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So what is it going to take to get those who didn't vote in 2014 to vote in 2016? (Original Post) upaloopa Nov 2014 OP
A presidential candidate worth supporting FBaggins Nov 2014 #1
Good campaigning. Simple strong message. morningfog Nov 2014 #2
A Presidential Candidate dilby Nov 2014 #3
Something to vote for. nt TBF Nov 2014 #4
A clear reason to vote for something or someone awake Nov 2014 #5
Something better than "Not as bad as the other guy" hobbit709 Nov 2014 #6
Candidates running on LIBERAL POLICIES. TAX the rich. Feed the poor till there are no poor Vincardog Nov 2014 #7
didn't work for Feingold JI7 Nov 2014 #13
Did he run in 2016? Vincardog Nov 2014 #14
he ran in 2010 and lost JI7 Nov 2014 #15
My bad. I thought the thread was about 2016 Vincardog Nov 2014 #21
so you think candidates running as liberals to win didn't apply for 2010 but it will JI7 Nov 2014 #22
I think candidates running as faux conservatives along with GOP Vote suppression tactics Vincardog Nov 2014 #26
Harry Reid won his election ,is it because Reid is more liberal than Feingold ? JI7 Nov 2014 #28
Nebraska is not the whole country. In 2016 the Democrats will be defending 1 Senate seat. The GOP 22 Vincardog Nov 2014 #35
How about a Democratic Party message to the same effect? Forget about "candidates" ... Auggie Nov 2014 #29
Because we're not Canada. bobclark86 Nov 2014 #39
Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #43
but candidates DO matter , look at people voting for Christie, they aren't voting issues when they JI7 Nov 2014 #42
The Democratic Party has allowed the Republican Party to brand them, and it's been a disaster. Auggie Nov 2014 #44
Christie was endorsed by NJ Democratic leadership, and MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #51
why would that matter ? JI7 Nov 2014 #55
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Township75 Nov 2014 #8
A new war and more surveillance state Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #10
A hot redhead with a great figure... Callmecrazy Nov 2014 #11
It comes down to which candidate promises everyone a hot redhead if he's elected. simak Nov 2014 #49
a Presidential Election JI7 Nov 2014 #12
Shouldn't have needed 12 posts to get to the obvious answer. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #16
well JI7 Nov 2014 #23
So true. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #24
I am one who feels you should always vote upaloopa Nov 2014 #25
Those people are usually full of shit. Most ballots have more than just congress on them. arcane1 Nov 2014 #31
I doubt any of them looked at their ballot. upaloopa Nov 2014 #36
Sad but true n/t arcane1 Nov 2014 #37
and it's local issues which are usually bigger during non presidential years JI7 Nov 2014 #41
We need to be more active more often. riqster Nov 2014 #32
Our best shot is the GOP itself Lee-Lee Nov 2014 #17
Activist involvement in the primaries. riqster Nov 2014 #18
A candidate the speaks to the issues of the common people. bravenak Nov 2014 #19
A Democratic party would help. Autumn Nov 2014 #20
Living the two years of Republicans in charge. orpupilofnature57 Nov 2014 #27
Didn't work in 2004. riqster Nov 2014 #30
Well it did in 06, unfortunately " Impeachment isn't on the table " orpupilofnature57 Nov 2014 #47
$ their way or economic depression or default of the U.S. Gov't due to GOP shutdown ffr Nov 2014 #33
Candidate who will stand up for their party and what they believe in liberal N proud Nov 2014 #34
I just read through the comments. My answer is a damned good depression. One that includes jwirr Nov 2014 #38
Some will turn out just because it's a presidential election, but 2016 is gonna be very tough HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #40
An economic collapse and a decent candidate. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #45
better product frylock Nov 2014 #46
A guy they'd like to have a beer with, LadyHawkAZ Nov 2014 #48
I don't care if the candidate of purest credentials is found, Skidmore Nov 2014 #50
Like this hasn't been discussed 93,502 before? Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #52
Seriously I posted my OP to show that upaloopa Nov 2014 #54
I was specific. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #58
Whatever upaloopa Nov 2014 #62
Speaking of whining . . . Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #64
More centrist policies! vi5 Nov 2014 #53
Promote Democratic candidates as good candidates despite their imperfections FSogol Nov 2014 #56
It would be helpful if THE CANDIDATES themselves did that LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #60
America is a diverse place. In Montana guns aren't a major problem. Why should a FSogol Nov 2014 #63
No where did I suggest Democrats "be bound to the same rigid platform" LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #65
Moving to the right worked ever so well in 2014..let's do more of it! Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #57
Democratic candidates that speak proudly and loudly LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #59
man if this group of repugs doesn't get you involved okieinpain Nov 2014 #61

JI7

(89,322 posts)
22. so you think candidates running as liberals to win didn't apply for 2010 but it will
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:41 PM
Nov 2014

for 2016 ?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
26. I think candidates running as faux conservatives along with GOP Vote suppression tactics
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nov 2014

suppressed the number didn't voters in 2014. I think the Democratic party needs a coherent liberal agenda to win the vote in 2016.

