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48% in poll do not want President to issue executive order? (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2014 OP
You know that, do you? brooklynite Nov 2014 #1
And some polls are used to manipulate public opinion... kentuck Nov 2014 #6
I heard the same things here about the midterm polls. DesMoinesDem Nov 2014 #11
True but... kentuck Nov 2014 #13
So TPTB want to manipulate opinion in support of the President's actions on immigration? brooklynite Nov 2014 #20
A lot more than that were opposed to the Civil Rights Act. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #2
Only 1/3 of the people favored the American Revolution. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #3
I fully believe the immigration numbers. vi5 Nov 2014 #4
What percentage of BBT watchers want their show pre-empted tonight. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #5
Tough shit to those that have a problem with this. Did they have a problem when Raygun did it? How still_one Nov 2014 #7
that is why it is called leadership nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #8
When you taper your polls to diminish the input of those who support the President, mfcorey1 Nov 2014 #9
IOWs ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #10
BINGO!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #12
I was initially going to put the percentage at ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #14
and I find you to be one of the more astute posters at DU! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #15
But I've been told ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #24
and you think I haven't!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #25
Whoop, there it is! They loved when Saint Raygun did it. But not the black Muslim Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #26
Rule by poll AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #16
Sort of like... kentuck Nov 2014 #18
It seems so AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #23
And why not ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #27
Poll numbers change with the prevailing winds AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #30
Again, Why? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #31
If you believe the government should be run that way AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #32
I think you have misunderstood my position ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #33
Who cares? Arkana Nov 2014 #17
I wonder what % of American Latino voters are in favor of it. . . B Calm Nov 2014 #19
answer here - sort of B2G Nov 2014 #21
Lesson # 1... kentuck Nov 2014 #22
And, if the poll is anywhere near close to reality... GoCubsGo Nov 2014 #36
Only one third voted so I doubt they care about upaloopa Nov 2014 #28
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #29
And what did the other 52% want? kydo Nov 2014 #34
they oppose it because it's not liberal enough JI7 Nov 2014 #35
Americans just voted in a conservative Congress and now they want liberal immigration reform? davidn3600 Nov 2014 #37
Simple question - were there any polls for any of Bush's Executive malaise Nov 2014 #38

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
1. You know that, do you?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:51 PM
Nov 2014

I don't generally like to presume that people aren't intelligent because they don't agree with me.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
6. And some polls are used to manipulate public opinion...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:55 PM
Nov 2014

And are paid for by the folks that want certain results.

I'm sorry I did make my post more clear...

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
11. I heard the same things here about the midterm polls.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:58 PM
Nov 2014

Allison Grimes is going to win. The polls are wrong!

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
13. True but...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014

It is easier to poll a political race than it is a complicated issue, like immigration or KXL pipeline. In my opinion, it is like apples and oranges. Sort of like saying 54% of people prefer papaya pie for Thanksgiving.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
20. So TPTB want to manipulate opinion in support of the President's actions on immigration?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:24 PM
Nov 2014

Same poll, same sponsor

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
3. Only 1/3 of the people favored the American Revolution.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

The other 2/3 were divided between timid compromisers (like half the Democratic Party) and boot-licking royalist trash like our Republican pestilence today.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
4. I fully believe the immigration numbers.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

I come from a family of old school Democrats, who still are and who still vote Democratic and a lot of them are against an exec order granting amnesty. They are o.k. with changing the path to citizenship and sorting the current methods out. But they're not in favor of just granting blanket amnesty to currently illegal actions unless it's tied to some sort of family issue (kids born here, not separating young siblings, etc.).

I don't agree with them but I also can understand that it's not simply a black and white issue with a lot of people and they do have a slightly more nuanced view than just "No".

I agree about Keystone though, I don't think anyone knows anything about that other than hearing the "jobs!" mantra repeated by the media and the proponents of it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. What percentage of BBT watchers want their show pre-empted tonight.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

That is the serious question of the day that must be addressed!!!!! Probably a question no one here wants to see the answer to either.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
7. Tough shit to those that have a problem with this. Did they have a problem when Raygun did it? How
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:56 PM
Nov 2014

about after the BP oil disaster in the Gulf, which ruined a lot of their fishing industry?

Your last comment is beautiful and so right!!!

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
9. When you taper your polls to diminish the input of those who support the President,
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:57 PM
Nov 2014

these are the results you get.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
10. IOWs ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:58 PM
Nov 2014

On the immigration question, 48% want something done ... they just don't want the Black guy to do it!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. I was initially going to put the percentage at ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:11 PM
Nov 2014

42%, as I'm pretty sure the poll captured a few republicans that don't want any action, regardless of who does it

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
26. Whoop, there it is! They loved when Saint Raygun did it. But not the black Muslim
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:38 PM
Nov 2014

from Kenya in the White House!

The double standards illustrated even in this thread is quite telling!

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
18. Sort of like...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:22 PM
Nov 2014

63% of Americans do not think we should spend more on education?

38% believe science is a hoax.

And we want our legislators to make decisions from these polls?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
23. It seems so
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:36 PM
Nov 2014

It seems that our politicians are swayed by the poll of the moment. Our politicians react to tabloid sensation, and legislate accordingly. The McDonaldsization of our Democracy.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. And why not ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

the American people are so swayed ... and we are the ones putting the politicians in office.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
30. Poll numbers change with the prevailing winds
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

Politicians who are swayed by ever changing poll numbers don't really believe in anything. Republicans are a perfect example of it, making laws in reaction to sensational crimes, etc. Our politicians should be swayed by their core beliefs, rather than just twisting and turning in the winds based on whatever is on the cover of the National Enquirer this week.

Tabloid government is dysfunctional government.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. Again, Why? ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 03:20 PM
Nov 2014

when those that put them in office are swayed by the latest headline, news clip, or sound-byte.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. I think you have misunderstood my position ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nov 2014

I am not saying this is how government should be run - I see it as a big problem - but the problem is these elected officials are just like the people that put them in office.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
17. Who cares?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:18 PM
Nov 2014

This is one of those issues where I don't give a shit what the majority wants. This is the RIGHT thing to do, and it should be done, and I applaud the President for doing it.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
21. answer here - sort of
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:28 PM
Nov 2014

Latinos are divided, with 43 percent supporting the action and 37 percent opposing it. But the sample size here is small (just 110 Latino respondents), so the numbers have a high margin of error.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-nearly-half-oppose-executive-action-immigration-n251631

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
22. Lesson # 1...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:33 PM
Nov 2014

Don't take everything at face value. Question authority. Don't accept shit as gospel.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
36. And, if the poll is anywhere near close to reality...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 05:59 PM
Nov 2014

...that may be the problem--too many people accepting shit as gospel. There are loads and loads of low-information citizens out there, who believe everything they hear on the TV "news" shows.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. Only one third voted so I doubt they care about
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

anything other than what the Kardashians are wearing.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
37. Americans just voted in a conservative Congress and now they want liberal immigration reform?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:03 PM
Nov 2014

I don't think so.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
38. Simple question - were there any polls for any of Bush's Executive
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:04 PM
Nov 2014

Orders.
I'm betting the morons don't even know what is an Executive Order.

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