My theory for those interested

[strawberries]

especially since I have been accused of trolling

Things that will get done that most folks want
1. Keystone pipeline (jobs)
2. support for Israel
3. ISIS, unfortunately boots will be on the ground
4. immigration (build walls along our borders) and let those in the country stay


Apparently the war on women didn't work
Repubs are not going to take away your birth control or abortions clinics, that didn't work

as for the ACA it is here to stay, but does need modification because it is costing some folks lots of money in deductibles. Who knows maybe single payer.

[seabeyond]

1. more than half of the clinics in texas have shut down. you would be wrong. what about your OP is NOT

republican? why wouldnt we think you a troll?

[seabeyond]

5. so you are an obvious troll, admitted troll, that so many have had to deal with, "politely" cause

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we are not allowed to call out.

[strawberries]

6. did you even read what I wrote?

This is time to work together. We all want the same things.
Good Job, food, a house, family, vacation etc

We can get these things if we all work together

just a thought

[seabeyond]

8. no. we do not all want the same and that should be in your face obvious as repugs WORK

at making america poor.

no. we do not all want the same.

and no the repugs obviously have in your face made clear they will not work together.

where the fuck are you coming from. you can say what the fuck you want, but it in no way makes it a fact. look at the facts around you and the last handful of years.

my god. what a post

[roody]

14. Wrong. I want everyone to have

basic human rights: shelter and food.

[cali]

30. bullshit. you want a right wing agenda.

[HERVEPA]

29. Unbelievable that the vote to hide the troll post (calling it what it is) was only hidden 4-3.

[seabeyond]

37. ya know. if they want a di to do this stuff,fine. but keep this democratic

at the least.

[upaloopa]

2. I think you are still a troll

people don't want Keystone and the jobs are in the building probably farmed out to China or somewhere. With oil prices falling it is too costly to take oil from tar sands so maybe there will be no Keystone after all.
Go back to your troll cave.

[strawberries]

4. open your mind

the progressives of yesterday had open minds, willing to educate, damn willing to die for a cause. Brought folks together and didn't separate them.

How good of a progressive are you?

Time to look in the mirror because people are hungry, underemployed, if employed at all. We have almost lost our middle class.
the "it's bush's fault" doesn't fly anymore
actions speak louder than words

[upaloopa]

10. Now there is a stretch. You being the yardstick

Of what is an open mind and who is progressive.
My guess is I am old enough to be your grandfather.
You have the right words but you seem to be mouthing them only.
You are a wolf in sheep skins.

[strawberries]

12. how I wish you could

then my granddaughter would have a great grandfather.

Well I just hope everyone gets back to work and works together.

Those with closed minds can concentrate on 2016. For me I have a list of what I would like to see happen and I'm crossing my fingers that things get done.

[upaloopa]

16. What things? How do you think "good" things

for the middle class will get done by people bought and paid for by the Koch brothers.
I think you have two years to wake up

[strawberries]

19. improvements

within the Economy that people actually feel, not read about

jobs jobs jobs

immigration reform.

There is a war on women and it is basically in the ME
1. let's help them
2. education is the key



No more scare tactics

[upaloopa]

21. Wake the hell up. The right runs the Congress

[cali]

32. there damn fucking well is a war on women here. Yes, it's entirely different

from that in other parts of the world, but the comparison is moronic. Do you believe women should have access to abortion? (of course not, I've read your bullshit) Republican TARP laws have made that impossible for millions of women. Equal pay? Guess what? Repubs don't.

You can take your repuke dogshit elsewhere, hon.

[Dont call me Shirley]

28. Newsflash: Keystone Pipeline is NOT a progressive goal. Clean energy is a progressive goal.

[BillZBubb]

7. Not interested, troll.

[strawberries]

9. and there in lies the problem

Did you enjoy last night? It could have been prevented

[Kelvin Mace]

11. My views

1) Keystone pipeline - Jobs at reduced wages and massive environmental destruction. Lots of on the job deaths and injuries thanks to gutting of OSHA and other regulatory agencies.

2) When did we ever NOT support Israel?

3) War in Iran.

4) Military deployment to borders, more Arizona-like laws at the federal level.

5) Half the number of abortion clinics in the U.S. by 2016. Outlawing of IUDs and oral contraceptives in red states.

6) CIA/NSA unleashed. Torture report sent to a "black site" and never heard from again.

7) Fracking galore!

8) Expanded offshore drilling.

9) Open season on ANWAR

10) ACA starved for funds, then gutted by the courts.

11) More voter ID laws, with the current ones upheld by the Scalia 5.

12) Moves to eliminate overtime pay and the minimum wage.

13) Obama impeachment by end of 2015.

14) Slashing of social programs

15) Partial privatization of Social Security, followed by full privatization when they take the White House in 2016

16) Government shutdown to push extort budget cuts for social welfare.

17) Debt default if the shutdown doesn't get them

18) Economy tanks worse than 2008-2009

19) Massive effort to re-criminalize homosexuality

20) Mass shootings weekly as all gun regulation vanishes.