JI7

(89,322 posts)
28. Harry Reid won his election ,is it because Reid is more liberal than Feingold ?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:50 PM
Nov 2014

and Reid was up against a lot more with the amount of attacks against him which was national.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
35. Nebraska is not the whole country. In 2016 the Democrats will be defending 1 Senate seat. The GOP 22
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

It will be another election.

Auggie

(31,272 posts)
29. How about a Democratic Party message to the same effect? Forget about "candidates" ...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:51 PM
Nov 2014

I want a national PR and advertising campaign, running in key states on TV, radio and across the web, reminding people about our party accomplishments and our root beliefs, and I want it to be fun to watch, memorable, hard-hitting, and present relevent benefits over the crap Republicans and their corporate masters spew.

It's not like I'm asking for a lot ...

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
39. Because we're not Canada.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:12 PM
Nov 2014

We judge people based on what they say and do, not by what letter follows their name.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
43. Heh.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:29 PM
Nov 2014

There are plenty of people, both on this board and across the country, who do simply look at the letter following the name. Try telling the ones on here that you vote based on the person, rather than simply the fact that they're a Democrat, and you'll get all sorts of insults and told you 'don't matter'.

JI7

(89,322 posts)
42. but candidates DO matter , look at people voting for Christie, they aren't voting issues when they
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:45 PM
Nov 2014

vote for him. many blue states are willing to vote for republicans if they like them as long as they don't scare them with too much religious talk and other right wing things that usually turn them off.

Auggie

(31,272 posts)
44. The Democratic Party has allowed the Republican Party to brand them, and it's been a disaster.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:03 PM
Nov 2014

We need a unifying message and candidates savvy enough to sell it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
51. Christie was endorsed by NJ Democratic leadership, and
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 08:29 AM
Nov 2014

tacitly endorsed by President Obama when he refused to endorse the opposing Democrat.

Township75

(3,535 posts)
8. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

And there will be plenty more of it in 2016.

Plus a candidate with the WOW-factor, Piz-azz, SPARK!

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
9. A new war and more surveillance state
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014

with all candidates on the ballot - both parties - behind it

that will surely bring everyone out of the woodwork to grant democratic legitimacy to our loving overlords, the corporate regime

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

 

simak

(116 posts)
49. It comes down to which candidate promises everyone a hot redhead if he's elected.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:31 AM
Nov 2014

You can probably find a candidate who'll promise it, but I wouldn't count on him delivering...

JI7

(89,322 posts)
23. well
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:42 PM
Nov 2014

it's nice for some to believe if only the candidate/party would do as they demand all would be well.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
25. I am one who feels you should always vote
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:47 PM
Nov 2014

but I am told that folks didn't vote in 2014 because there was nothing worth voting for. I was hoping those who say that would have some specifics that they would like to see in 2016. So far all there is are generalities here.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
31. Those people are usually full of shit. Most ballots have more than just congress on them.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:52 PM
Nov 2014

Mine was 4 freakin' pages, and only ONE vote for my House rep. Everything else was state and local stuff, nearly all of which was worth voting for.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
36. I doubt any of them looked at their ballot.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

My guess is they didn't bother to vote and after the fact they came up with a justification for it.

JI7

(89,322 posts)
41. and it's local issues which are usually bigger during non presidential years
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:31 PM
Nov 2014

and even in other years.

when people complain about some congress member from some state and area they are not from and demand the "party" do this or that it's hilarious. especially when they bring up national approvals for congress as a whole.

they need to check out the district and what that area is like, what kind of jobs, schools, demographics etc and it will not be too much of a surprise why certain people get elected.

many times it's about a reliable member who isa ble to bring in funding for something that is important to the area.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
17. Our best shot is the GOP itself
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:37 PM
Nov 2014

Let them cut, cut, cut until everyone hurts.

That will push people to turn out, when it actually affects them.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
18. Activist involvement in the primaries.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:38 PM
Nov 2014

If we want better candidates we will have to find them. We sure as hell can't count on party bosses to give us people we want to vote for.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. A candidate the speaks to the issues of the common people.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:38 PM
Nov 2014

And we must show a clear difference between the parties and fight for the votes. We must make sure the base doesn't get left behind in order to get conservative votes. We must realize that if our own base is not excited, then we won't draw votes from moderates or anyone else.
We must stop pretending not to be democrats and stop bring scared of speaking up on issues. We must figure out what our voters want from tge party.
We must increase our numbers. Yes, we must reach out to the youth, minorities, women, lgbt, and do things to increase votes from that group. We have to listen to new ideas and discuss them.
We must work to put measures on ballots on every state we can to draw more voters t the polls. And yes, i mean pot, minimum wage, sentencing reductions, decriminilization of small amounts of drugs, things of that nature.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
30. Didn't work in 2004.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:52 PM
Nov 2014

Yeah. They stole it, but we could have won it with turnout.

