to climb


Students amass mountain of debt as default rates continue to climb

By Kim Kozlowski
The Detroit News


Three years after Angie Rider earned undergraduate and graduate degrees at Michigan State University, she has a teaching job that she loves — but also a student loan debt of $100,000.

Rider, 27, a fourth-grade Detroit Public Schools teacher, pays $1,000 a month on her debt, and sees no end in sight. That's why she has delayed buying a home, getting married and starting a family.

"I did the math and it's going to take (decades) to pay it off," said Rider. "It's just crazy. I just feel like it's never going to go away. I get so hopeless."

As spring commencement season begins later this month, more students are graduating with a debt load that's doubled in comparison to a decade ago, as unemployment remains high. ..................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120417/SCHOOLS/204170370#ixzz1sJO9dta7



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Students amass mountain of debt as default rates continue to climb (Original Post) marmar Apr 2012 OP
Might be time to try hyperinflation 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #1
du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2012 #2
And it is not just school loans that are being defaulted on - is anyone keeping tract of other forms jwirr Apr 2012 #3
She is only doing the math now? dkf Apr 2012 #4
umm how does a person get $100 k in debt going to to college for a teaching degree????? nt msongs Apr 2012 #5
It's called grad school.....Try reading a little more. marmar Apr 2012 #6
I thought the way to do that was to go to undergrad and then let the school district pay for your Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #10
graduate degree also Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #7
The next wave. K&R. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #8
She probably should have done the payback calculation before taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #9
$16,666 a year for 6 years = $100K, even excluding interest. If you're paying cost of ed + HiPointDem Apr 2012 #11
That's assuming she did no work at all while in college taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #13
It's not assuming anything, it's just stating how much $100K is divided by six. And the time HiPointDem Apr 2012 #15
The article states she's paying $1,000/mo taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #17
ah, my error then. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #18
$100 grand??? shanti Apr 2012 #12
not just student loans... FirstLight Apr 2012 #14
Wow, MSU is 20K/year for tuition/room/board (instate) aikoaiko Apr 2012 #16
This is why my son joined the AF National guard Marrah_G Apr 2012 #19
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
1. Might be time to try hyperinflation
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

could wipe out a lot of private and publicly held debts that way.

Would be rough on people with a fixed income though . . .

/yeah I know that's not a great solution.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. And it is not just school loans that are being defaulted on - is anyone keeping tract of other forms
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:02 PM
Apr 2012

of personal debt? Quietly - one by one.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
4. She is only doing the math now?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:17 PM
Apr 2012

How crazy is that?

It is so important that people get a good perspective of loans and debt before they incur things. Once it's on your tab it is too late!

This is truly the worst deficiency of our school system.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
10. I thought the way to do that was to go to undergrad and then let the school district pay for your
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:50 PM
Apr 2012

grad and doctorate degrees. That's how my family always did it?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
7. graduate degree also
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:28 PM
Apr 2012

Some educational school systems pay you more for a master's. Maybe it was an undergrad liberal arts/ go on for education degree?

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
8. The next wave. K&R.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:35 PM
Apr 2012

Not educated enough to fill those mythical jobs, but...

Not enough money to pay for educating people to fill them.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
9. She probably should have done the payback calculation before
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:48 PM
Apr 2012

taking on the debt. I want to know how she racked up $100k in debt going to a state school. Even with a graduate degree... it seems impossible.


She should also ammortize the debt over 30 years. If she's paying $1,000 on 100k in debt, she's almost certainly ammortizing the debt over 10 years. There is NO WAY she's paying $1,000/mo and it will take decades to pay off. If she ammortizes over 30 years, at 6.9% (federal loan rates), then her payments can lower to $650/mo.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. $16,666 a year for 6 years = $100K, even excluding interest. If you're paying cost of ed +
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
Apr 2012

living expenses from debt, easy to do.

I don't understand why kids do it, though. Especially for a teaching degree.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
13. That's assuming she did no work at all while in college
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:01 PM
Apr 2012

and ignores the fact that most teachers finish their degree, go to work, and then finish their masters on nights and weekends. This person literally went through college in the most expensive way possible and is seriously miscalculating the amount of time it will take to pay off the loan.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. It's not assuming anything, it's just stating how much $100K is divided by six. And the time
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:08 PM
Apr 2012

it takes her to pay off her loan depends on what she's paying. Which you don't know. If she's making $40K she could be paying $20K a year on it while living like a student.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
17. The article states she's paying $1,000/mo
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:12 PM
Apr 2012

Calculate the payments at 6.9% (federal loan interest rate), 10yr ammortization, and 100k... you get very close to $1,000/mo.

If she simply ammortized over 30 years, at the same interest, her payments would drop to $650/mo.

FirstLight

(13,364 posts)
14. not just student loans...
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

I first read the headline as 'Americans...' I am thinking there's a lot more than just student debt that is being defaulted on left & right...

we are living in a debtor's economy, at what point will it collapse into itself?

aikoaiko

(34,184 posts)
16. Wow, MSU is 20K/year for tuition/room/board (instate)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:12 PM
Apr 2012
http://admissions.msu.edu/finances/tuition.asp

Angie made bad choices and her school probably didn't care much. I don't know what they could have done to prevent her from making that choice.

A good rule of thumb is don't go into debt more than half of your expected first-year's salary. A never ever more than your expected first-year's salary.


Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. This is why my son joined the AF National guard
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:44 PM
Apr 2012

Well, one of the reasons anyway. He will graduate with no student debt. Massachusetts pays tuition and fees, GI bill pays enough to cover dorm and food plan. His younger brother will be doing the same after graduation in May.

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