21) Elimination of all green energy incentives

22) CO2 levels will climb

23) Massive effort to altar science curriculum to strip out anything that contradicts conservative religious/economic orthodoxy

24) Massive effort to restore Christian prayer to schools

25) Massive expansion of privatization in schools, prisons, military and public utiliies.

26) Tiered, pay-to-play internet access

27) Gutting of Consumer Protection Bureau

28) Tax cuts galore

29) Expansion of dark money spending for 2016

30) No judges approved who are not to the right of John Roberts

[cali]

34. +1, Kelvin.

[Dont call me Shirley]

35. Excellent list

31. Women and children once again property of males.

32. Reinstatement if child labor.

[lonestarnot]

13. I don't have time for this, and it appears at first glance that you represent part of the problem.

Goodbye.

[strawberries]

15. good night pleasent dreams and God Bless you

oh and Merry Christmas!

[Cleita]

17. Keystone pipeline will provide 50 jobs in the long run.

That is a fact. Passing the jobs act to repair our infrastructure that President Obama wanted and was rejected by Congresw would have provided millions of jobs long term. That is a fact.

[libtodeath]

18. What is not a theory is that you dont have a fucking clue what you are talking about

have a nice day.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. My theory is that you're a troll and I called it on day one. nt

[seabeyond]

22. me, too. and when you and i agree on a troll, well then....

has to be a real duh to all. ya think? i do. i am pretty obtuse to trolldom. takes a hell of a lot for me. and day one? lol

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Wait, I don't remember you and I disagreeing on anything. The only thing I remember was this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025465274#post14

Which I found confusing becasue I wasn't sure if you thought I was referring to you (which I ccan assure you I was not). or if we were both making fun of the same troll (who is still posting here BTW).

[seabeyond]

24. you know. a funny thing happened on the way to old, and a whole lot of people. lol

regardless the past, whatever it may be cause i do not always remember, or remember often, ..... and me being so disliked by many, lol, and i do not always remember past interactions and i use to be so good at remembering.

i was pretty sure i could joke with you in agreement, though, that this one is a troll. and thank you. for remembering. lol

cheers to you guy.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. Cool. And BTW I ment "thing" not "ting".... I sure wasn't trying out my bad Godfellas type accent.nt

[bullwinkle428]

25. My theory - MIRT apparently didn't complete its job last night.

[JEB]

27. More war, killing of brown people, more pollution and environmental destruction, more austerity.

Greater wealth gap, continued destruction of the lives of working people, continued spying. Bring back torture? Gitmo?

[Dont call me Shirley]

31. News flash: the never ending war on terror is NOT a progressive value. Peaceful endeavors are

a progressive value.

[CrispyQ]

33. I think you turned left when you meant to turn right.

[dballance]

36. No, "Most folks" Don't Want those Things

Most folks don't want the Keystone XL pipeline. It will only provide a bump in jobs during construction. After it's complete there will be fewer than 20 permanent jobs. So no, not jobs there. But, spills in the future that will contaminate neighborhoods, and water supplies.

Most folks are getting pretty sick of Netanyahu and his expanding settlements into territory in violation of international law and UN resolutions. Not to mention the asymmetrical war on the Palestinians.

Most folks don't want boots on the ground for ISIS. We're sick of wars fought for corporations and oil. ISIS poses no threat at all to the US.

Most folks understand that we are a country of immigrants.
(Remember: “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.” )

So when the right gets all up on its high-horse about immigrants it seems to forget that those pasty white old men complaining about undocumented immigrants are all descendants of illegal immigrants. None of them are Native Americans.

[Dont call me Shirley]

38. Newsflash: Reagan singlehandedly ripped down the Berlin Wall. Sarcasm thingy. Division is not a

progressive behavior.

Inclusion is a progressive behavior.

[Dont call me Shirley]

39. Newsflash: Expansional Genocide is not a progressive practice. Making the lives better for your

family, friends and neighbors is a progressive practice.

[nolabels]

41. Surely with oil at $77 a barrel, this is not going to help that pipeline much either

[Dont call me Shirley]

45. Miracles are created

[TBF]

40. "Most republicans want"

There, fixed it for you.

[greatauntoftriplets]

42. Do you honestly believe that Republicans will enact single payer???

[JonLP24]

43. They are certainly trying

I always kept it to myself but felt that using the phrase "war on women" as part of a campaign could be counterproductive but the Republicans discussion on rape were far worse, discussing the probability of becoming from rape with false information, requiring a separate insurance accurately and perfectly described as "rape insurance", "legitimate rape", god intended for the pregnancy from the rape to occur, "some girls rape easy", etc. I don't know how that didn't just kill the party, they went beyond the third rail and stepped in it over and over again and we worry about running people too liberal.

Defunding plan parenthood, opposing abortions in cases of rape which is where all this baffling nonsense came from, oppose the equal pay act, oppose a better system for sexual assault victims in the military, oppose safety nets that would help single mothers. Their platform clearly opposes policies that benefit women.

[Puzzledtraveller]

44. You are right on many points and our refusal to hear this

is costing us. People are easy, money(jobs) not part time jobs, and security, here and abroad.

[ismnotwasm]

46. She or he is on temporary leave.

Can't reply.