Just having Teapubbies in charge isn't enough.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
47. Well it did in 06, unfortunately " Impeachment isn't on the table "
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:10 AM
Nov 2014

was the end of Dem's and Rep's hashing out Our Democracy, and started Their political SOCIETY .

ffr

(22,689 posts)
33. $ their way or economic depression or default of the U.S. Gov't due to GOP shutdown
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:54 PM
Nov 2014

or world war. Those would be on the top of my list.

liberal N proud

(60,362 posts)
34. Candidate who will stand up for their party and what they believe in
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:57 PM
Nov 2014

Not some wuss, who says don't campaign with me Mr. President, Wait until after the election to make that decision.

It will take candidates who are not afraid to say who or what the support just because some right wing pundit is challenging them or calling them out for it.

Voters want commitment from their candidates, they are not getting that.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
38. I just read through the comments. My answer is a damned good depression. One that includes
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:06 PM
Nov 2014

all of those who do not think there is a reason to vote.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
40. Some will turn out just because it's a presidential election, but 2016 is gonna be very tough
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:18 PM
Nov 2014

I'm in my 7th decade and in that time only once has a party gone three presidential elections in a row.

To win will take something pretty special...like an on-going agenda that needs political continuity or someone who has incredible popular appeal. Which is just what is needed to get people out.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
45. An economic collapse and a decent candidate.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:38 PM
Nov 2014

There are 2 main groups of non-voters; the discouraged cynics who think their vote doesn't matter, and the willfully ignorant who "are not interested in politics".

The good candidate will get the former out, the latter are a lost cause barring a complete economic collapse because they are very simple, concrete thinkers who are cognitively incapable of connecting political stuff with their everyday lives. To the willfully ignorant things the government does "just happen, as if they were a force of nature.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
48. A guy they'd like to have a beer with,
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:21 AM
Nov 2014

photogenic, charismatic and able to spit 15 second bumper-sticker sound bites on command.

AKA "a real candidate, someone to vote for, and a strong unifying message"

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
50. I don't care if the candidate of purest credentials is found,
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:34 AM
Nov 2014

the fact remains that they are about to seat the most awful of Congresses because of they could not get themselves out to vote. The power of the people rests with the Congress.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
52. Like this hasn't been discussed 93,502 before?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 08:38 AM
Nov 2014

People will vote when they have something to vote FOR. Give them milquetoast and they'll sit home and watch reruns. It's not that difficult of a concept. Seriously.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
54. Seriously I posted my OP to show that
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:03 PM
Nov 2014

no one can say anything specific just like the excuse for not voting is not specific. Just a lazy whine I'd say. You are not to be taken seriously unless you get specific and get proactive and do something rather than put me down!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
62. Whatever
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:27 PM
Nov 2014

I guess we will see in 2016 if enough people feel there is something to vote for.
But until then we will have to listen to all the whining!
I don't buy any of their bull shit excuses.
They are too fucking lazy to vote even in local issues and instead of standing up and taking redponcibility for their decision and our loss they blame it on nothing to vote for and that they don't believe in voting for the lesser of two evils. They won't vote in 2016 either. And we will hear the same lame excuses. Pathetic!

FSogol

(45,631 posts)
56. Promote Democratic candidates as good candidates despite their imperfections
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:38 PM
Nov 2014

after the primaries are settled. Someone who votes with you 80% of the time is a good candidate and not the lesser of two evils. Point out that the parties are not the same. Show how they are different. Talk up candidates and policies and get people excited.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
60. It would be helpful if THE CANDIDATES themselves did that
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:11 PM
Nov 2014

instead of basically refusing to say which party they belong to and making believe they loves them some guns, coal, and the bible.

FSogol

(45,631 posts)
63. America is a diverse place. In Montana guns aren't a major problem. Why should a
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:37 PM
Nov 2014

Montana Democrat have to be bound to the same rigid platform that a Democrat in the south side of Chicago?

We need to have space in our tent for minor differences.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
65. No where did I suggest Democrats "be bound to the same rigid platform"
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

To reiterate, I said Democrats needed to loudly and proudly say what they DID stand for. Instead, in this last cycle we got a heap of Democrats playing "Me Too!"

Republican: "I like coal!"
Democrat: "Me too!"
Republican: "I like guns"
Democrat: "Me too"

And so on.

Compare and contrast to this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025839789

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
59. Democratic candidates that speak proudly and loudly
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:54 PM
Nov 2014

about what they stand for and what the Democratic Party has achieved, not milquetoasting around and trying to appeal to the right wing.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
61. man if this group of repugs doesn't get you involved
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:14 PM
Nov 2014

I might as well start looking into going back to africa. LOL.

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